THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 23 hours ago Report Share Posted 23 hours ago The more I think about it the more I don’t know why they don’t run a premiership team out of Buxton, the rent is cheap enough and with the right promotion I would think they could get around 700 crowd, maybe if it was run as Wolverhampton then more than 700 is possible? it’s sounds ridiculous but no more ridiculous than some of the ideas I hear being banded around at the moment, it doesn’t have lights at the moment but that surely isn’t an unclimbable hill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted 15 hours ago Report Share Posted 15 hours ago 8 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: The more I think about it the more I don’t know why they don’t run a premiership team out of Buxton, the rent is cheap enough and with the right promotion I would think they could get around 700 crowd, maybe if it was run as Wolverhampton then more than 700 is possible? it’s sounds ridiculous but no more ridiculous than some of the ideas I hear being banded around at the moment, it doesn’t have lights at the moment but that surely isn’t an unclimbable hill Your more in the know than me Dean with your contacts, but if it is two leagues and say 5-6 in the top league I can't really see what the massive promised changes are other than if they have got a huge sponsor and can go with say a 50 point limit and get more top boys back or if theres only 3-4 in top league could they be applying to join the top polish division. Other than that i can't see what else they could do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, YeOldPitGate said: Your more in the know than me Dean with your contacts, but if it is two leagues and say 5-6 in the top league I can't really see what the massive promised changes are other than if they have got a huge sponsor and can go with say a 50 point limit and get more top boys back or if theres only 3-4 in top league could they be applying to join the top polish division. Other than that i can't see what else they could do. I’m with you on this, other than some sort of big deal I can’t see what they going to do that isn’t worse than last year, I have said for a few years maybe the top teams should ask to join the polish extraleague but the poles won’t let that happen so that’s a no go, I was told moths ago that something way different was happening but they wouldn’t say what but heard nothing since but a couple of things I heard recently which I know are true are very troubling but are complete contradictions to what is out there in the public domain and just don’t make sense at all, the bit that really throws the curveball is the Harry Redknapp thing, that man does nothing for nothing, he is on an earner somewhere and speedway on the face of it hasn’t got a pot to piss in so what’s the deal ? Edited 13 hours ago by THE DEAN MACHINE 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago 10 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: The more I think about it the more I don’t know why they don’t run a premiership team out of Buxton, the rent is cheap enough and with the right promotion I would think they could get around 700 crowd, maybe if it was run as Wolverhampton then more than 700 is possible? it’s sounds ridiculous but no more ridiculous than some of the ideas I hear being banded around at the moment, it doesn’t have lights at the moment but that surely isn’t an unclimbable hill It's a long way from Wolverhampton so that might not attract many (any) Wolves fans especially on a weekday night. I certainly wouldn't see the previous Wolves promotion being interested 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeymouthPirate Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago (edited) No complaints with a two league (+NDL) structure in theory. I’d personally prefer one league but can see the reasons why two should remain (not enough riders is an absolute myth though). However, if it’s true that the Premiership is only consisting of 5 teams next season, then what is the point? In all seriousness. What is the point? It would be the same opposition 3/4 times and I’m assuming it would just be a Grand Final? As play offs with 4 of the 5 making them would be a disgrace. A 5 team league surely can’t be allowed, would make the sport even more of an embarrassment to the general public than it already is. 6 is barely acceptable, but 5 would be a complete joke Edited 12 hours ago by WeymouthPirate 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 25 minutes ago, noaksey said: It's a long way from Wolverhampton so that might not attract many (any) Wolves fans especially on a weekday night. I certainly wouldn't see the previous Wolves promotion being interested While I agree with this, Buxton with the right promotion could attract around 700, it’s location has a good catchment area of closed down tracks and I believe if it were wolves they would get a few hundred go, they didn’t go to Birmingham in numbers because it wasn’t wolves although there were a few most weeks and more when Leicester were there with their ex wolves riders, I know this cause I spoke with lots of them who wouldn’t go to Bham because of this as I said it a ridiculous idea but not as ridiculous as some being banded about, it surely has to be less financial risk than Northampton? Who has no previous fan base and is 40+ miles to the nearest ex track ? I know the rent is considerably cheaper at Buxton and it’s around 50 miles to Buxton from wolves and it’s less than 20 from stoke , this isn’t ideal by any stretch of the imagination but neither is running a nomad team with no home track and yes the current wolves promotion are not interested Edited 12 hours ago by THE DEAN MACHINE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 13 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: While I agree with this, Buxton with the right promotion could attract around 700, it’s location has a good catchment area of closed down tracks and I believe if it were wolves they would get a few hundred go, they didn’t go to Birmingham in numbers because it wasn’t wolves although there were a few most weeks and more when Leicester were there with their ex wolves riders, I know this cause I spoke with lots of them who wouldn’t go to Bham because of this as I said it a ridiculous idea but not as ridiculous as some being banded about, it surely has to be less financial risk than Northampton? Who has no previous fan base and is 40+ miles to the nearest ex track ? I know the rent is considerably cheaper at Buxton and it’s around 50 miles to Buxton from wolves and it’s less than 20 from stoke , this isn’t ideal by any stretch of the imagination but neither is running a nomad team with no home track and yes the current wolves promotion are not interested I can't see a few hundred from Wolves if I'm honest. 