POOLE V REDCAR PLAY OFF SEMI FINAL IST LEG, - TUESDAY 9TH SEPTEMBER.

[Steve Shovlar]

2 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

Can't understand these points, if Poole are as bad as you've made out, how did they finish 2nd in the qualifying league?

Would a terrible team not be fighting Scunthorpe for the wooden spoon?

Besides this team could still win the treble!

It’s about expectation. Poole are expected to be at the top but I understand your point. Yes we could clean up, though not likely. Watching this years Poole team has been a struggle. Where is the flair? Yes the team has come second but the racing the majority of the time has been flat and a bit lacklustre. Only Richard Lawson nd Anders Rowe have excited. Cook has blown hot and cold and the rest a bit meh.

[Youhave2minutes]

3 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

It’s about expectation. Poole are expected to be at the top but I understand your point. Yes we could clean up, though not likely. Watching this years Poole team has been a struggle. Where is the flair? Yes the team has come second but the racing the majority of the time has been flat and a bit lacklustre. Only Richard Lawson nd Anders Rowe have excited. Cook has blown hot and cold and the rest a bit meh.

Think yourself lucky you finished second. Cut out the moaning. Lots of other clubs would love to swap places with that position. If Poole have had an underpar season just feel sorry for all the other clubs who are below them in the table.

[Steve Shovlar]

2 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

Personally I think was unnecessary, he was signed on a 2.00 average so no surprise he'll score 2 points (or less) in some matches.

Obviously shows he has great belief in himself because he expects more of himself, but just hope he doesn't put too much pressure on his own shoulders.

Maybe that's an issue with Poole, fans, riders & management all expect to win. Rides going to a team that generally struggles, probably won't have the same pressure on them?

Agree with that. If there’s no pressure on riders at Poole, where is there pressure? Poland of course where it’s ruthless and has led to suicides in the past.  But no one is putting any pressure on Cairns more than himself. He clearly has ambition and huge drive to succeed. The fans don’t put pressure on him as he’s a young lad in the genesis of his career. I remember Lee Richardson when he joined us. 0,0,0..  but he came good. Exceptional in fact.

[SteveLyric2]

31 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

It’s about expectation. Poole are expected to be at the top but I understand your point. Yes we could clean up, though not likely. Watching this years Poole team has been a struggle. Where is the flair? Yes the team has come second but the racing the majority of the time has been flat and a bit lacklustre. Only Richard Lawson nd Anders Rowe have excited. Cook has blown hot and cold and the rest a bit meh.

Disagree with this 100%. Yes there are always expectations but you can't compare one season to another with different 1-7s all due to changing points limits! We are in the final stages of all 3 competitions which is one of this seasons targets already achieved. Onwards and upwards. I do think we'll still see definitely 3 - possibly 4 - of this year's team in 2026. That is of course depending on the final league set-up.

[Col]

1 hour ago, tyretrax said:

Great idea, send all the up and coming riders to Poland. Britain can just be a feeder country for Polish speedway. 

Worked for Lambert, Bewley... tine will tell whether it will for Brennan.  Did I suggest Rowe stopped riding in the British top tier?

[Fromafar]

9 hours ago, ONTWOMINUTES said:

At least ashton had a good go and did well,  unlike many many riders that plug away each season and never improve. 

He did well.!! Showed he had talent.But couldn’t hack it.Done the right thing though,it not a sport to mess around in.

[Paddy The Rebel]

On 9/17/2025 at 4:48 PM, Steve Shovlar said:

It’s about expectation. Poole are expected to be at the top but I understand your point. Yes we could clean up, though not likely. Watching this years Poole team has been a struggle. Where is the flair? Yes the team has come second but the racing the majority of the time has been flat and a bit lacklustre. Only Richard Lawson nd Anders Rowe have excited. Cook has blown hot and cold and the rest a bit meh.

Well summed up there tbh this year we have been no where near as convincing as last year too many inconsistency in this years team,think I’m expecting a young exciting team next year .

with rumours that I’ve seen could be 

Lawson

Rowe

Beau Bailey 

Cairns

Rushen

Don’t want Cook and Kerr think we need a clean slate Cook has been with us for years and he needs to move on or Poole move him on feel he focuses on top flight more and he’s never been a double figure performer for us and Kerr just to unreliable for me. 
 

Thomsen has improved this year but feel like there’s not loads of improvement there maybe another 0.50 but that’s it.

Saying all of that we will need to find a middle order rider will be interesting to see how we go as it’s definitely an opportunity for Poole management to freshen things up next year.

 

[LisaColette]

Can't see Zach going unless that is what he wants. A lot will depend on points available. 

[SteveLyric2]

9 hours ago, Paddy The Rebel said:

Well summed up there tbh this year we have been no where near as convincing as last year too many inconsistency in this years team,think I’m expecting a young exciting team next year .

with rumours that I’ve seen could be 

Lawson

Rowe

Beau Bailey 

Cairns

Rushen

Don’t want Cook and Kerr think we need a clean slate Cook has been with us for years and he needs to move on or Poole move him on feel he focuses on top flight more and he’s never been a double figure performer for us and Kerr just to unreliable for me. 
 

