gjcone44 Posted October 4 Report Share Posted October 4 it is a very simple idea, but complicated to get people and riders to agree to it.. but would be a great leveller, for the riders who dont have the big budgets that some of the top riders have, but it would be a great way to reset the British speedway leagues, this could 7 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: It’s a simple idea but not simple to implement, there are factors like engines, finding a happy medium of what different riders would accept, you can’t just put a standard engine in and expect someone who is built like Dan bewley to ride the same engine as someone like matej zagar, there has to be a compromise between the 2, meet half way if you like,who supplies the engines ? and who services them? there are a whole variety of factors that are not obvious to the general fan but I believe it can be done but not overnight, it’s needs to be floated now and use 2026 to test and iron out the problems with 2027 to roll it out, it won’t happen though thats why i said complicated., costs are the problem with speedway at our level of support , but probably cheapest way to restart, good luck with what ever you can come up with, 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enotian Posted October 4 Report Share Posted October 4 9 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: I have a plan around that very basic Idea but it has a lot more detail and and overcomes a lot of the issues that arise from the concept of outsourcing the equipment from the riders,I have spent a few months working on it, talking to some people in the sport who understand the workings of the concept, I am planning to float it on a podcast soon but I’m sceptical it will fly not because it’s a bad idea but because to get anything going in speedway someone has to be making money from it certainly has the potential to resolve the lack of riders problem. you can imagine a few 'retired' racers would consider comebacks if they aren't required to take the risk of investing in a bike and engine. could even reduce costs if the procurement is centralised. ie for the bikes engines and tuning. got to be cheaper than individual riders each agreeing their own suppliers. also you could share the equipment across a number of tracks ie Edinburgh Friday, Berwick Saturday and Glasgow Sunday. this is also how someone makes money out of it. ie instead of say 10 tuners profiting from 10 riders each you get to say 2 tuners profiting from 50 riders, standard scale stuff. same with engine suppliers, tyres, mechanics even etc etc. you potentially move the cash outlay for the promoters to pre season when they've not had any (maybe sponsorship?) income but as I understand it plenty of riders receive a sign on fee for these purposes anyway, which would no longer be required. it sounds a bit like the sustainable future for a 2nd tier does this and don't they have a load of Gerhardt engines just sitting there collecting dust? your problem would be how do rider progress from using supplied equipment and support to being able to compete internationally or in the top league but I guess that's no different from a rider deciding if they want to invest in top level equipment now. at least they'd have a choice having perhaps impressed and earned some money from 2nd tier racing. it would also definitely facilitate the use of top tier tracks in an expanded 2nd tier. happy to help if you need any help on that procurement generating value for money point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted October 12 Report Share Posted October 12 Hoping we can retain the top stars and the fabulous entertainment they bring. Who can topple Sheffield off the top spot they have made their own with three tops in four seasons. Incredible to think the only time they didn’t top the table, they were worthy winners of the play off cup. The battle continues between the tigers and The Aces for team of the decade. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted October 12 Report Share Posted October 12 This conversation should have started last year for 2026 and even then thats late, whatever is put forward which might even be a good idea its all too late. 2026 has already been decided and we must now all wait for what that will bring. The issue with the prem has been known for a long while especially regarding Birmingham not so with Oxford so whatever has been agreed between the promoters already i just hope its something refreshing and points in a direction of hope, not just another plaster on an open wound getting bigger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago Question is with TNT currently not interested in negotiating a deal for British Speedway Premiership if the only available option is the closed network of BSN will sponsors be happy with this lower level of general exposure and also will fans be happy to pay an additional £350 a year to watch Premiership Speedway ? I know clubs that have streamed meetings this year have had less than 100 viewers on a PAYG model which is not cost effective Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 43 minutes ago, flagrag said: Question is with TNT currently not interested in negotiating a deal for British Speedway Premiership if the only available option is the closed network of BSN will sponsors be happy with this lower level of general exposure and also will fans be happy to pay an additional £350 a year to watch Premiership Speedway ? I know clubs that have streamed meetings this year have had less than 100 viewers on a PAYG model which is not cost effective This is why it’s difficult for them to agree on any concrete rules and regulations on league structures for 2026 until they know what (if any) TV revenue will be incoming. It’s not ideal to say the least. Fingers crossed a TV partner comes forward from somewhere so they know where they stand and can crack on with the set up for next year with certainty. As it stands, they must be planning with two different strategies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, flagrag said: Question is with TNT currently not interested in negotiating a deal for British Speedway Premiership if the only available option is the closed network of BSN will sponsors be happy with this lower level of general exposure and also will fans be happy to pay an additional £350 a year to watch Premiership Speedway ? I know clubs that have streamed meetings this year have had less than 100 viewers on a PAYG model which is not cost effective Don't think anyone will pay £450 for a Premiership Season Pass tbh. Are Sky Sports interested? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, TTT said: Don't think anyone will pay £450 for a Premiership Season Pass tbh. Are Sky Sports interested? If it was up to me 100% British Premiership Speedway would be back on Sky Sports unfortunately it’s not my decision I am however having words in the correct ears . There may be some interest if the right deal was available and if a decent league sponsor could be found to support with the production costs as Speedway was not planned into 2026 plans . I am a great advocate of BSN however it’s very much a niche closed product so can foresee some potential issues with sponsorship for clubs 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 3 minutes ago, flagrag said: If it was up to me 100% British Premiership Speedway would be back on Sky Sports unfortunately it’s not my decision I am however having words in the correct ears . There may be some interest if the right deal was available and if a decent league sponsor could be found to support with the production costs as Speedway was not planned into 2026 plans . I am a great advocate of BSN however it’s very much a niche closed product so can foresee some potential issues with sponsorship for clubs Does the lack of clarity about what British Speedway will actually look like contribute to the reluctance of Sky (or any other broadcaster) to cover the sport? Seems to me that plans for the league structure are waiting on a potential TV deal yet a broadcaster will surely want to know what it is they’re signing up to show on their channels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 2 hours ago, Aries said: As it stands, they must be planning with two different strategies. Dark Chocolate covered Hob-Nobs or Rich Tea's 🤔 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 4 hours ago, TTT said: Don't think anyone will pay £450 for a Premiership Season Pass tbh. Are Sky Sports interested? How has the figure of £450 come from, this year I paid £250 ish for full championship and the covered premier League meetings, if ? BSN cover speedway I could see it being £180 per league that's as this year about 50 meetings. Worked out at £4.60 a meeting so price of a pint to watch a speedway meeting on me sofa 😃 Edited 1 hour ago by Neila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 2 hours ago, IainB said: Dark Chocolate covered Hob-Nobs or Rich Tea's 🤔 Garibaldi's. .. With Bourbans as a guest biscuit if the Garibaldi's are needed elsewhere... Edited 1 hour ago by mikebv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 6 hours ago, flagrag said: Question is with TNT currently not interested in negotiating a deal for British Speedway Premiership if the only available option is the closed network of BSN will sponsors be happy with this lower level of general exposure and also will fans be happy to pay an additional £350 a year to watch Premiership Speedway ? I know clubs that have streamed meetings this year have had less than 100 viewers on a PAYG model which is not cost effective Two clubs racing together that can only muster around 1000 fans between the two of them, (500 each at home), won't be getting a huge amount of people interested in purchasing any stream I would think... Edited 1 hour ago by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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