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Was impressed with Georgie Wood on the two televised meetings seen him against Leicester. I hope he makes it to the top. - seems to have a good attitude.

Your right baldyman, you only need to think of F1 and MotoGp to know the green light is effective. Added to that is the transponder which detects movement. I dont know whether a transponder will work for speedway. F1 and MotoGP etc have concrete base to work from, the machines dont chew up the track likw speedway does. So whether technically a transponder could be used I dont know. Maybe a green light with a electronic beam across the track would - dont know if any trials have been done. But the starting tape fiasco is just one that needs sorting, bring speedway into the 21st Century with other things too.

During the GP 11 meetings so far I have been noting WARNINGS given to riders for start infringements - all but Krsko,Warsaw (didnt keep a record), and Teterow (cant find sheet) Krsko Warsaw Daugavpils 2 (ht 6, 12) Prague 4 (ht 3, 13, 20, Final) Horsens 2 (ht 2, 15) Cardiff 5 (ht 1, 6, 8, 15, Final) Malila 2 (ht 2, 10) Gorzow 0 Teterow Stockholm 6 (ht 2, 3, 7, 7, 12, 12) Torun 2 (ht 4, Final) Most common offender - Kildemand, Pawlicki, NKI, and Doyle No one seems to have faulted again in a meeting. Doesnt include those who broke the tapes - but the race has to be stopped anyway. What those figures dont show (for obvious reasons) are the number of times races are restarted because of first bend incidents.

and do you think fans will be happy not knowing who has won a race/team points until the ref makes a decision. And judging by comments on BSF most refs dont make the correct decisions now never mind when all these scenarios have to be judged. Nonsense, complete nonsense.

Why does it seem to be in the early heats?? 1) Tracks are not race tracks in early heats, more follow the leader, meaning rider needs to get into first corner in front to stand a chance of winning. 2) We all virtually agree this years series of GPs have been the toughest in recent years. The riders know that, so they need to get one over their competitor very early in the race ie the start

Getting flyers is not going when the tapes go, its going BEFORE the tapes do. Not acceptable, its going back to the 70's when Mauger, Olsen and more ruled the roost. Transponders would be ok but maybe not practical on a speedway track. A beam in front and at the rear of the riders. Any movement before the light that would break the beam means they out. 30secs/1minute not required if riders cant get attention on the track, its straight round.

No, no, no, much too subjective, all sorts of arguments will follow. Put the offender on a warning as now, but bring the riders straight back to the tapes, no pit gate open, no mechanics fiddling with bikes.....just get them straight back......keep it simple

At least 1,2,3 on the night got proper trophys

So, Lebedev, Milik and Laguta all in heat 2 - pity that, bit later on in the meeting when the track has settled would have been nice.

Housing complex on what was Ellesmere Port speedway is well on the way to completion.

Thanks

Im confused. Are we talking about meeting reserve - you know, the one that stands in once a meeting has started for tape exclusions and a rider getting injured during the meeting, No's 17,18 or we talking about the 3 series reserves picked at the beginning of the year to replace riders who get injured during the season and have to miss a GP or GPs. In the situation of Aussie GP we surely must be talking about the 3 series reserves which were I think Kildemand, Fricke and Smolinski. Another was needed and they put Milik in. We at the situation because of Fricke a replacement for him will need to be in - that should be Milik or another nominated...... but not one of the 2 meeting reserves (17,18)

Interesting

Somewhere in my mind I understood Milik would not get a ride at Aussie GP. That was because NKI was back riding, So as Milik was 3rd reserve he would miss out. Now with Fricke out that gives Milik a go again. Cant be bad.

Can BV afford the likes of Zagar if, as the rumour I heard, he was on £5k a meeting????????????

Is S Worell out of favour, seems most predictions dont mention him ???

