False dawn

The email clearly says, "Once we’ve announced the new date for 2021 a further 30 day refund period will be provided with details to follow".

A slightly nerdy aside..... We were reminded on Saturday that the FIM rules don't allow dead heats. If two riders finish on the exact same time, to 3 decimal places, is the ref expected to judge the relative finishing positions to a greater degree of accuracy? Not sure what distance a thousandth of second represents, but it can't be much more than a fag paper! These refs can't be blind after all.

I think this has been done to death before but can I ask (sorry if it's repeat) a question regarding transponders? All bikes at the GPs are fitted with transponders, which measure lap times and race times to a thousandth of a second. Can these same devices be used to measure start time response times? Thus, as in athetics, we could have a scientific measure of starts.

Absolutely. I can remeber but a few riders in the past 50 years that are so exciting to watch. Particularly his all action style. I'm sure I can think of a few but Bobby Ott springs to mind.

Good point. But bottom line, is there anyone out there who can deny BZ the no.1 ranking in the world? Today, anyway?

I'd go further. Your total race points would count towards the world championship and your finishing position in each GP final would only determine your finishing position in that GP. Does anyone have a sense of déjà vu?

And all this discussion about who got what championship points, way after the end of the meeting as per last night, I find slightly amusing. Wouldn't it be easier to just award points according to where you finish in a race? 3 for first, 2 for second and 1 for third might work.

It's a bloke

Under this system, it's theoretically possible to become world champion without winning a race.

That's why Greg always felt at home in Cardiff. I'll get my coat.

That only sorts out two riders in the same semi. It seems that an exclusion from one semi where only 3 riders are lining up, trumps a 4th place finish in the other semi

Be careful what you wish for. If anticipating the tapes was allowed, more riders (all?) would be at it. Then you'd need super slomo to see who touched the tapes first!

What about poor old Vaclav Milik. He managed to finish 17th out 16

I think Doyle gets the nod because he was effectively excluded from 3rd place.

That is the rule. As was said on TV, maybe the ref thought the two jump starts only deserved one warning/exclusion

If you get excluded, you carry a warning from then on.

3 new track records in 6 races

Having been to every round so far this year (with the exception of my local track Leicester, which was held behind closed doors), I can highly recommend this meeting. And by gum, they do get on with these meetings, signalling the 2 minute warning before the riders from the previous heat have even reached the back straight. I hope the timing of this meeting has not escaped the promotion / referee. They have 2 hours to avoid a clash with the GP.

Thanks for runnning the competition R and R. If they keep reducing the number of rounds in the series, I might make it through the entire competition

Maciej Janowski £100 more Artem Laguta £100 more

Maciej Janowski £50 less (I want this to be wrong) Tai Woffinden £50 less (it pains me to do it)

Belle Vue - 10th October I bought two tickets for this meeting the minute I heard they were on sale. Strangely only back straight tickets were avialable online but undetered I went ahead. A few days later I spotted postings on here indicating that granstand seats were avialable. I wrote (nicely) to BV asking for an explanation and enquiring if it were possible to exchange my tickets. This was more in hope than expectation. Well ye of little faith Fd. The nice folks from up north invited me to ring and they would see what could be done. I duly rang this morning and a very pleasant lady cancelled my original purchase, helped me select two very good replacements and chatted for a few minutes about the difficulties of running meetings and the prospects for the SON meeting (nothing new to report, I'm afraid). I promised to publicly acknowledge BV's assistance in this matter and so that's what I'm doing. Thank you for your gracious treatment of my request for help.

And that's from someone in Stockport!

Time to dust off my stopwatch. I'm going in the ref's box

Good analysis. However, you do have to make an adjustment. The total race points available from 23 heats is 138. Whereas the total championship points available is 146. So you have to to inflate the race points by nearly 6% to make the comparison. Thus the gain/loss for each competitor now looks like this: 1 2 total pts +/- Freddie Lindgren 37% 10 11 21 30 9 Matej Zagar 14% 6 4 10 12 2 Max Fricke 14% 2 8 10 12 2 Tai Woffinden 13% 12 15 27 32 5 Gleb Chugunov 8% 6 8 14 16 2 Patryk Dudek 3% 5 7 12 13 1 Bartosz Zmarzlik 2% 11 14 25 27 2 Maciej Janowski 0% 17 19 36 38 2 Jason Doyle -6% 5 3 8 8 0 Niels-Kristian Iversen -6% 3 11 14 14 0 Antonio Lindback -6% 1 1 2 2 0 Artem Laguta -9% 20 13 33 32 -1 Mikkel Michelsen -14% 5 7 12 11 -1 Leon Madsen -16% 13 7 20 18 -2 Emil Sayfutdinov -18% 11 6 17 15 -2 Martin Vaculik -26% 11 4 15 12 -3