Edinburgh v Workington Championship KO Cup (1st Leg) 23rd May 2025 7.30pm

[Tinker]

As a neutral, I really enjoyed watching Workington last year. A new team, some young unknown and exciting riders and to be honest, a breath of fresh air. So what has happened, they look like a team of inexperienced/novice riders lacking any spark or excitement. I don't understand it. 

[Neila]

Pavlova at reserve scores more than comets team 🤔 fookin disgrace

[CTD26]

Absolutely pathetic. Glad I never wasted my money on the stream. Some serious soul searching needs to happen over the next 24 hours or somethings going to have to give. Cannot continue getting walloped week in week out.

[Woke23]

1 minute ago, Tinker said:

As a neutral, I really enjoyed watching Workington last year. A new team, some young unknown and exciting riders and to be honest, a breath of fresh air. So what has happened, they look like a team of inexperienced/novice riders lacking any spark or excitement. I don't understand it. 

Tate isn't the same rider as last year but hopefully he picks up soon. 

I feel sorry for Bowes because he really needed his team mates to help him out while he learns the UK tracks. I think he'll do fantastic tomorrow though (I hope).

Vuolas is great but like last year he struggles at most away tracks. 

I think the promotion hoped that Jye would return with new equipment and become the rider of old which hasn't happened.

The reserves will be decent this season. Hook has done okay today and Vinnie would prefer to hug the air fence. However, Vinnie is a fantastic rider and he'll improve.

[LisaColette]

2 minutes ago, Tinker said:

As a neutral, I really enjoyed watching Workington last year. A new team, some young unknown and exciting riders and to be honest, a breath of fresh air. So what has happened, they look like a team of inexperienced/novice riders lacking any spark or excitement. I don't understand it. 

I would like to see what happens on Worky side of the pits during a meeting as the team seems too individual for me. Also too much pressure on Tate when confidence is low, he could do with riding at 2 for a bit. 

[Woke23]

I'm going to be slightly more positive with this reply. Troy after a horrendous two meetings has looked much better today. I honestly thought he was done but he's made this meeting slightly less embarrassing than it could've been.

Hook has also looked decent.

[ruckerroo]

The comets team looks inexperienced at best , ok blasting round big tracks but no idea of anything technical . Batchelor will never ever be the answer at n1 , let alone tothers

[H20]

Embarrassing themselves simple as that

[JanAndersen]

An utterly ridiculous result. Edinburgh are rotten too. 

[SteelShoe]

31 minutes ago, LisaColette said:

I would like to see what happens on Worky side of the pits during a meeting as the team seems too individual for me. Also too much pressure on Tate when confidence is low, he could do with riding at 2 for a bit. 

I think with another strong heat leader in the team Tate may well be at 2 which may take a bit of pressure off him, he his finding consolidation of last seasons pre injury form difficult at the moment.. Ideally Fraser would have started at reserve like the Kennedys at Scunny and McDiarmid at Oxford which would help him find his feet.

It's obvious that the point scoring abilities provided last year by Cookie coupled with the solid away average of Claus Vissing are a big miss. Jye's away performances so far haven't been what has been  required from a rider with his experience while Antti continues to be an enigma on a lot of away tracks which is hard to fathom for a rider who often looks top notch at home. 

At the moment the team is very brittle. I can't see how the current deficiencies will be reversed without an inspired change or 2 in personnel otherwise we will be competing for the wooden spoon.

Tomorrows meeting weather permitting will have more significance than the now near impossible task of achieving a place in the quarter finals of the KO Cup. UTC.

[GM95]

42 minutes ago, JanAndersen said:

An utterly ridiculous result. Edinburgh are rotten too. 

Rotten? We’ve won at Ashfield, ran Berwick and Plymouth close away. Every meeting bar the Glasgow (A) BSN match has been a last heat decider. We gifted Poole the win last week but we are far from rotten.

We’ve got the foundation of a great team, if we can get the Oskar and Max replacements right then we will be challenging.

[JanAndersen]

Just now, GM95 said:

Rotten? We’ve won at Ashfield, ran Berwick and Plymouth close away. Every meeting bar the Glasgow (A) BSN match has been a last heat decider. We gifted Poole the win last week but we are far from rotten.

