Noelinho Posted Saturday at 02:41 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 02:41 PM 4 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Last season at Poole in the KO cup final he smoked Lawson by 100 metres to win his third ride, but was tailed off in his other three rides, throttling right off as he came to a bend. In the playoff final, it was the same, two tailed off lasts before beating Lawson by a straight. If he gets in front he is very fast. The trouble is he is lacking any nerve to physically mix it if caught in a first bend tussle. Whether he. A get over these issues or not will determine whether he has what it takes to become a speedway rider of merit. Certainly has the equipment and raw talent but that alone is not enough when there are riders out there who will make up on a lake of talent by having bigger balls. But there could be more to his issues than that. Why throttle off entering bends throughout a race when there’s no one near him? It's not just mixing it, it's anywhere near, like you say. When he's at the back, he seems to leave half a lap between him and the rider in front. I just don't get it. You only get 16 laps a meeting, and spending half of them putting no real effort in is such a waste. No idea what the answer is, but cantering around at half speed on the bike certainly isn't helping him. He seems to be going through mechanics quickly, and he's posted about engines - I'm not sure he's fully accepted the issue is mostly in his head yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted Saturday at 04:32 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 04:32 PM I posted about Boughen last season, no question the guy has natural talent and is really quick but he has some sort of mental block,at the time people were saying lack of experience and it will come in time but it isn’t, it’s something he needs to work out possibly with a sport psychologist because until he gets over it his career will suffer, it’s not just a issue for him though as we saw last year against Poole when he gated and then shut off causing Zack cook to hit him from behind 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted Saturday at 04:58 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 04:58 PM If Mikkel Andersen is his replacement, I find it quite incredible he can be coming on a 5 point average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted Saturday at 04:59 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 04:59 PM 24 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: I posted about Boughen last season, no question the guy has natural talent and is really quick but he has some sort of mental block,at the time people were saying lack of experience and it will come in time but it isn’t, it’s something he needs to work out possibly with a sport psychologist because until he gets over it his career will suffer, it’s not just a issue for him though as we saw last year against Poole when he gated and then shut off causing Zack cook to hit him from behind Agree. I mentioned a few months ago that spots psychologist might be the way to go. Great talent, but sorting his issue out is a must imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted Saturday at 05:25 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 05:25 PM 24 minutes ago, foreverblue said: If Mikkel Andersen is his replacement, I find it quite incredible he can be coming on a 5 point average. Think some are just guessing throwing names out in the hope one will stick. We have no confirmation that Ashton has been released so a replacement is slightly premature. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted Saturday at 06:14 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 06:14 PM Bomber won't be happy if his protégé Boughen is released!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted Saturday at 07:12 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 07:12 PM 58 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said: Bomber won't be happy if his protégé Boughen is released!! I thought the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted Saturday at 07:28 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 07:28 PM If rumours are true, oh the irony Ashton bins Oxford for Glasgow, then Glasgow bins Ashton for ?? Possibly leaving Ashton no championship track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted Saturday at 07:36 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 07:36 PM Harris has been in the game long enough to understand why clubs drop riders. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted Saturday at 07:40 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 07:40 PM 2 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Harris has been in the game long enough to understand why clubs drop riders. Yes, but he doesn't like young riders being dropped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted Saturday at 07:47 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 07:47 PM 3 minutes ago, LisaColette said: Yes, but he doesn't like young riders being dropped. He's not daft, he will be well aware that Boughen is throttling off and completely in the wrong head state to compete properly at the moment. Like others have said Ashton needs to somehow get back into the third division, get a psychologist on board and sort out his issues because the current status quo is doing absolutely nobody any good whatsoever. