dontforgetthefueltapsbruv

Hopefully Lakeside will give Adam the same sort of assistance that they undoubtably will be to Bech. I certainly would like to see him back at Foxhall. There is a spark of something extra in Adam that not everyone has . Where that exists in a youngster British Speedway must nuture that if it is to have any chance of regaining a position higher up the world pecking order.

It must be easy to reassess the conversion rate. There were plenty of d/u last year so it would be a good sample size. Total up all the scores in both leagues and find an average average and see what the real ratio is. The biggest problem is having the correct info.

The way I see it is so long as he maintains a PL average any rider can continue evrn if it was the full 12. If he had a year out then if would be reassessed against the EL average and anything above 7.2 would prevent re entry to the PL under the current conversion rate. Technically it could be possible to average less in the PL than the EL.

On a more positive note I heard yesterrday that Leigh had a check up on his shoulder and although there is still some tendon damage at least there is no need to operate. Intensive physio require until tge New Year and he hopes to be back in a Witches racesuit in 2014.

So it looks like Somerset home and away once a month this year for the Witches!!

Given that the points limit effectively fell by 10% just add 10% to any 2013 average for a redeclared rider.

thanks to the abbott via the Newcastle thread - issue 38 of the averages S Worrall (in Recar) - 3.00 I say tell them to take their league place and put it where the sun dont shine!!

thanks for that - I missed that issue!!

I had assumed Steve Worralls average had dropped to 3 but his outgoing aveage shows as 4.24 on BSPA site. The sample size reduced through the year so it will have altered. Anyone know what it is officially and if so what it is? or dividedby 0.60 - take your pick!

Just checked and his outgoing average does show as 4.24! May be different now though as the number of matches used fir the rolling averages was reduced through the season gradually from 36 to 24 by the Sept set. He would therefore have dropped some 2012 matches meaning his 2013 zeros would have a bigger impact!! No idea what his average actually is now though!! Edit Not sure how many of his 2013 matches were PL rather than LC (which dont count) Clear as mud!!

No need to apologise. Certain usernames soon ring alarm bells after a while. Have your salt pot ready to take a pinch with most of their posts!

99.9% that it is a 3. He may have started last year on that sort of average but it went downhill after a string of noughts.

Definitely not! If there has to be additional fixtures they must not be from the same LC group.

you need to put the book 'How to decipher sarcasm' on your Christmas list!

So you could get the situation of 2 sides meeting in LC PL1 PL2 Koc LCF and play offs which would be about 1 in every 4 meetings.

Had the set up enabled us to track Cam and Rohan at reserve then it may have been a different story. The changes announced simply dont suit how we are currently positioned. we wouldve missed you too much!! Besides if you remove that all important piece the whole tower falls!! (see what I did there!!)

Cam and Rohan must be in the line up however it is put together. They could/should both be 8 point plus next year. The big advantage of looking to go with a No1 like Worrall would be that it would take some pressure off them moving up to that spot if they achieve that.

They would be excellent choices IMO. Richie is only going one way and Steve seemed to get his mojo back at the end of the season. I also like the idea of a core of Brits if possible.

The bottom 3 in the quoted line up are! 3 3 and 3.52 I believe.

Youre right because they wont ride against the No1 in any of their heats!!

just worked out that only 4.70 left with Worrall in and Ben/Morten out so to bring in one of those two would also need Jacobs/Schramm in for Hawkins. Or Ben/Morten/Ritchie out R Worrall/Sneddon/S Worrall in.

Ben 8.44 and Morten 6.90 out Wells 7.81 and Sneddon 5.52 in Wells Lanham Tungate Heeps Sneddon Ellis Hawkins 42.49 (I think!!)

Why would they be banished back to the NL? I wouldnt be surprised to see all 20 allocated to be in PL sides anyway and the A grade riders wont bein the NL at all. I think the biggest problem will be when an A grade is injured- do you allow the other A graders to guest or do you promote from further down the list? The first option defeats the development ethos and the second severely weakens the affected team.

My doubts are based on what the riders will actually gain from this. If the likes of Newman Howarth andGarrity are in the allocation what will they learn? They are already PL 2nd strings and will now be getting additional races at the equivalent of NL heat 13 PL heat 2 and PL heat 8. The likes of Ellis Nielsen Blackbird are not too far off the same position. These will be looking to push for PL heat leader positions and aiming for PL heat 15 which would offer them better experience. The ring fencing of heats will do little for their development IMO.

Especially as they would run PL. Why would they want to buy Andersen Bjerre Batchelor etc and half a dozen poles.