Bagpuss Posted Tuesday at 08:57 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 08:57 AM 49 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Championship racing on BSN has been the better racing.IMO Better tracks....apart from BV the Prem doesn't have an awful lot. Champ has Glasgow, Worky, Scunny, Redcar which are all very good. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted Tuesday at 08:58 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 08:58 AM 49 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Championship racing on BSN has been the better racing.IMO I think its the better league, at least theres variety and the British final proved you dont need the top riders to provide good racing only two riders in that final were world class. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wollyhat Posted Tuesday at 09:22 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 09:22 AM They say that lightning doesn't strike twice in the the same place. It did at Leicester. As a Sheffield supporter i have to take my hat off to the lions. They took us apart twice in two weeks. But I have to make some observations, not complaints, on what I have seen in the last week. I had never been to Leicester before last week and I must say that I think that it is a gaters track, having said that, having said that to say that there was no passing is not true it is just that it is done in the 30yards comming out of bend 2. Every time the Sheffield riders were in point scoring positions they were passed with some amasing acelerations from the home riders.This must be down to engine set up. I have been around the sport long enough to know that youu can build an engine that will fly on a specific track. I think that that is what the Lions riders have done. The other thing that I noted was the fact that it seemed impossible to ride the wide line. I think that 95% of the racing was done on the inside 30% of the track. This must be down to the track shape and the camber of the corners. Unfortunately this does not lend itself to producing spectical. I must admit the we are spoiled at Sheffield with riders scrapeing the fence every week but it does get exiting. This is not a moan about getting beaten just a few observations. The riders are professionals and shoulld be able to make adjustments to get the best out their equipment. As for them being too friendly, theirs is a very small community and they see each other week in and week out. Add to that there are some very strong friendships away from the track. All that I and everyone else asks is that the gloves come off as they go to the tapes. Having confidence in your fellow riders is an important part of the sport. Once again well done Leicester on two great demolition jobs. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted Tuesday at 09:41 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 09:41 AM 13 hours ago, IainB said: ... and the Leicester crowd goes wild 😴 They're facing the best direction too 🤪 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheese Posted Tuesday at 09:56 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 09:56 AM 3 hours ago, orion said: Even it's heyday riders mixed with other. In Gps riders watch races together etc .in Poland over the weekend riders were mixing together.. its always been the same. You must have missed the 500 million IPL viewers turning away from cricket because opposition players sometimes have a laugh with each other. Darts rapidly increasing in popularity? Fake news. Nobody's interested because the players are too friendly during matches. And as for PL football. A sharp decrease in interest because of all the hugging before and after matches, discussions on the pitch, subs from opposition sides having conversations whilst warming up, managers sharing a joke etc. Or maybe they just take no notice because it happens everywhere. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJA Posted Tuesday at 09:56 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 09:56 AM 32 minutes ago, Wollyhat said: They say that lightning doesn't strike twice in the the same place. It did at Leicester. As a Sheffield supporter i have to take my hat off to the lions. They took us apart twice in two weeks. But I have to make some observations, not complaints, on what I have seen in the last week. I had never been to Leicester before last week and I must say that I think that it is a gaters track, having said that, having said that to say that there was no passing is not true it is just that it is done in the 30yards comming out of bend 2. Every time the Sheffield riders were in point scoring positions they were passed with some amasing acelerations from the home riders.This must be down to engine set up. I have been around the sport long enough to know that youu can build an engine that will fly on a specific track. I think that that is what the Lions riders have done. The other thing that I noted was the fact that it seemed impossible to ride the wide line. I think that 95% of the racing was done on the inside 30% of the track. This must be down to the track shape and the camber of the corners. Unfortunately this does not lend itself to producing spectical. I must admit the we are spoiled at Sheffield with riders scrapeing the fence every week but it does get exiting. This is not a moan about getting beaten just a few observations. The riders are