Wroclaw GP round 9 Saturday 30th August

[Fromafar]

Why so much water put on track at intervals.Just creates a race line about 6” from the fence most of the time.If the rider gets into the 3rd turn without being dive bombed it’s just get on to the outside line.Certainly make passing at a premium.Bartosz is the exception.!!

[Fromafar]

8 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

He always looked faster because nobody does or has ever raced a speedway bike like zmarzlik, there are quite a few riders lighter than zmarzlik, zmarzlik is by quite a distance better than any rider in history, that’s not to say he isn’t beatable and it’s not just in GPs either, the guys will to win in any event anywhere is untouchable

He was certainly the best rider on show last night.

[IainB]

3 hours ago, Fromafar said:

Why so much water put on track at intervals.

To stop the crowd getting covered in dust, unlike in this country, they seem to not want their punters to go home 50 shades darker 🧒🏿 than when they arrived 🧒🏼

[Fromafar]

2 hours ago, IainB said:

To stop the crowd getting covered in dust, unlike in this country, they seem to not want their punters to go home 50 shades darker 🧒🏿 than when they arrived 🧒🏼

I said so much.If you watch Polish Matches they water the track every 3-4 heats but it is not a skating rink the next race.!!

[IainB]

4 minutes ago, Fromafar said:

I said so much.If you watch Polish Matches they water the track every 3-4 heats but it is not a skating rink the next race.!!

It was a bit excessive wasn't it 🚜💦

[FAST GATER]

13 hours ago, Fromafar said:

He was certainly the best rider on show last night.

Only beaten by the " Hancock Method " make the gate on a quick bike  and hope the other two riders hold BZ  up long enough for you to win !

 

[THE DEAN MACHINE]

8 hours ago, Fromafar said:

I said so much.If you watch Polish Matches they water the track every 3-4 heats but it is not a skating rink the next race.!!

To be honest we were covered in dust from heat 1 in gorzow last night

[Shockster]

I went on Saturday and from where I was (3rd bend) it never looked overly wet.  See a lot on social media and on here about it, but to my eye it looked ok?

Love Wroclaw for the weekend, love the track and the atmosphere was fantastic. 👍

[Odds On]

at least this GP must be up for a reward, most boring GP this season....absolute borefest....however there is still one to go Vojens, now this could quite easily take the award.

 On a serious note, does no one in power of the GP's look back in the debrief and think yep we fekked that up?

[ShanoXtra]

9 hours ago, Fromafar said:

I said so much.If you watch Polish Matches they water the track every 3-4 heats but it is not a skating rink the next race.!!

I’d tend to disagree, many Polish matches are dry and they don’t water the track half as much as GPs. I’ve watched multiple matches live in Poland this season and they are always dusty.

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[SPEEDY69]

The shale seems to be very powdery so when wet it will be very slick - even slicker than normal which is saying something.  Chris called it right, on these types of track the speed of the bike is the biggest factor in race wins because everyone rides them full throttle - now that might sound obvious but it's not always been that way.  Looking at older races from yesteryear the tracks generally were much bumpier and the outside was for the bravest only as most riders would get into difficulty with the heavy shale.  It's got too fast for its own good and the engine builders/tuners haven't helped.  Nowadays if someone falls off because they 'took off' when hitting the grip near the fence, the solution, instead of riders avoiding that, is to slicken the track and make it easier to ride so it continues to be slicker and slicker.   

[Fromafar]

1 hour ago, ShanoXtra said:

I’d tend to disagree, many Polish matches are dry and they don’t water the track half as much as GPs. I’ve watched multiple matches live in Poland this season and they are always dusty.

You get decent racing though,not a one line track.

[THE DEAN MACHINE]

2 hours ago, SPEEDY69 said:

The shale seems to be very powdery so when wet it will be very slick - even slicker than normal which is saying something.  Chris called it right, on these types of track the speed of the bike is the biggest factor in race wins because everyone rides them full throttle - now that might sound obvious but it's not always been that way.  Looking at older races from yesteryear the tracks generally were much bumpier and the outside was for the bravest only as most riders would get into difficulty with the heavy shale.  It's got too fast for its own good and the engine builders/tuners haven't helped.  Nowadays if someone falls off because they 'took off' when hitting the grip near the fence, the solution, instead of riders avoiding that, is to slicken the track and make it easier to ride so it continues to be slicker and slicker.   

In 2026 they are using a harder compound tyre in the extraleague which will in theory give the bikes less grip so engines will have to get de tuned to get more forward momentum, sounds good in practice and I hope this has been tested out and not just brought in and we have a situation like the solid block fiasco 

[SPEEDY69]

5 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

In 2026 they are using a harder compound tyre in the extraleague which will in theory give the bikes less grip so engines will have to get de tuned to get more forward momentum, sounds good in practice and I hope this has been tested out and not just brought in and we have a situation like the solid block fiasco 

My old 897 may stand a chance then, happy days!

 

[therefused]

On 8/31/2025 at 9:40 AM, Rickyag said:

Cheerio Kvech, hope you don`t get a wild card next year

agreed, shouldnt have had one this year either 👍

[THE DEAN MACHINE]

33 minutes ago, therefused said:

agreed, shouldnt have had one this year either 👍

I agree he shouldn’t of got one but I don’t think he has disgraced himself, has had some good race wins along the way 

[FAST GATER]

32 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

I agree he shouldn’t of got one but I don’t think he has disgraced himself, has had some good race wins along the way 

Would you give Doyle or Tai get one  ? 

[SPEEDY69]

50 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

I agree he shouldn’t of got one but I don’t think he has disgraced himself, has had some good race wins along the way 

And has done better that Vaculik, who some seem to want in the series again.

[therefused]

52 minutes ago, FAST GATER said:

Would you give Doyle or Tai get one  ? 

I wouldnt personally. 

 

1 hour ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

I agree he shouldn’t of got one but I don’t think he has disgraced himself, has had some good race wins along the way 

agreed, dont think a year away from the GPs would do him much harm as hes still young and it might give him some incentive to qualify on merit for 27.