50 to 100 maybe at the absolute limit I understand your argument though. How far is Northampton from Coventry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sidney Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 4 minutes ago, noaksey said: I can't see a few hundred from Wolves if I'm honest. 50 to 100 maybe at the absolute limit I understand your argument though. How far is Northampton from Coventry? Circa 37 miles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 35 minutes ago, WeymouthPirate said: No complaints with a two league (+NDL) structure in theory. I’d personally prefer one league but can see the reasons why two should remain (not enough riders is an absolute myth though). However, if it’s true that the Premiership is only consisting of 5 teams next season, then what is the point? In all seriousness. What is the point? It would be the same opposition 3/4 times and I’m assuming it would just be a Grand Final? As play offs with 4 of the 5 making them would be a disgrace. A 5 team league surely can’t be allowed, would make the sport even more of an embarrassment to the general public than it already is. 6 is barely acceptable, but 5 would be a complete joke Shouldn't be any playoffs with 5. Should just be whoever finishes top imo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago (edited) 50 minutes ago, noaksey said: I can't see a few hundred from Wolves if I'm honest. 50 to 100 maybe at the absolute limit I understand your argument though. How far is Northampton from Coventry? There were around 25 from wolves who went to Buxton when they were in national league 8 years ago but even 50-100 is a £1-2000£ a meeting more, not going to happen anyway Edited 11 hours ago by THE DEAN MACHINE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, noaksey said: It's a long way from Wolverhampton so that might not attract many (any) Wolves fans especially on a weekday night. I certainly wouldn't see the previous Wolves promotion being interested Too true it was invariably a 90 mins drive on a Sunday from Wolves due to it being like Coventry, very hard to overtake! Even More time has to be added if a Pub crawl of 'B'Leek is on the agenda. Great scenery though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, Sir Sidney said: Circa 37 miles Thanks. Add in a few lapsed Milton Keynes fans might make Northampton the best bet I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, LisaColette said: Shouldn't be any playoffs with 5. Should just be whoever finishes top imo. I'll play devil's advocate As you and your team have no interest in being a part of it what the f@c£ has your opinion got to do with it 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago All this talk of teams being able to return if things go right off track but what happens if the likes of Boro, Bees, Robins and Heathens were able to return, where would the riders come from, its exactly the same issue without those teams and running one league. The sport somehow needs to be scaled right back so it effectively goes from weekly/semi weekly to monthly so each event is more important, quality over quantity, at least until more riders are brought through and again its the same issue of the sport being too expensive to get into. As talked about recently, all these costs and yet the bikes are going no quicker than what they were 30 years ago, its bloomin madness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 1 minute ago, marko said: All this talk of teams being able to return if things go right off track but what happens if the likes of Boro, Bees, Robins and Heathens were able to return, where would the riders come from, its exactly the same issue without those teams and running one league. The sport somehow needs to be scaled right back so it effectively goes from weekly/semi weekly to monthly so each event is more important, quality over quantity, at least until more riders are brought through and again its the same issue of the sport being too expensive to get into. As talked about recently, all these costs and yet the bikes are going no quicker than what they were 30 years ago, its bloomin madness. Very true. Bring back the upright engines. Safer, Cheaper and, most importantly - fast enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, marko said: All this talk of teams being able to return if things go right off track but what happens if the likes of Boro, Bees, Robins and Heathens were able to return, where would the riders come from, its exactly the same issue without those teams and running one league. The sport somehow needs to be scaled right back so it effectively goes from weekly/semi weekly to monthly so each event is more important, quality over quantity, at least until more riders are brought through and again its the same issue of the sport being too expensive to get into. As talked about recently, all these costs and yet the bikes are going no quicker than what they were 30 years ago, its bloomin madness. I will be talking about the lack of riders on speedway 360 podcast in a couple of weeks and how we go about getting more riders involved 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, The White Knight said: Very true. Bring back the upright engines. Safer, Cheaper and, most importantly - fast enough. Unfortunately upright engines are not the answer to any of speedways problems as much as I would love them to be 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: I will be talking about the lack of riders on speedway 360 podcast in a couple of weeks and how we go about getting more riders involved Didnt the BSP buy a load of those GTR bikes? If so, why not just use them for dozens of practice days and see if anyone with ability turns up... MX seems to be a decent breeding ground as it appears Grasstrack no longer looks like the pathway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 4 hours ago, marko said: All this talk of teams being able to return if things go right off track but what happens if the likes of Boro, Bees, Robins and Heathens were able to return, where would the riders come from, its exactly the same issue without those teams and running one league. The sport somehow needs to be scaled right back so it effectively goes from weekly/semi weekly to monthly so each event is more important, quality over quantity, at least until more riders are brought through and again its the same issue of the sport being too expensive to get into. As talked about recently, all these costs and yet the bikes are going no quicker than what they were 30 years ago, its bloomin madness. Its not far off that now to be honest but not in the constructive way you mean you have teams going nigh on 3 weeks without a meeting in summer then 2 in a week and double headers running into late October. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderman1 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago Bring in weight limits bike and rider, you will get more riders interested instead of a team of midgets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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