We’ve got the foundation of a great team, if we can get the Oskar and Max replacements right then we will be challenging.

We’ve got no leadership, they’re all half arsed about it. I can only assume you’ve been drinking if you think we’ve the ‘foundations of a great team”. Big changes needed and I think the management team will make them. 

[singy13]

1 hour ago, CTD26 said:

Absolutely pathetic. Glad I never wasted my money on the stream. Some serious soul searching needs to happen over the next 24 hours or somethings going to have to give. Cannot continue getting walloped week in week out.

After last seasons effort to qualify in a play off berth the current team are nowhere near as solid.

It's a well known fact that speedway followers like a winning team (all sports do I guess) - and as I've mentioned in previous posts fans can be fickle and find alternative ways to rid them of their cash. Workington supporters can be very loyal if the product is good - but oh boy they can be equally disloyal if results like tonight's farcical display continue.

Twice speedway has folded in Workington because fans disappeared and caused promoters plenty of grief. I'm sure the current owners are well aware of the remedial work now required or Comets will struggle to avoid a hat-trick of the sort we all don't want.

[GM95]

15 minutes ago, JanAndersen said:

We’ve got no leadership, they’re all half arsed about it. I can only assume you’ve been drinking if you think we’ve the ‘foundations of a great team”. Big changes needed and I think the management team will make them. 

Whilst we don’t have an out and out number 1, VP and Sedgy are more than capable heat leaders. If we can replace Oskar with another heat leader, backed up by Kye and Paco at 2&4 then that’s a strong top 5. Jonatan is starting to show his potential, and could be at reserve all year. Depending on what route we go down, we could have another strong reserve in beside him… I’d certainly say that is having the foundations of a great team - if we make the right signings. 

[Fromafar]

On 5/22/2025 at 5:21 PM, szkocjasid said:

Think it's far too big a jump for Mark Parker, without meaning to sound harsh, using Parker sound like Monarchs have given up on the tie.

Got that one wrong.🤔

[Fromafar]

2 hours ago, CTD26 said:

Absolutely pathetic. Glad I never wasted my money on the stream. Some serious soul searching needs to happen over the next 24 hours or somethings going to have to give. Cannot continue getting walloped week in week out.

I thought Worky looked suspect at the start of the season .Its looking grim now.Voulas and Ziske are struggling and they were relying on them showing a big improvement .IMO

[Monarchs2468]

How refreshing to see Kye gating well again tonight, along with passing from the back. Also very pleasing to see Jonatan's confidence visibly go up in each race. Well done Monarchs, a nice surprise tonight.

Also good too see Jacob doing well tonight. Always liked him as a Monarch. 

Hopefully Tate can get back to full confidence/fitness soon.

[Mr Blobby]

Unsure how to describe tonight other than a massacre. 
 

Worky possibly the worst side I can remember seeing at Armadale in a very long time. Looked like complete novices. 
 

Well done to Vinnie for finally managing to do more than a corner at his third attempt. 

[szkocjasid]

On 5/22/2025 at 5:21 PM, szkocjasid said:

Think it's far too big a jump for Mark Parker, without meaning to sound harsh, using Parker sound like Monarchs have given up on the tie.

 

56 minutes ago, Fromafar said:

Got that one wrong.🤔

I stand by what I said, my point was that Parker is far from Champ standard & I couldn't believe there weren't stronger options available for the team?

That is where I felt Monarchs weren't giving their all, for example I could never imagine a team like Poole with their winning mentality, settling for a 3.00 NL reserve in their team.

Parker did exactly what I expected, only beat a non-finisher. Well done to Mark for doing that though.

Delighted for the middle order pairing, feel some of the criticism they've received has been too harsh. Two good scores against weaker opposition, can they continue against the leagues stronger sides?

[szkocjasid]

4 hours ago, Neila said:

Pray for a monsoon and call it off

I think that will work against them. Many fans will have planned to go & despite the drubbling, turn up because they had no other plans anyway.

If it's postponed, then may be harder to get a decent crowd due to the first leg score & wouldn't have the advantage of people having already planned to go?