Crump99

Would have ironically been busy at Leicester last night. Did you see that Kings Lynn side

Stable door job and deflecting all of the blame because they are not really in control of the sport and their own showpiece event. So the question was asked and refused prior to Friday but Holder left anyway (and was pointed out and discussed on here on Friday) but it takes until Sunday afternoon to get response out. What a weak excuse permission of the club is. The club didn't have authorisation to give their blessing if the BSPA didn't sanction it and contractually and by agreement the rider should be at Peterborough? Should get 28 days anyway. Would be interesting to know what evidence they have, if indeed they have any, but that'll never get out anyway. Nice carrot though

Problem being that when they step in it there's less and less on the shoes to scrape off and speedway's powers that be are seemingly unable to do much about it to halt the downward spiral.

Aren't they the same person!

For an apparent top league those are two shocking sides which shows how weak British Speedway is. That'd be a premium second tier fixture but as a fixture at the Manchester United of speedway it's more suited to Burton Albion (with all due respect to Burton).

Well you found this thread but there's a Pairs one in the same section. As for the rest, look further up in the general section.

I think that a real EL with 9 home and 9 away fixtures was what Peterborough needed. Never happened of course and it's quantity over quality that was chosen for British Speedway, especially at the level we dropped into and stuck. Redcar x6 is testament to that. As for the crowd, Neil forgot to mention that there was nothing on the fixture which was the biggest factor IMO, plus the absence of Holder who is a draw at the EoES.

It's the half way point not October. It's been ifs, buts and maybe for a good while now. When was the last time you thought that Woffinden was the tattoo to beat?

That's his problem. A few years ago he couldn't miss a start and looked a world beater, whereas now he can't consistently buy a start and just pops up with the odd convincing race, much like anyone else tbh.

Fair point but anyone who knows you knows that you're the ultimate (ultimate what, now there's a quiz question) anyway. Unwittingly though you have just disproved the two sides theory because there is no discussion to be had on what you are, so there is no middle ground

Exactly, it's all maybe and maybe not in speedway. Take it all with a pinch of salt.

Who's to say that he didn't?

Yup. There's always two sides with the truth usually somewhere in the middle.

I dunno mate. You're a dog with a bone with more interest in the case than I. All I know is Wright rode well as expected without any ill effects, and I read a lot of hot air on here

I'm not taking sides though because I never wanted to be in the Prem or what it's morphed into anyway. The point was that Panthers have missing riders (fans moan) due to the more important league calling when that's their own fault for not going up when they allegedly could have. I can't see that financially it costs too much more because basically it's the same riders. Logistically it might have been an issue for Peterborough because Sundays would be off the agenda (with a possible financial consequence) but I can't see much else? More chance of your own team being regularly available. Don't know anything about Vatcher, or care tbh. (that's for jenga's consumption)

Probably common practice just to check after such injury despite the lay off. Can check alertness, reactions, balance etc, you don't need medical records for that because we know what happened. Mountains and molehills spring to mind.

It's been odds on for a few seasons though that the EL as it was would knacker up the Prem that was. The Prem was far too stable and was seemingly the better product. The BSPA couldn't allow that to remain the case. We had the chance to be a first priority side in 2017 but chose to play second fiddle to the likes of Swindon and bloody Rye House of all teams.

On second thoughts, having to wait an hour or more for a county ambulance to take you to hospital to have your bell removed means that you're probably best to stay at Foxhole. Also much easier to get there on and park your waddledickie

You boys should give up Foxhole and start supporting Panthers. You're on our threads more than the boy and girls from the EoES.

In what respect?

Not having a quality no1 who gates consistently and intimidates the opposition is a different issue from the coin toss and a slick one line track, if that's what you mean. You ain't gonna get one of those riders in this league anyway, and probably not in British Speedway the way it's going. The likes of Crump, Andersen, Poole etc (ie, when a 3-3 is the worst you'll get in heat 1) are long gone. 1&3 should be good for heat 1 and the first half of the meeting until the dust moves out and drys out. It doesn't matter what gates they choose if they don't wake up until it's too late, again! Although they never got back in this anyway. "We seem to start away meetings slowly and then get going a bit too late so it's important we gel together as a team and be on it from the first heat." - clearly forgot the get together and motivational management speech!

We never learn though, which is amazing given that a member of the management team should have seen it, done it, and more than likely experienced all of it (ironically with Swindon). Such agreements are chip paper. When push comes to shove, promoters will forget all such niceties and do what's best for them within the rules of the day, irrespective of Panthers turning into Neville Chamberlain (today's second history lesson!) again. As Neil said, it's clear enough what would happen. As for Holder, he has been the one bright spark, but even he needs a track to race on, not a slick one liner like we had last night. Everyone chasing the line near the fence, and that apparent fantastic gating display against a ragbag Redcar outfit now in the distant past. In that case you have to give your team a plan b of a raceable circuit - we didn't. Having said that, if we did then the scorline may have been worse. Mick Bratley (who I think I heard Tarzan mutter was there last night?) used to say that preparation for next season started in April so you're a bit late tbh. Take another day off mate.

Rathbone said the same in interview. Think that he added (sound was up and down and crap all night) that they checked on clashes and there didn't seem to be a problem but then fixture clashes suddenly appeared out of the woodwork (can't see how that was unexpected?) then Panthers were knackered. The system doesn't seem fit for purpose.

Nothing wrong with the shape, it's inconsistent preparation (too often slick one line as it was this evening) and the poor standard of riders we have to put up with these days that is the problem. The riders (well some of them) just not fast enough and can't cope with a decent circuit, and we have to be a 5 or 6 man team all too often due to reserves who shouldn't be in the league in the first place.