professionals and shoulld be able to make adjustments to get the best out their equipment. As for them being too friendly, theirs is a very small community and they see each other week in and week out. Add to that there are some very strong friendships away from the track. All that I and everyone else asks is that the gloves come off as they go to the tapes. Having confidence in your fellow riders is an important part of the sport. Once again well done Leicester on two great demolition jobs. Watched last night on the TV but the previous week's meeting in the stadium and I thought the outside line worked well, and was used to great effect by Pickering last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted Tuesday at 09:58 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 09:58 AM On 6/8/2025 at 8:37 PM, IainB said: Tim Brennan? Twin Brennan 😊 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40-38 Posted Tuesday at 10:19 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 10:19 AM 20 minutes ago, SJA said: Watched last night on the TV but the previous week's meeting in the stadium and I thought the outside line worked well, and was used to great effect by Pickering last week. I think it can work if you have riders like Pickering who are willing to attack it. It certainly didn't help the racing that Sheffield were just so poor, especially from the gate and were just team ridden out for 4 laps in many heats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted Tuesday at 11:38 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 11:38 AM 1 hour ago, The Cheese said: You must have missed the 500 million IPL viewers turning away from cricket because opposition players sometimes have a laugh with each other. Darts rapidly increasing in popularity? Fake news. Nobody's interested because the players are too friendly during matches. And as for PL football. A sharp decrease in interest because of all the hugging before and after matches, discussions on the pitch, subs from opposition sides having conversations whilst warming up, managers sharing a joke etc. Or maybe they just take no notice because it happens everywhere. I was watching the French Open final on Sunday the Players were having a laugh with each other during the match..I quickly switch off along with the 100 million world wide to go on the Speedway Forum to see if anyone had made comment on it. I won't watching Tennis again that's for sure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedwaysliders Posted Tuesday at 12:01 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 12:01 PM OK so i get everyones views that they dont mind riders mixing and having a laugh with their rivals,so when the racing isnt that good how do we make it a bit more cutting edge with a bit of spice to the meeting.The only rider in this meeting to show any zest for wanting to mix it with rivals was Josh Pickering who was busting a gut at least having a go.How do we get everyone busting a gut if its all toooooooooooo friendly? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted Tuesday at 12:04 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 12:04 PM 2 hours ago, Bagpuss said: Better tracks....apart from BV the Prem doesn't have an awful lot. Champ has Glasgow, Worky, Scunny, Redcar which are all very good. I actually think that the tracks are what set the Polish and Swedish racing apart from the UK.. As we see, the racing at certain tracks already named can be very good, so the level of most riders, whilst not as top level as elsewhere, can produce some great stuff to watch.. Which I think is down to the riders having complete faith in certain tracks, their preparation, shale and surface presentation.. On these tracks they ride closer to each other as they won't be thinking "this could throw me off", or "I need to focus more on the guy in front, rather than racing him, as he could lose it on this track" Leicester last night has lots of the usual UK stuff of four lads riding equal distance apart but no one trying to do anything to put themselves at potential risk, instead they, as often happens, settled for their positions well before lap four.. Tom excepted of course as he desperately wanted that point his team mate had..! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted Tuesday at 12:06 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 12:06 PM 21 minutes ago, orion said: I was watching the French Open final on Sunday the Players were having a laugh with each other during the match..I quickly switch off along with the 100 million world wide to go on the Speedway Forum to see if anyone had made comment on it. I won't watching Tennis again that's for sure To increase the interest and entertainment, there should be arm-wrestling contests between riders based on their riding numbers, with Scott Nicholls refereeing. If a team is using r/r for a team place, the team manager should be the substitute. 