Fromafar Posted July 9 Report Share Posted July 9 36 minutes ago, Marksman said: Noticed that we have been deducted 2 points for a breach of SCB rules, so back to zero points. Petty and pathetic is that’s the case.At least in Speedway it’s not really that important It’s a Circus,the racing and entertainment that matters to most fans nowadays. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted July 9 Author Report Share Posted July 9 (edited) Looking through the fixtures all comets home meetings showing at 6.00 but at least 1 away fixture changed, Poole now showing on bspa fixtures as 23rd July was 13th August !!! Bugger looks like the mini tour Poole, Ipswich and scunny now not going to happen ☹️ Edited July 9 by Neila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post arnieg Posted July 9 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 9 34 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Petty and pathetic is that’s the case.At least in Speedway it’s not really that important It’s a Circus,the racing and entertainment that matters to most fans nowadays. So what should the SCB do, ignore rule breaches? However what it does need to do is explain what rule has been breached. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mgas Posted July 9 Report Share Posted July 9 15 minutes ago, arnieg said: So what should the SCB do, ignore rule breaches? However what it does need to do is explain what rule has been breached. Exactly, if a rule has been broken that requires the points deduction. The SCB should be publishing a full statement outlining the rule and breach. Much the same as other forms of professional motorsport. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 8 hours ago, arnieg said: So what should the SCB do, ignore rule breaches? However what it does need to do is explain what rule has been breached. Maybe they're having "administrative issues" 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 9 hours ago, Fromafar said: Petty and pathetic is that’s the case.At least in Speedway it’s not really that important It’s a Circus,the racing and entertainment that matters to most fans nowadays. On that basis, why is it still a team sport/activity? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelShoe Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 may have trouble finding anything specific in SCB regs re this, queue supplementary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 Great news, Hopefully everything goes well for the Comets going forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 31 minutes ago, SteelShoe said: may have trouble finding anything specific in SCB regs re this, queue supplementary. It’s will be on the “best interest of the sport category “no doubt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 38 minutes ago, Ray Stadia said: On that basis, why is it still a team sport/activity? 🤔 Seeing the same riders turn up for different Teams throughout the season would be my basis.In some instances not beneficial to their own Team by their Performance.Just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 (edited) 11 hours ago, SteelShoe said: I would just like to express my thanks to Glasgow Speedway and the Facenna family for their help and advice given to Andrew and Workington Speedway through what has been a very difficult time. Seems not all are grateful, but I think they see it as an opportunity to be involved with another club and help it grow. What they will bring is professionalism and stability. Edited July 10 by Gazc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmon Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 9 hours ago, Neila said: Looking through the fixtures all comets home meetings showing at 6.00 but at least 1 away fixture changed, Poole now showing on bspa fixtures as 23rd July was 13th August !!! Bugger looks like the mini tour Poole, Ipswich and scunny now not going to happen ☹️ Edinburgh was supposed to be at Poole originally on the 23rd and we had that down as the start of the tour of Poole, Ipswich, Scunthorpe, Workington and Leicester taking in three Monarchs matches two CL and one NDL. Had to cancel our early accommodation and now starting at Scunthorpe. There was a coach travelling for the Poole and Scunthorpe with Sheffield in between, this was cancelled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelShoe Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 12 hours ago, TigerIain said: If the company was struck off for not filing accounts then that is purely on them, not the BSPL. Assets of a struck of company transfer to The Crown, and would have to be bought back by the new Ltd Co. Normal day to day operating of the assets as an individual or as the sole director and sole shareholder of a limited company is no different (unless the company gets stuck off), but a Ltd Co pays less tax, especially if the individual pays higher rate tax. If the Ltd Co had any assets that were required for speedway to run (track, licence, riders, visas) then the club could not run whilst The Crown owned the assets, which again is nothing to do with BSPL. Involvement of another promotion (through sponsorship) is likely related to the quickest way to sort visas as presumably it's easier and quicker for an established company to obtain them than a new one. Whatever the cause of the issues, it's good to see the Comets back on track (and hopefully filing accounts on time!) The Comets failed to file accounts and it is on them. Assets can potentially transfer to the crown if the process is initiated, I do not believe it was. I believe you are correct re Visas and this is probably what has happened. With re to accounts filed with Companies House; I have looked at some of these since this has happened and have been surprised by the lack of detail. Speedway teams are small companies or micro entities, as such the accounts are in shortened format (Abridged) with little detail and unaudited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmon Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 57 minutes ago, SteelShoe said: may have trouble finding anything specific in SCB regs re this, queue supplementary. No chance of that Jim Lawrence doesn't do supplementary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelShoe Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 10 minutes ago, Gazc said: Seems not all are grateful, but I think they see it as an opportunity to be involved with another club and help it grow. What they will bring is professionalism and stability. The people I know are. Glasgow are a respected and well run club in the eyes of not just Worky fans but Speedway fans in general. 👍 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJA Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 So a new company has been formed yesterday https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/16571367 With a single Director https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/16571367/officers I just hope that when the old company went to the wall on the 17th June https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/04261535 no small local business were owed money that they walked away from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_minall Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 This is purely speculation but one assumes that the 2 points were deducted because perhaps that meeting that was conducted shouldn't have gone ahead because rider visa's were not valid at that time? I'm not keeping up to date with this in great detail, but it was the first thing that came to mind. Either way, it's great news they are back. We can't afford to lose any more tracks and fair play to the Facennas for stepping in. We owe a massive gratitude to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundTheBoards Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 1 hour ago, SJA said: I just hope that when the old company went to the wall on the 17th June https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/04261535 no small local business were owed money that they walked away from. No one walked away. They'd just be paid by the new company who have taken on the business as a going concern. People trying to make problems that don't exist. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelShoe Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 (edited) 7 hours ago, Dave_minall said: This is purely speculation but one assumes that the 2 points were deducted because perhaps that meeting that was conducted shouldn't have gone ahead because rider visa's were not valid at that time? I'm not keeping up to date with this in great detail, but it was the first thing that came to mind. Either way, it's great news they are back. We can't afford to lose any more tracks and fair play to the Facennas for stepping in. We owe a massive gratitude to them. Birmingham withdrew sponsorship of Antti when they released him, however, his visa continued for 60 days . The issue wasn't financial but a failure to submit records. If one riders visa carries on for 60 days with no sponsor then surely the visas of Jacob Hooks and Fraser Bowes would as well. This is why I questioned whether the BSPL have been harsh in suspending the Comets, could the situation have been resolved without the punitive action ?. To deduct them 2 points after the statement just doesn't feel right. Perhaps the BSPL should give us all an explanation . Edited July 10 by SteelShoe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mgas Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 7 hours ago, Dave_minall said: This is purely speculation but one assumes that the 2 points were deducted because perhaps that meeting that was conducted shouldn't have gone ahead because rider visa's were not valid at that time? I'm not keeping up to date with this in great detail, but it was the first thing that came to mind. Either way, it's great news they are back. We can't afford to lose any more tracks and fair play to the Facennas for stepping in. We owe a massive gratitude to them. I think the important part is there should be absolutely no speculation or doubt. If a governing body of any sport imposes sanctions it should be very clearly explained. I have no interest in the now resolved issues at Workington but I am, and think everyone should be interested in clarity from the SCB regarding the points deduction. They should not be allowed to impose sanctions without explanation. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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