Roger Jacobs Posted July 18 Report Share Posted July 18 28 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: A point worth making about heat 14 last night though is that the reason there was no contact is purely down to self preservation from Dan T Should you have to take a hit from an incoming missile in order to benefit from exclusion decision? Certainly being in one piece is far more important than the result....... He left such a gap - I think he should have turned earlier, and Kerr wouldn’t have had the opportunity. As we saw from several riders, the wider area provided nothing by way of grip - it was only if they stuck their back wheel on the inner edge of the dirt line. Maybe Thompson was aiming for that, Kerr simply dived under him and negotiated the bend quite easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted July 18 Report Share Posted July 18 7 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: The question was could his 3rd ride be heat 15 - being refused a switch in 13 was never an issue Personally I have no doubt Rob Lyon knew the answer and it was mo more than a well timed piece of gamesmanship from a wily old campaigner! The worrying part is the fact referee didn't seem to know such a basic regulation off pat! Rob's actions and use to make the most of the reserve across both legs made a significant contribution to the result - particularly manipulating a Kvech win in heat 8 of the first leg........ Good luck to Lynn in the final I am inclined to agree that it was a bit of gaming from Lyon - the ref in the other hand should have known - even I sodding knew and I have never even read the rule book!! what people have also overlooked is it gets the KL / Ipswich rivalry, which had been really one sided of late back, to a more even footing which can only been good for the sport - a few boos a a panto villain in Kerr and Rob Lyon playing silly beggars over a rule!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin bass Posted July 18 Report Share Posted July 18 Well young Dan must of picked up a knock last night because he's not riding for Glasgow 2night because of a knee injury. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted July 18 Report Share Posted July 18 54 minutes ago, Roger Jacobs said: He left such a gap - I think he should have turned earlier, and Kerr wouldn’t have had the opportunity. As we saw from several riders, the wider area provided nothing by way of grip - it was only if they stuck their back wheel on the inner edge of the dirt line. Maybe Thompson was aiming for that, Kerr simply dived under him and negotiated the bend quite easily. Totally agree, and it was an error on Dan’s part. Such a shame because after a poor night, you could see the determination to do it for his team in that heat and he done fantastically well to overtake Kerr in the first instance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 18 Report Share Posted July 18 1 hour ago, Roger Jacobs said: He left such a gap - I think he should have turned earlier, and Kerr wouldn’t have had the opportunity. As we saw from several riders, the wider area provided nothing by way of grip - it was only if they stuck their back wheel on the inner edge of the dirt line. Maybe Thompson was aiming for that, Kerr simply dived under him and negotiated the bend quite easily. If he had turned earlier surely all that is happening is that Kerr is wiping him out! Could Kerr have pulled out of that move he had committed to? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 (edited) 11 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: If he had turned earlier surely all that is happening is that Kerr is wiping him out! Could Kerr have pulled out of that move he had committed to? Yes is the simple answer. Dan left enough room for a double decker bus and Kerr went through it. There were several people up in the box and every single one of us knew that it was over as soon as Dan hit the deck and that he was getting excluded. There really is no argument to be had here. The only slight doubt was that the referee might be a “Homer” and wrongfully exclude Kerr. Edited July 19 by Aries 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 12 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: If he had turned earlier surely all that is happening is that Kerr is wiping him out! Could Kerr have pulled out of that move he had committed to? Nicki P made it his MO to take contact and then slide serenely to the base of the fence... And then lie on the track for ten minutes whilst his mechanics checked his bike over in the pits... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 17 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: If he had turned earlier surely all that is happening is that Kerr is wiping him out! Could Kerr have pulled out of that move he had committed to? No idea, but you often see riders “cutting the nose off” the rider behind. It turns out Thompson has been suffering with an ear infection - he pulled out of Glasgow’s match on Friday - I wonder if that had any effect on his perception, thoughts, balance? Oh well - as said by many, the Witches should never have been in that position. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 Just watched the meeting back on YouTube. and there was even a bigger gap than I thought on the video. Correct decision by the ref 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 https://youtu.be/MuGyjjfdysQ?si=zU-9wjkd78Ko--UE 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 53 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: Just watched the meeting back on YouTube. and there was even a bigger gap than I thought on the video. Correct decision by the ref 53 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: https://youtu.be/MuGyjjfdysQ?si=zU-9wjkd78Ko--UE Yep it was quite clearly a fair move, but in the context of the meeting situation and Thompson going down you can understand why some Ippo fans didn't like it seeing it in real time, would have been exactly the same at Lynn in reverse. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 58 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: https://youtu.be/MuGyjjfdysQ?si=zU-9wjkd78Ko--UE Laughable that anyone thinks Kerr was at fault for that 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 1 hour ago, therefused said: Laughable that anyone thinks Kerr was at fault for that It's the reaction of the fans, with everything at stake. I suggested they consider their reaction if it had been a Witch making such a pass a Star, and the Witch had been excluded ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperStarsFan91 Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 2 hours ago, therefused said: Laughable that anyone thinks Kerr was at fault for that Exactly, there was a MASSIVE gap and there was no contact whatsoever! Great move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted July 20 Report Share Posted July 20 I think I was one of the first, of not the first saying the move was okay and that Witches fans would see it that way if it was their rider doing it. Glad to see a video proving me right. I'm a witches follower that doesn't wear Rose tinted glasses 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted July 20 Report Share Posted July 20 On 7/19/2025 at 12:55 PM, PhilTheAce said: Just watched the meeting back on YouTube. and there was even a bigger gap than I thought on the video. Correct decision by the ref Yeah, nothing wrong what that move at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted July 21 Report Share Posted July 21 I was stood on the first bend & because of the air fence I couldn’t see the gap. After watching the clip on line it’s clear the referee got it 100% correct. The terraces given Kerr a hard time & booing was totally understandable given what was a stake. If it had been the other way round & at Saddlebow Road the Lynn fans would have done the same. It shows passion from the supporters, adds atmosphere & provided a massive talking point. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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