stevebrum

And still wouldn’t have enough riders unless the standard is a hybrid of CL and NL.

Exactly. This there is an abundance of riders attitude is just nonsense.

What about cooked ones?

As stated above the CL has used 108 riders riders this year for the 77 CL team places such has been the turnover of riders, some not even of a CL standard. I’ve already broken down the figures of riders used in both leagues above.

What part of 126 riders are required for the 18 teams don’t you understand? I fully agree any middle tier league should have at least one NL rider at reserve If not two However signs aren’t great as the CL have had several youngsters pull out the league citing confidence issues as well as promising riders like Zach at Birmingham and Swindon retire plus promising youngster Jack Parkinson Blackburn also lost to the sport. As already stated you will loss another 18 ‘top flight riders’ to one big league as well as those retiring. you seem to be advocating a stronger NL standard league which will as good as kill the UK league for good. There is living within its means (another thing we agree on) and ensuring the sport league loses total meaning in the UK.

How behind the times are you? If you wanted to follow Charles Wright on Twitter ....... that’s his profile.

James has never been crowned champion

Charles Twitter handle

Typical of Nick to help another team condemn his own.

Surprising result with the Aces helping to cement a top 3 place. Good to see Morris getting double figures.

The expected result, no surprises,

Reported.

I did it at the start of the season and there was nearly 30 riders short to complete all teams. 126 riders for all 18 teams. 77 for the Championship (which has now used a total of 108 riders so far includes some clearly not CL standard and released as such) 49 for the Premiership (only 18 top flight flight only) The total gives 126 if all teams come back to the table. However you can take out 18 of those If it’s an agreed lower standard so already you can see you are nearly 3 teams of riders short. Given the best case scenario of all 126 riders wanting to be back next season it would be near impossible to ensure a points limit that suits all teams and all riders getting a team place. So again very unlikely. Only unless team numbers are reduced to 6 per team would that be possible. There haven’t been enough of the right standard riders to fill one big league for several seasons despite many stating it’s what we need.

Superb call from the ref that night.

Be no Smethwick accent to my knowledge. But tons of Wolverhampton ones and maybe a Bruumie one

Yes I agree. I think we owned a fair chunk of that 2nd bend that night.

And I’ve provided the facts based on this years 2 league structure. There isn’t enough unless you use riders from the NL, and as evidenced this year alone some are already out their depth and have asked to be dropped. If you could provide me with facts that there are enough riders from this year to fill all teams next season then go ahead. There isn’t an abundance of riders wanting to ride here and those that do (eg Tobias Thomsen at Birmingham) some are out of their depth. Plus you have to factor in those riders who can’t make one league pay (the excuse that’s often pedalled out for reason why the double up) to retirement I ask you again - where are all these riders please?

Under the current format it wouldn’t work with the current amount of teams as there aren’t enough riders to fill all teams. would need a radical rethink, 6 man teams would still be a push. Sadly the days of a strong top flight league look to be numbered. However can see more clubs closing and riders retiring because they can’t make the new structure work or pay.

Think it’s fair to say that Hancock and Woffy are guaranteed 2 picks. Don’t think Lambert will get in yet, a season too soon I reckon but Fricke maybe so. Although it could depend who misses out from the top 8 too.

It was hardly stronger 2 seasons ago.

I was referring to the Wolves riders and crew who were all booked in. I had a tip off so booked as well!

Stopped at the Premier Inn across the road from the track the night we won the league there in 2009. What a noisey and wild night that was. Great memories.

Wright or rong?

Still applies. Glasgow last week refused Victor Palovaara to sign for another club on loan stating it must be a sale.