Fortythirtyeight

It’s a voluntary scheme so perhaps they declined the invite? , some ‘ kids ‘ have full time jobs and simply don’t have the time to attend. There’s been some lads who have attended once and never returned , it’s personal choice, don’t read too much into it.

Whilst some NDL standard riders may make appearances at some of the meetings it will mainly be ‘ amateur’ racing as the vast majority of riders in all the proposed categories are exactly that. I have no issue with IOW appearing here but having its own section would be beneficial to those that want to follow the IOW and perhaps other NORA and even other amateur racing such as events at Scunthorpe, Iwade and Redcar.

They used too….it was called ‘qualifying’.

He turned down other championship clubs stating he doesn’t want to ride in two divisions due to his already busy schedule so don’t count on that changing.

Which would the lead to average fixing so not an answer at all ( yes, it has gone on ). The NDL is supposed to be a ‘ development ‘ league not a ‘ boost your earnings ‘ league so, if your good enough , move up a league and give another ‘ novice ‘ a chance of a team place in the NDL. There’s riders already declared in the NDL AND Championship who say their disappointed to not yet have a Premiership place, which is ridiculous. We only have a small amount of NDL teams so a small amount of places to develop , so let’s use them wisely.

Typical speedway…..we don’t know how it will work and neither do the people who brought it in, it will just get made up when it suits them .

To be fare to ‘ Ghosty ‘ he/she makes a good point. We are expecting a complete novice new to the NDL , who may race once a fortnight if he’s lucky to then race against a rider who turns out twice a week in the championship and perhaps once a week against Grand Prix standard riders? Trying to get new fans is hard enough when you say our rider ‘X’ also rides for another team in a higher/ lower division ? Theres an imbalance there that you simply cannot explain to non speedway folk with any sense of credibility.

80% of ‘ mechanics ‘ ( and a lot of them are kidding themselves to be called that ) do it for a pie and a pint. Most are ‘ mates ‘ and do it for the love of the sport, there are some very good ones out there but they know the state of the sport and usually the rate ‘their’ rider is on and don’t charge such silly fees.

Then he’s spending too much on fancy vans, expensive engine tuners, too many bikes or even ‘ team merchandise’ !

He will be very fortunate to get 50 meetings in the UK unless he’s the most popular guest in both divisions and to be that he would have to be a lot cheaper than your wage estimates ! Richard is not a greedy lad but you appear to be making it out he demands high wages. Whilst every rider deserves as much as can get , please don’t make figures up just for impact.

because it is.

As your obviously an expert as you claim £500 is “far from unrealistic “ perhaps you could explain how you come to that decision ?

Not necessarily true. If the ‘ asset ‘ is not ‘ fancied by the owners then coughing up a few hundred for a rider they do ‘ fancy ‘ then that’s what will happen. There’s also the case of the ‘asset’ not wishing not to ride for his owners, Loads of examples of that in the past.

Not sure why everybody’s getting their knickers in a twist over ‘ guarantees ‘. These can take many forms, i.e. a minimum guarantee mainly used for low average riders so they at least know they can cover their expenses. There’s an ‘ average ‘ guarantee, guaranteed payment upto your average and then a ‘ bonus ‘ for scoring extra points. They come in many forms, one club paid all 7 riders a ‘ guarantee wage ‘ so that he knew what his wage bill would be each match. It’s up to the promoter how he comes up with a deal and nothing to do with the rest of us.

Bit like your life apparently

Any chance of this going back to being a Redcar thread and not a Basso fall out thread?

In your opinion.

Because titles aren’t won on paper and Redcar fans don’t get carried away on forums , they are just happy to have a good team, a great track and an improving set up. A strong team, same as last season , certain to be in the play offs but you need luck , no injuries and form at the right time to win titles. Good to see them giving two young British lads the reserve spots.

in short….NO.

Because it’s on their doorstep and their gypo’s.

When Buster Chapman took over Leicester he didn’t pay the riders who were owed by the previous promotion, they simply never got paid. Happened a number of times through recent years.

Exactly ! So why did you suggest a BSPL run ‘new club’ when they are struggling to keep their own individual clubs afloat ? The same people who failed to invest in the sport are still , in the majority, running the sport as the few , new, promotions with new ideas have no say in how it’s run so nothing is going to change hence the 2022 set up being the same as 2021 . Nothing will change till it implodes and then, hopefully , gets a complete overhaul.

You think the BSPL have any cash for such a project or even the combined will to actually do something collectively for the ‘ good of the sport ‘ when most of them are struggling to keep their own clubs running ?

The trotting track hosted the Long track meeting which Ivan and many other stars featured in, including Peter Collins, Don Godden, Simon Wigg etc. The A.C.U. have looked at the facility in recent times but it hasn’t gone any further.

The thread is existing ‘ Stadiums ‘, that could host speedway, Redcar wasn’t a stadium, Northside ( Workington ) is not a stadium, both built from scratch on waste land.