OveFundinFan

Couple years ago I though both Artum and Gregori should have been in the GPs, not now, both are excellent on a good day, but for the GPs you have to be good at every GP. Martin Vaculick is the same, cracking rider when he is on it, still above average when he's not, but not on it enough.

I understand what IOW are saying and feel for them not being able to see these two riders. However, Gunner 85 outlined the schedule Jack Smith has had/still to come, and Dan Bewley schedule will be similar. Maybe if they turned up they would not be in a fit state to ride to the form that you have heard about, or their machines may not have been up to scratch. Trying to say - you could have been disdappointed and said "whats all the fuss about over these two- they just average" (or less). Problem is the meeting schedules, too many large gaps over this season then all packed in at the end - management of the meeting schedule at fault - whoever does that. Needs sorting for next year, but no one hold their breath.

Thanks for the link Iris, but I hope the meeting was more exciting for the riders then it must have been for the fans. If that typifies the racing at Toggliati then I hope it doesnt get on the GP circuit list. Terrible. And I think Artum laguta next year will prove to be a flop, if he gates he has a chance of winning the race, but as a racer.....not half as good as say 2 years ago.

Thats because nationalism gets in the way. If you want to see the top riders you have to forget which country they come from, and I dont see that happening. If it was 10 Poles (or Swedes, or Danes, or UK) plus 6 others then fans would still want to say how good their countries riders are so they can brag and boast about it. As Iris 123 says FIM will probably put a limit on one country Even in the 60's/70's/80's you didnt get the best riders in the world because there was a limit how many qualified from different qualifying championships. Always been the case I suppose.

Godden wasnt a top rider in the 80's was he. He hiself would have been knocking on a bit in the 80's

Perhaps the riders are taking a holiday. Its another thing wrong with British speedway, but it is far removed from the Jack Holder/Peterborough where JH is riding in Poland (not even Britain) furthering his career.

Might it have something to do with the ridiculous schedule for BV and the Colts during September. Seems crazy packing so many meetings in the month. For instance Mon 21st @BV, Tuesday 22nd @ IOW, Wednesday 23rd @ Birmingham The whole month is busy. Cant see how bikes or bodies can cope with it effectively.

IMO that 11 points was a "hugh" win for Craig Cooke. From a high at being British Champ for the first time, to the lack lustre performance in the WTC final, then a bad run in the Premier league, together with missing some meetings, I was worried for him. Then coming last in his first ride, he has done really well to get 11 from 12 in his next four rides. Thats on a track he had not seen before, and was it right he only took an engine with him, borrowing a rolling chassis (not the best preparation), against some top riders, including some from the current and past GP's. Craig has done extremely well.

Did Cookie have his own equipment. ????? Sounds like the knockers have already started. What I dont like is that their likely to be 5 Poles in next years GP's Well done to Cookie!!!!!!!!!! Pity he come last in his first race - he could have won the event. Give him some credit

Cookies last ride LOOKS easy, can he withstand the pressure. A win would be good.

Not yet, quiet a few could get more if he has a very bad 5th ride - fall, ef, beaten

Great job by Booey, can you imagine how he must have felt after doing that - top of the world feeling. And I noted that whilst it was a double header for Coventry, it was against 2 different teams. Not the farcical situation coming up at Kings Lynn where they race the same tea twice in one night. Nonsense.

Why send racers to a rubbish track hundreds of miles away in a corrupt country such that some of the racers just taking an engine. This is an important meeting and even world championship organisers can make a complete and utter mess by the sound of it. Not just British speedway that has a problem then.

I have watched the 2nd and 3rd round but got to say I am not into best pairs, I would rather see 4 riders racing against each other, and to be honest there doesnt seem to be much team riding, very often one takes the lead and is gone, not bothered where is team mate is even if hes 2nd, the leader hasnt a clue.

That is some line up - whoever gets through is going to have to be on top form.

Hope this isnt going to turn into a farce.

I suspect Holder didnt turn up for his discipinary because he has contempt for British speedway authorities. Then someone (one of his mates) said to him why dont you appeal. He thought thats a good idea, so thats what he is talking about doing. Crackers.

Some of the Polish and Swedish tracks I seen on telly have smaller junior tracks on the inside. Whats stopping Kings Lynn, Leicester, Somerset and others doing the same.

Maybe that was Matt Fords plan, he couldnt have CH this year as the team points were too high, Could it have been something like "there you are Chris, KLynn will have you, just drop your average this year and come back here for 2018 on a low average". If the plan was anything like that then Pooles bubble has been burst and I cant blame Chapman if he saw what the plan was and was not going to go along with it. Poole has worked the system over the years, all praise given to their leader for that by Poole fans, but when someone else catches on that person gets derided, and by whom - a Poole Pirates Fanatic. "What goes round comes round." is one saying I can think of, another "you reap what you sow".

That sounds a nightmare and certainly not the best preparation for such an important meeting. I wonder what challenges Cookie will face to get there? Be interesting to know.

Just think how much subscription would be without advertising. there again, BBC doesnt show adverts at all, and look how people grumble about having to pay £144 pa for a licence!

Racing started about 7:45 and 14 heats were over by 9:05.....thats a pretty slick run meeting by todays standards. Loads of moans when a meeting takes well over 2 hours, and moans when it done in 1hour 20min. And I expect BT (or anyone) to have adverts, what do you think pays for the televised speedway other then companies paying to advertise during a program.

I can see why SEC has agreed not to take on permanently any current GP rider, otherwise SEC would be a world championship less Aussies and Americans. But they do have GP riders as wold cards dont they. Conversely I would expect the World Championship GP's to always have access to the worlds best. If a few current GP rider gets injured, as now (GH, NP, PP) that once the named substitutes are used then they can take on whover they choose to stand in for a period Thats my views.

Why not Milik of Lebedevs, neither of those riders countries have a regular rider in GP's, both are on form, and both seem hungry for success.

Wish I was there for the cycle speedway championship. I rode a Leicester cycle speedway track in 1965, an individual meeting. Think it was Slater Street, very nicely prepared track. Is that you one you going to????