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Surely it can't be Scunthorpe or such like even allowing for the fact when it comes to budgeting Rob can make a tenner stretch the same way the lord Jesus could when making a fish and loaf of bread go round five hundred odd people.

I can remember John Cowboy Cook having a brief stint at Lynn possibly back end of the 80's and he had some cool white leathers with black tiger stripes

Christ I can remember that Dean did he ride for Lynn from memory back in the early Ray Morton days possibly

It there's no tv deal that would be my choice if only 5 teams keep the current points limit once home and away then top four into play offs and maybe run a second team in the second division would hopefully help minimise losses and people should turn up as you would only see the top men once or twice at home.

This is where Poole win so many times they manage to nab a future world beater on a low average, it was a fair chance this year whoever ended up with Cairns so long as they had a reasonably decent side should win the league as he came in on a 2 but was really worth 4-5 points per match. If they get both Rushden and Bailey in next year on low averages , retain Cairns, Rowe and Lawson they will already be difficult to beat as they will have two new riders on below true averages, not knocking them as any team could do this. Yes its a risk running with three very young riders but equally given most teams ifthe points limit is lowered further have to run with a couple of two pointers you can again see the three youngsters putting 2-3 points on their starting averages and if the big guns do the job and no injuries they will be there or there abouts again in 2026.

Kelly Moran Hon mentions Henka, Darcy Ward, Mark Loram

And here's both the lads in full flow

He will be up there for sure if he keeps his head straight, if Poole end up landing him and Beau Bailey they will have two of the best up and coming talents available and both born racers as well. I watched the SGP 3 grand prix this year which featured them both and there were plenty of riders in that field that would be worth a punt in 1-3 years time if they could be tempted over.

Can't disagree with that real shame he's had such bad luck with injuries recently as although he's no longer the force he was at the top table in the UK league in 2024 he was winning races with his eyes closed.

Flip side they aren't risking losing six figures per season trying to compete in the top league

Got to be more teams coming in then if its that low surely ? a 5 team top league with watering down would be a disaster otherwise.

Don't really think it was a hissy fit he admits he saw the writing on the wall eventually for the prem league , we all know its in a bad place if it was attractive he would no doubt move up but for the present time there's way more downside than upside for him, same for Glasgow. If they go with five clubs he might just get his wish.

Don't really think it was a hissy fit he admits he saw the writing on the wall eventually for the prem league , we all know its in a bad place if it was attractive he would no doubt move up but for the present time there's way more downside than upside for him, same for Glasgow.

Whats the score Dean link takes you to a private group which can't be accessed ?

Go on ?

Neils worth hanging onto for number 2 position granted not the force he was but should average 6-7 over a season ?

Hugely unlikely they are already getting decent crowds and not much attraction of increasing costs by a third in a league of possibly another 4 or 5 teams, plus if they end up with the three super talented youngsters Cairns, Rushden and Bailey next season if those three can crack on they will bring in the crowds. I haven't been to Poole but the only worry I would have if the one line blue groove quotes are true is its not the kind of track that would suit out and out racers like Rushden and Bailey.

What about that young dane who entered the end of season meeting granted wasn't the strongest field and terrible conditions but he seemed useful ?

Jeez where has the time gone, I remember Henka's debut possibly it was against Cradley his first three rides he looked pretty average but by the fourth ride he had weighed the track up and came from the back to win in style pretty much from then on he was a force at Saddlebow Road. Loram was a great rider to watch but Henka in full flow was a cut above even Mark.

Doesn't read well does it no tv deal at the moment a possible 5 team premiership , that can't be feasible and even five sounds dubious, the championship should be okay if Mildenhall enter into it. Hopefully something will be pulled out of the bag but being realistic what can they do if no tv deal no money for top men they can't go three home and away that would be suicide but it seems its going to be more sticking plasters on the same old format.

Was it really only three seasons Bagpuss ? I thought he was there for a bit longer but I was getting more interested in night clubs at that time, I seem to remember Knight going to Berwick to make way another Mike Lee comback but that season the old Mike was long gone I remember him following Andy Meredith in one race when Andy was essentially a wobbler, Mike kept lining him up but just didn't have the bottle to make the pass.

Given Plymouth is a small track it could be worth trying to get the young yank Slater Lightcap over or Dillon Ruml whatever happened to him looked to be making great progress at Oxford then nothing I haven't even seen him racing in the USA be a shame if he has retired as I think with time he could have developed into a useful rider in the UK.

Agreed but Beau Bailey does look the real deal and one hell of a racer, Cooper another racer reminds me a bit of Kelly Moran and should have a massive future, don't know much about Cairns but again seems highly rated, if you ended up with them three and the Fords could tempt someone like Bastian Pederson over also and give them a track you could really race on you would get 2-3k in per week. When I was young and used to attend Speedway at Lynn we got stuffed most weeks but Loram and Henka were starting out and just witnessing those two pull off incredible moves was worth the defeats as they were so great and exciting. I always thought Henka was a more natural talent than T.Rick but ultimately Tony had that extra 5% grit that separated great riders from Speedway legends.

Seem to remember they did similar a few years back, it will help balance things a bit more, but trade off will be those third tier heat leaders on an attractive sub 8 point average will most likely want more money next year as they know their bargaining position is better. The bigger issue is though its a tiny effort against the wholesale restructuring that needs to happen obviously not helped by the fact there is currently by the sound of it no tv contract on offer, hopefully Flagrag's words of wisdom to the promoters will bear some form of fruit.

On a five year frame looking at natural talent its no contest Bailey all the way the flip side being the boy should be one day gracing the biggest stage so after 3-4 years UK he most likely will be off to Poland full time where Tobias may not improve much but he could be long term servant to UK speedway.