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted Saturday at 07:53 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 07:53 PM (edited) If Glasgow wants to win the championship they can’t carry a 5.27 point rider which is only dew to his rolling average , he averaging less than 3 at the moment and pretty sure any other team would be looking for a change before his ave drops to just over 3 Edited Saturday at 07:54 PM by mac101 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted Saturday at 08:07 PM Author Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:07 PM 25 minutes ago, LisaColette said: Yes, but he doesn't like young riders being dropped. Yes, but he also likes winning. Not showing up for your 3rd ride and gifting a point to Edinburgh no.7 is final straw for me. If someone can explain to me why that happened happy to be wrong. But that point could be difference between qualify and not 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted Saturday at 08:08 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:08 PM 3 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: Agree. I mentioned a few months ago that spots psychologist might be the way to go. Great talent, but sorting his issue out is a must imho. I’m afraid he needs more than sports psychologist to tell him to get stuck in on the 1st Bend.Its a tough game.Shut the throttle and your history. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted Saturday at 08:13 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:13 PM 19 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: He's not daft, he will be well aware that Boughen is throttling off and completely in the wrong head state to compete properly at the moment. Like others have said Ashton needs to somehow get back into the third division, get a psychologist on board and sort out his issues because the current status quo is doing absolutely nobody any good whatsoever. Just now, Jaizer said: Yes, but he also likes winning. Not showing up for your 3rd ride and gifting a point to Edinburgh no.7 is final straw for me. If someone can explain to me why that happened happy to be wrong. But that point could be difference between qualify and not I just remember Harris being on a podcast and saying both reserves should be young riders (might have meant Prem, not sure) and that they shouldn't be allowed to be dropped as sometimes they need a whole season. Or words similar. Jaizer, have you read the KL thread? As Phil put on there that he was dropped mid meeting. I mean who drops someone mid meeting? Wait til they done all their rides!! If that is true of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted Saturday at 08:15 PM Author Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:15 PM Just now, LisaColette said: I just remember Harris being on a podcast and saying both reserves should be young riders (might have meant Prem, not sure) and that they shouldn't be allowed to be dropped as sometimes they need a whole season. Or words similar. Jaizer, have you read the KL thread? As Phil put on there that he was dropped mid meeting. I mean who drops someone mid meeting? Wait til they done all their rides!! If that is true of course. As I said earlier. Sedgy was dropped pre meeting and got a max couple years ago. I highly doubt be done mid meeting but let's face it not first rider to know getting their jotters but still show up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted Saturday at 08:18 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:18 PM (edited) 6 minutes ago, LisaColette said: I just remember Harris being on a podcast and saying both reserves should be young riders (might have meant Prem, not sure) and that they shouldn't be allowed to be dropped as sometimes they need a whole season. Or words similar. Jaizer, have you read the KL thread? As Phil put on there that he was dropped mid meeting. I mean who drops someone mid meeting? Wait til they done all their rides!! If that is true of course. Ashton is not a reserve he is a 5.27 rider averaging less than 3 and he was not sacked durning the meeting his dad wanted him pulled out the meeting as his head was not in the right place and the medics would not sign him off so now has a 28 day ban for withholding his services Edited Saturday at 08:20 PM by mac101 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted Saturday at 08:29 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:29 PM 12 minutes ago, LisaColette said: I just remember Harris being on a podcast and saying both reserves should be young riders (might have meant Prem, not sure) and that they shouldn't be allowed to be dropped as sometimes they need a whole season. Or words similar. Jaizer, have you read the KL thread? As Phil put on there that he was dropped mid meeting. I mean who drops someone mid meeting? Wait til they done all their rides!! If that is true of course. Drama and Queen immediately springs to mind. As been said he refused to take his 3rd ride and if his head had gone who can blame him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted Saturday at 08:31 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:31 PM 12 minutes ago, mac101 said: Ashton is not a reserve he is a 5.27 rider averaging less than 3 and he was not sacked durning the meeting his dad wanted him pulled out the meeting as his head was not in the right place and the medics would not sign him off so now has a 28 day ban for withholding his services Ok, thanks for clearing that up 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted Saturday at 08:34 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:34 PM 56 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Harris has been in the game long enough to understand why clubs drop riders. And its not like he hasnt seen it coming, surprised he is still a Stars rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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