OveFundinFan

I think 1st round at NSS if it was end of April (like this year) could be too early to guarantee good weather. If Cardif could come forward or further back then that would leave NSS in the middle of the year.Its wether Cardiff could be moved.

I thought it was a pretty ok meeting, not the best but certainly had its touches of brilliance. Re the commentators, personally I dont mind them at all, but appreciate others dont like the presentation. Its a bit like brexit, if we had a vote it could turn out 48-52 and the losers would keep moaning forever. It is what it is, get on with it. A bit of a bore when it gets mentioned EVERY gp. Re Peter Kildemand. Bellevueace - last couple years he been theatrical in his riding, or should I say falls, so he not NP in waiting, hes been there but NP was taking the limelight. Re the PK-CH clash. If Holder had not been waving his leg about and lifted just as he got to the corner, thereby being not in control of his machine, the refs decision could have been different. Re the starting fiasco, yes they all know the rules, dont move before the tapes do. However, the ref was consistent with his tape release so they should have tuned in. However, I still say that a computer should randomly release the tapes between one and three seconds so no rider can predict when the tapes go. All would have to be on their toes. Nothing been said much about the poles - last night once again that Zmarzlik is a full throttle merchant, doesnt have much throttle control at all that I can see, and at times he is dm right dangerous and I wouldnt like him neither in front of or behind me. Dudek, bit of a let down this year. Hard to say that when he is still 2nd in the points table, but showing a lot of immaturity. Perhaps those 2 riders are lacking experience riding smaller tracks ie UK, unlike Magic of Pawlicki. Zagar, a treat to watch when in full flow, but not consistent enough. Its good he is fighting for a top 8 place, but he should be fighting for a top 3 place. I wonder whether he lacks confidence in himself. Perhaps he may do well having a session with a head guru. I think 2 gp wins in one season guarantees him a place next year even if he doesnt get top 8 this year. Emil, brilliant passing last night, especially the one passing Kildemand. But where has his gating skill gone to. Much easier to win if you in the lead from the start. He just seems to be lacking something that he had in 2013. And finally, things could be worse, I just tuned in to Moto gp in Aragon and this morning pre race practice is fogged off, yet when the sun comes through (and it will) it is forcast the heat will be massive.

Talking about earnings or paying to ride........I was very surprised to hear whilst watching free practice for the Moto GPs in Aragon yesterday that riders in Moto 2, the 600cc class, only aprox third get paid to ride, a third ride for nothing, and a third have to pay for a ride. These are the riders that this year are riding in 18 GP's around the world at top level (for their class) and only a third get paid. The costs to ride a bike even in GP 2 must be very high. GP 3, the 250 class, wasnt specifically detailed but whs run something similar. Its only when (if) they get to Moto GP that they may earn a return on their investment in Moto 1 & 2. Of course in F1, some drivers pay for their drive. They have to find it from personal sponsorship or a VERY rich dad.

Just ordered it.

The Golden Helmet is where Nicki P got his neck injury last year. Fantastic final, he was right on Emils back tyre - too close he touched it and fell. Emil went on to win the Golden Helmet.

Sounds he taken the best route for him - this season is done, so let the wound heal fully and then see how it goes.

Why not write to BT expressing your thanks for them taking up what Sky left behind, and say how much you would like it to continue next year.

Iit will be interesting to see how Fricke goes now that he has had a bit of racing and got confidence back.

Still got the BV v Wolves match tonight to watch.

Watching it again, it seems the bike "interfered" with the something around the start area which looks like it threw it off a course that looks like it would have hit those girls full on.

Is this another farce in the offering to the paying public. I was hoping I would "grow back into speedway", but has each season has gone on it seems to have got worse. I love the GPs, I went to the new BV for the WTC, but really I have no burning desire to spend my hard earned pension on 2nd rate organisation (thats not blaming the riders)

I thought engines cut out once the safety cord was detached. Or did he not have it round the wrist?

Seen earlier the reply of round 3 in Hallsted, as a warm up for last round Lublin on Eurosport starting 6pm today Looking forward to it

Fair do's, I forget to not include the semis and final.