7 contests would produce a winning team, with a separate league table running through the season. They could run a darts league as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted Tuesday at 12:09 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 12:09 PM 3 hours ago, ShanoXtra said: Nah I’m not saying it was amazing speedway, but I think British speedway and English people are really negative. For one positive post here you’ll see ten negative. It isn’t Polish speedway, we don’t have tracks, riders, stadia, facilities, money etc here in Britain. It is what it is, with the above mentioned and the fact the guesting system is flawed (I was annoyed that Brennan was helping our rivals!) we just have to take whatever we have and try and make it work. All I’m saying is at least we still have speedway, people can be moa about it all they want, but you’ll be moaning more in 10 years when the sport doesn’t exist here, like all things in life, enjoy it whilst it’s here. Like you say”it is what it is”.Unfortunately deteriorating.IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted Tuesday at 01:28 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 01:28 PM 1 hour ago, Hamish McRaker said: To increase the interest and entertainment, there should be arm-wrestling contests between riders based on their riding numbers, with Scott Nicholls refereeing. If a team is using r/r for a team place, the team manager should be the substitute. 7 contests would produce a winning team, with a separate league table running through the season. They could run a darts league as well. I think that could be the way forward. As long as no one laughs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackett Posted Tuesday at 04:20 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 04:20 PM Tough night for the Tigers but the Lions were excellent with only Joe Thompson missing out. Tigers nobody could get the set up right or get out of the starts. Pickering had a go without getting any fresh air. Kerr and Rowe struggled. Guest Tom Brennan was always going to be up against it replicating Holder's form but apart from 2 race wins lacked pace. Lions fully deserved the victory. Fricke a class f his own last night - Fairplay 18pt MAXIMUM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hunter Posted Tuesday at 05:10 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 05:10 PM 43 minutes ago, Hackett said: Tough night for the Tigers but the Lions were excellent with only Joe Thompson missing out. Tigers nobody could get the set up right or get out of the starts. Pickering had a go without getting any fresh air. Kerr and Rowe struggled. Guest Tom Brennan was always going to be up against it replicating Holder's form but apart from 2 race wins lacked pace. Lions fully deserved the victory. Fricke a class f his own last night - Fairplay 18pt MAXIMUM I was at the meeting and watched the stream this afternoon on Discovery+. When Chris Holder was interviewed he said the track was good. He also said the problem the Tigers riders had was that none of them could get their set ups right so they were all doing their own thing to try and improve things. Brennan and Pickering had obviously found something that worked late on in the meeting. None of the riders I saw interviewed had any complaints about the track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted Tuesday at 06:23 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 06:23 PM Interesting post on Facebook today, given many of the comments above! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted Tuesday at 06:54 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 06:54 PM 1 hour ago, Happy Hunter said: I was at the meeting and watched the stream this afternoon on Discovery+. When Chris Holder was interviewed he said the track was good. He also said the problem the Tigers riders had was that none of them could get their set ups right so they were all doing their own thing to try and improve things. Brennan and Pickering had obviously found something that worked late on in the meeting. None of the riders I saw interviewed had any complaints about the track. They don't pay or tune in to watch it ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teromaafan Posted Tuesday at 08:08 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 08:08 PM 44 minutes ago, Roger Jacobs said: They don't pay or tune in to watch it ... No, but their performance does affect what they get paid. To be fair to the Tigers riders and manager, they were very honest in their interviews in the pits and made no excuses for what was going on. How many times in this forum do posters go on about gate and go, riders spaced out, no passing etc, all pointing at the track preparation/design/shape etc. Just in case some people haven’t realised, the ability to make good starts away from the tapes is the most important requirement in a riders skill set. It always has been and always will be at all levels of the sport. Riders have to take that on board and do whatever is necessary in terms of practice and set ups. As professional sportsman, riders will take earnings from points over entertaining every time. As much as we all love Bomber, he’d definitely take more consistently trapping over picking his way through from the back. Regardless of the track, believe it or not, it’s the same for all riders. The better riders will always prosper due to their ability and mindset. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hunter Posted Tuesday at 09:19 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 09:19 PM 2 hours ago, Roger Jacobs said: They don't pay or tune in to watch it ... No, but they are the ones who put their lives on the line for our entertainment and would soon say something if the track was bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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