Poole vs Oxford BSN 07/05/25

[LisaColette]

https://oxfordspeedway.club/2025/05/cheetahs-looking-for-bsn-series-progress/

This is pretty much a knockout competition now! Should be a close one, depends on JJ and Gilkes for them imo. 

Edit- didn't realise Heeps was carrying an injury? If using r/r can everyone have a ride? Not sure on averages. 

Edited Tuesday at 08:22 AM by LisaColette

[SteveLyric2]

1 hour ago, LisaColette said:

https://oxfordspeedway.club/2025/05/cheetahs-looking-for-bsn-series-progress/

This is pretty much a knockout competition now! Should be a close one, depends on JJ and Gilkes for them imo. 

Edit- didn't realise Heeps was carrying an injury? If using r/r can everyone have a ride? Not sure on averages. 

Heeps is 2nd in Oxford's averages(6.61) so anyone can take his r/r rides.

[Steve Shovlar]

Heeps is notoriously crap around Poole. 

[Arthur54]

51 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Heeps is notoriously crap around Poole. 

Probably makes them stronger 

[szkocjasid]

I don't understand why Schroeck has put r/r at 2. It just means Masters will take his extra ride against the weakest second string & a reserve. Is that really the best use of arguably the best rider in the league?

I suppose if you think you're gonna get thrashed, then it's a good move, putting your best man in the easiest heat to give yourself a better chance of picking up 30 points!

But I would say it's a negative tactic. That being said, I don't think there was any thought put into it, just the usual "r/r always goes at 2" attitude, which a great many managers follow, not just Schroeck.

Edited Tuesday at 04:42 PM by szkocjasid

[lucifer sam]

7 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Heeps is notoriously crap around Poole. 

 

6 hours ago, Arthur54 said:

Probably makes them stronger 

The usual rhetoric, I see.  No doubt if a Poole rider was missing, it would make you much weaker.

Will miss my usual chat with the late Steve Pijper prior to the meeting tomorrow (Steve will be much missed) but still looking forward to hopefully a strong performance from Cheetahs tomorrow.

[Arthur54]

1 hour ago, lucifer sam said:

 

The usual rhetoric, I see.  No doubt if a Poole rider was missing, it would make you much weaker.

Will miss my usual chat with the late Steve Pijper prior to the meeting tomorrow (Steve will be much missed) but still looking forward to hopefully a strong performance from Cheetahs tomorrow.

Heeps is not that good around Poole, and with Masters taking one of his rides, that's a good chance of 3pts straight away 

[szkocjasid]

21 minutes ago, Arthur54 said:

Heeps is not that good around Poole, and with Masters taking one of his rides, that's a good chance of 3 pts straight away 

In heat 8 against a reserve!

[foreverblue]

3 hours ago, lucifer sam said:

 

The usual rhetoric, I see.  No doubt if a Poole rider was missing, it would make you much weaker.

Will miss my usual chat with the late Steve Pijper prior to the meeting tomorrow (Steve will be much missed) but still looking forward to hopefully a strong performance from Cheetahs tomorrow.

Obviously we would be weaker but Heeps is usually poor at Poole and is probably one of the worst number 5's in the league.

[szkocjasid]

If it's a draw & Poole win the superheat, Poole would go through with a record of 1 win, 2 draws & 1 loss. Oxford could go out with a record of 2 wins, 2 draws!

Of course the second place team may also qualify too.

Edited 20 hours ago by szkocjasid

[ASpeedwayfan]

Oxford are no doubt stronger with Heeps not riding but shouldn’t be enough to beat Poole on the night I expect it to be close but the pirates to always be in control. 
 

You would think Masters will need to go unbeaten for Oxford to have any chance. Which could happen, he would do well to beat all of Lawson Rowe Zach and Kerr in one meeting tho. But Masters does get a guaranteed race win in heat 8! 

Also a chance for Kerr to show what he can do in what should be a big home crowd. 

[therefused]

18 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

I don't understand why Schroeck has put r/r at 2. It just means Masters will take his extra ride against the weakest second string & a reserve. Is that really the best use of arguably the best rider in the league?

I suppose if you think you're gonna get thrashed, then it's a good move, putting your best man in the easiest heat to give yourself a better chance of picking up 30 points!

But I would say it's a negative tactic. That being said, I don't think there was any thought put into it, just the usual "r/r always goes at 2" attitude, which a great many managers follow, not just Schroeck.

Simple answer is Schroeck is absolutely clueless 

[foreverblue]

1 hour ago, therefused said:

Simple answer is Schroeck is absolutely clueless 

Bound to make the odd mistake tonight. I cant imagine there is any other team manager who would make the mistake he did at Oxford.

[szkocjasid]

There's no need for a reserve to get a r/r outing, unless they have outperformed a top 5 rider, even then can replace a top 5 rider in their programmed ride.

That being said, I'm kinda expecting Killeen to come out in the first (or second) r/r heat as he seems to be a favourite of Schroeck's (alongside Riss in the Prem).

 

[Arthur54]

34 minutes ago, szkocjasid said:

There's no need for a reserve to get a r/r outing, unless they have outperformed a top 5 rider, even then can replace a top 5 rider in their programmed ride.

That being said, I'm kinda expecting Killeen to come out in the first (or second) r/r heat as he seems to be a favourite of Schroeck's (alongside Riss in the Prem).

 

I'm expecting him to come out in heat 1 , gives him a feel for the track going into heat 2

[szkocjasid]

54 minutes ago, Arthur54 said:

I'm expecting him to come out in heat 1 , gives him a feel for the track going into heat 2

That wouldn't surprise me, but means one of Masters, Jenkins, Knudsen or Gilkes wouldn't get an extra ride. If they all ride better than Killeen, then it's an avoidable mistake.

Normally I'd think a team manager wouldn't make such a silly error, but as it's Schroeck were talking about who knows lol!

[LisaColette]

1 hour ago, szkocjasid said:

That wouldn't surprise me, but means one of Masters, Jenkins, Knudsen or Gilkes wouldn't get an extra ride. If they all ride better than Killeen, then it's an avoidable mistake.

Normally I'd think a team manager wouldn't make such a silly error, but as it's Schroeck were talking about who knows lol!

Tbf Luke Killeen is pretty good at Poole. I wouldn't be surprised if he scored better than Knudsen and Gilkes imo. 

[Gavan]

Killeen should dominate Poole reserves 

Kerr needs to find a performance but Poole should win this easily by 10-15 points 

[szkocjasid]

42 minutes ago, LisaColette said:

Tbf Luke Killeen is pretty good at Poole. I wouldn't be surprised if he scored better than Knudsen and Gilkes imo. 

Me neither, but if Knudsen or Gilkes takes a r/r & then Killeen I'd better, he can replace them twice in their programmed rides. So for that reason I wouldn't use a reserve as r/r in heat one.

I actually like r/r in meetings, more for the terrace team managers to discuss.

[Bagpuss]

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