If that meeting was fixed last night I would be surprised that the score line went as it did. If fixed, I would suggest the home team would have lost by say 2 or 4 at home, and 10-12 away - more plausible then a 26 point home loss as it was. Relegation/Promotion should be done as in football - (but only) the top team goes up and the bottom team goes down. Its logical that a team going up would have to strengthen for a year in Premiership, that they would do between seasons. Having a straight play off at the end of a season, for it to be any sort of a great meeting (great enough to be televised) then the Premier league team would have to be really naff, and the Champions league team something really special for it to be a real success with real meaning. Clearly that wasn't so. Long time since I seen the Sheffield track (albeit on tv) and it look good and could produce good racing I'm sure, but for TV viewing, that was really poor last night, and there is a thought generally that "what you see last you remember first", well if that statement be true when BT comes to decide whether they take on British speedway in 2018 then I fear there will be no contract. And that's another reason I cant see last night was fixed, surely riders and promotors would know that TV companies need to show a good spectacle to keep viewers paying for the service. Another reason I don't think the meeting would have been fixed is that riders earn their money by scoring points. So who is saying Sheffield riders last night didn't want to earn a good wage last night? Or they had their wages made up? - if so by whom. Which promotor has enough money to just pay out quiet a sum of money to lose a much? Apart from anything else, if true, match fixing on the scale it was last night would be truly a serious offence liable for a big punishment. Just my thoughts.

Good to hear there are so many training tracks about.

So, does ANYBODY know for a fact .... 1) he qualified from a meeting where it was declared that a rider would get first reserve at the Aussie 2017 GP or 2) he qualified by virtue of retiring and the Aussies thought it would be "nice" to make Aussie GP 2017 his final meeting.

Its an "Ouch" from me.

OK, if Davy Watt qualified then fair do.

I dont know Davy Watts or what he has done in his speedway career, and I suppose there is no harm in him being meeting reserve. But I do think that having a youngster in that spot (maybe Morris/Kurtz) would be an opportunity to let them soak up the atmosphere of a home GP from the pit perspective - after all, they are likely to be there one day whilst the likes of a Davy Watt is not. And any case, if Austrailian speedway wanted to celebrat his riding career then shouldnt that be done at an Australian level and not a world level. Just my opinions.

O dear, that's not so good news then.. Unless there is another reason for his relatively poor form. His pass on Kildemand in Stockholm was brilliant, he did a v.good pass last night. But overall he is lack lustre. ANd last week in Pardubice he didn't make the final, which he won last year. Re Max Fricke - he was unconscious, I have no doubt about that, and IMO in that state while he was still being thrown about according to video clips I seen. Best thing was done - withdraw him from the meeting. Hope he is there in Aussie for the next GP. Re trophies, when I saw the first one being carried to the podium I thought "that's a proper trophy". But then I realised what it was and changed my mind quickly - they were as bad as the 4 different coloured piano keys we seen too much of this year. I know TW got criticised for giving away his 2016 WTC medal to a young girl, and believe he threw his Prem League runner up medal into the BV crowd, but more then likely a lot of riders probably don't display them, some riders probably win all sorts as they rising up the success ladder that it would take massive amount of room to display them. Make it a proper cup, or glass trophy (if say in Czech etc) for the winner, medals for 2nd/3rd in the GPs, and a trophy each for 1,2,3 in the world championship at the end of the year.

Another good meeting, but lacking some sparkle that has been present at some other GPs this year. Obviously Doyle was looking after himself, but by doing so probably made it hard work, some of his races were tough. TW very much in with a chance of a medal at the end of the Aussie GP, Janowski has blown it. I reckon FL will be kicking himself - a chance of 2nd or 3rd in the world missed. He will remember 2017 as the year he won the PLRC, lost a league winners medal, but by far the worst - he lost a chance of 2nd or 3rd in the world. That chance may have gone now, unless he can really put it together next year. Lindback fizzle has gone out, such an exciting rider when riding well, just ordainary when he is off the boil. Maybe the last time we see him in the GPs. I reckon Piotr Pawlicki will be well gutted, he drops out of the GP, and his brother comes in. AArgh! Emil, whats wrong with him, not gating well, off the pace more times then he is on it. He says he having engine problems. Well do what others do, change engine tuners. Roll on the final GP in Aussie, could be interesting. I dont think the Poles will gang up on Doyle, as someone suggested. They dont seem to have team rode this year at all - well different to what it may have been in the 60's/70's

Hancock NKI NP FL (if he needs it-he may hang on to 8th) Milik, Lebedevs Fricke will be the first 3 reserves