Thomsen has improved this year but feel like there’s not loads of improvement there maybe another 0.50 but that’s it.

Saying all of that we will need to find a middle order rider will be interesting to see how we go as it’s definitely an opportunity for Poole management to freshen things up next year.

 

Zach won't be going anywhere. Tobias likely riding in Danish senior league next year ie Wednesdays. It still depends on the final decision of the league set up, number of riders per team and points limit.

[ragdoll64]

3 hours ago, SteveLyric2 said:

Zach won't be going anywhere. Tobias likely riding in Danish senior league next year ie Wednesdays. It still depends on the final decision of the league set up, number of riders per team and points limit.

No point in speculating until the boffins decide what mess they’re going to make of speedway next season 🙄 🤪

[SteveLyric2]

29 minutes ago, ragdoll64 said:

No point in speculating until the boffins decide what mess they’re going to make of speedway next season 🙄 🤪

..and as we all know whatever has been discussed and 'agreed' at their monthly meetings, can all be changed at the BSPL AGM.

[mac101]

2 hours ago, SteveLyric2 said:

..and as we all know whatever has been discussed and 'agreed' at their monthly meetings, can all be changed at the BSPL AGM.

From what I hear they want to drop the points limit again 

[SteveLyric2]

36 minutes ago, mac101 said:

From what I hear they want to drop the points limit again 

Understandable if its 6 man teams!?

[Catalan]

11 hours ago, SteveLyric2 said:

Zach won't be going anywhere. Tobias likely riding in Danish senior league next year ie Wednesdays. It still depends on the final decision of the league set up, number of riders per team and points limit.

From what I can gather ball is in Zach's court

[ASpeedwayfan]

21 hours ago, Paddy The Rebel said:

Well summed up there tbh this year we have been no where near as convincing as last year too many inconsistency in this years team,think I’m expecting a young exciting team next year .

with rumours that I’ve seen could be 

Lawson

Rowe

Beau Bailey 

Cairns

Rushen

Don’t want Cook and Kerr think we need a clean slate Cook has been with us for years and he needs to move on or Poole move him on feel he focuses on top flight more and he’s never been a double figure performer for us and Kerr just to unreliable for me. 
 

Thomsen has improved this year but feel like there’s not loads of improvement there maybe another 0.50 but that’s it.

Saying all of that we will need to find a middle order rider will be interesting to see how we go as it’s definitely an opportunity for Poole management to freshen things up next year.

 

Would be very happy with them 5 mentioned. Then all it would be is finding a reliable 3 and 4. Or potentially going big on a 3 and another gamble at 4. 
worked for Poole in the past having a big 1 3 5. Cairns and Rushen will be an exciting reserve partnership but both will be capable of 0, 0, 0. 
Hagon on a 3.33 would be on my radar, I wonder if he’s doing Australia again once he recovers from his injury 

 

[LisaColette]

Our 6 point win looks pretty good right now seeing the score from tonight at Glasgow. 

[tyler42]

55 minutes ago, ASpeedwayfan said:

Hagon on a 3.33 would be on my radar, I

Except his average is lower that Cairns. So Cairns would have to start in the main body, which i don't thing The Fords would want. There dream reserve pairing will be Cairns and Rushen. 

 

[MD]

8 hours ago, mac101 said:

From what I hear they want to drop the points limit again 

Absolutely, dilute the product further, the fans will definitely go for it. What next, monthly meetings, three lap races, the 13 heat formula! #FFS

[STEVEHOLS54]

14 hours ago, ASpeedwayfan said:

Would be very happy with them 5 mentioned. Then all it would be is finding a reliable 3 and 4. Or potentially going big on a 3 and another gamble at 4. 
worked for Poole in the past having a big 1 3 5. Cairns and Rushen will be an exciting reserve partnership but both will be capable of 0, 0, 0. 
Hagon on a 3.33 would be on my radar, I wonder if he’s doing Australia again once he recovers from his injury 

 

I think Nick Morris would be a steal for Poole in 2026 at his current GSA as of 1/9 at 6.62 or even his British Speedway 2025 av of 6.76 from 7 matches since his return from that long ban.

His finishing GSA for 2023 (his last season before ban) was 8.82 for Birmingham. he has been riding himself back to fitness and his current GSA is arguably 2 points below his potential and still only 31.

I reckon he will be in demand but being Southern based (Swindon way ??) he will be in demand. Saying that probably find that Oxford will go for him if they keep current format in Champ in 2026.

[Hilly]

1 hour ago, STEVEHOLS54 said:

I think Nick Morris would be a steal for Poole in 2026 at his current GSA as of 1/9 at 6.62 or even his British Speedway 2025 av of 6.76 from 7 matches since his return from that long ban.

His finishing GSA for 2023 (his last season before ban) was 8.82 for Birmingham. he has been riding himself back to fitness and his current GSA is arguably 2 points below his potential and still only 31.

I reckon he will be in demand but being Southern based (Swindon way ??) he will be in demand. Saying that probably find that Oxford will go for him if they keep current format in Champ in 2026.

Morris on his average is likely to be able to pick where he wants to ride, can't imagine any team saying no thanks on that average.