If Teterow had been a one off world final meeting, Zagar would have been world champ. I would love to see Zagar as world champ as IMO he is a class rider, BUT the way he has ridden this year he is not up there, and it would have been an injustice if he had been crowned world champ. Thats why I favour the GPs these days.

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I have watched BT Sport on my tablet, and I now get it on my TV and have not had anything like that at all. Just a screen full of speedway.

1 Carter 2 Morton 3 Simmo 4 Louis 5 Wilson Mortons career was really something good, especially because he was not a brilliant gater, and he was always in the shadow of PC which psychologically may have affected him. He was the only one of the 5 that had a long track career, riding in 5 finals plus one at reserve, and coming 3rd in one of them - no mean achievement when you consider the era it was (Germans always good plus top speedway riders in the mix as well). I think Dave Jessup deserves a mention as well. 6 world finals (best 3rd) 3 world pairs (won it once) and 6 world team (1st 3 times), let down by the fact never British Champ nor BLRC. Apart fro an engine failure in 1978 in his first race, he could have been world champ that year - scored 11 from 12 after that. Think Olsen won on 13.

I enjoyed the one off world finals, most I saw were at Wembley, the one exception was the last one I seen and that was 1976 in Katowice when PC won it, and its because we, wife and I, wanted to see PC win the world title and we put our money on that year. Thats was a fantastic afternoon and still watch the replays available on You Tube. Its only since 2013 I started seeing the GP series on TV (may have seen an odd one before that). Went to Cardiff 2013-14-15, and I love the series. If the world championship went back too a one meeting event I would be very sad, and I think modern speedway would be lacking. Having 15/16 of the worlds top riders racing together 12 times a year appeals to me much better then a one off meeting, as good as they were.

I record the GP's so I can watch again through the winter months....... there are exceptions though. I already erased the Teterow GP, rather get a tin of paint out and do a bit of painting then watch THAT again.

So basically you encouraging, even suggesting, a rider should affect the outcome of a match by throwing points away - is'nt that cheating. Never ends at Poole does it.

Sure you need a well tuned engine dialled into track conditions etc, but as you say, f-s-p, but the rider plays a very large important part. Rider confidence is massively required and IMO very often changing something (like engine tuner) can give you that confidence, the feeling "I got something special", and especially if they have success in their first rides then this lifts them up mentally. This is proved true because all and sundry seem to be leaving a certain tuner (doesnt matter who but in this case PJR) for a.n.other, yet Matei Zagar comes out on a PJR tuned engine and whips them all. It happened with Freddie Lindgren with the Gerhard motor, big confidence boost, riding on top of the world, suffers an injury so his "feel good" factor is low" which affects his confidence, goes off the boil, then Bingo!, next thing hes changed engines/tuner and off and away he goes again. Pity Freddie had the off form part of this year, I would like to have seen him win the WC, hope he can make the top 3.

I agree, Marky, Zagar cert for a wild card if he doesnt finish top 8 - and he and Vaculick could take Zmarzlik down a couple places if he doesnt perfom in the last meetings.

For those who would like to see the one off world final nights only have to watch this tonight to see that the wrong man could end up being world champ. And thats not being disrespectful to Zagar - on form he is a great rider and I would love to see on form regularly, but the world championship needs a GP series like we have - and I seen many world finals at Wembley. The riders tonight must be very frustrated with track conditions like tonight - not much racing, very strung out. The track caught most of the Poles out, got a bit tricky and they not up to it. Zmarzlik is a full trottle rider with not much throttle control IMO. Track got him really bad tonight. At least the ref was consistent with his moving at the tapes - just absolutely no reason why riders cant go straight round and back to tapes - no pit gates open. The trophies are shocking. Given out a few GPs ago for the first time, once was enough, but I wouldnt want a collection of them - a complete insult to the effort given winning a trophy just to end up with one of those.

I like the solar panels at the track, more tracks should have them. Thank you for the race cards. Joe