ouch Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, mikebv said: A few years ago, somewhere in the UK, when they had ten teams down from eleven the previous year... "Great, one less team this year, I could maybe get some of their riders and make my team better".. Then, the next year when they had nine, down from ten.. "Great, one less team this year, I could maybe get some of their riders and make my team better"... Then, the next year when they had eight, down from nine.. "Great, one less team this year, I could maybe get some of their riders and make my team better".. Then the next year when they had seven, down from eight... "Great, one less team this year, I could maybe get some of their riders and make my team better".. Then the next year when they had five, down two, from seven.. "This is absolutely ridiculous, we cannot run the sport like this, something should be done about all these tracks closing, there isn't enough teams for my team to race against now. Some of the second tier teams need to come up to my league. Some promoters are so selfish, and just look after themselves, they should all be like me, a proper team player"... That’s not been the case for our team as we always have to make our side weaker over winter. The number of riders we have signed, improved and see move on would fill a new 1-7 with a very decent line up. Over the last two seasons three riders who have had to leave Belle Vue have lined up at number one for their new team. There needs to be more balance in these posts as remaining “one note” only leads to the more impressionable on here believing it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 2 minutes ago, ouch said: That’s not been the case for our team as we always have to make our side weaker over winter. The number of riders we have signed, improved and see move on would fill a new 1-7 with a very decent line up. Over the last two seasons three riders who have had to leave Belle Vue have lined up at number one for their new team. There needs to be more balance in these posts as remaining “one note” only leads to the more impressionable on here believing it all. The Aces should have Charitable Trust advantages... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 2 minutes ago, mikebv said: The Aces should have Charitable Trust advantages... We are already, partly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago The odd guest for an injury is fine, the issue is when teams are using track specialists rather than R/R because a rider is racing elsewhere in Europe due to incompetent fixture planning or mid season signings which shouldn't be permitted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago Josh Pickering saying he's going to pick Sheffield over Scunthorpe in the Speedway Star if it's One Big League. I did tell you what would happen to CHAMPIONSHIP Clubs big hitters if One Big League was to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 30 minutes ago, ouch said: Whilst I’m not condoning the system, guests have always been with us. On Saturday 18th of May 1974 there were six top flight meetings and four of them had guests. Thousands attended those meetings as the sport was riding high in people’s consciousness and nobody seemed to bother about it. I had it in my head that we hardly used guests back then but by using the excellent Speedway Researcher website I was able to check that wasn’t true. It’s ironic that MikeBV bangs the drum the loudest about this subject when for the last 4/5 seasons his team have hardly used any guests, in fact way less than during the sports halcyon days. And the legacy of it is clear to see... What you could get away with in the 70's doesn't pass the sniff test in a 24/7 digital media age... The fact they, in over 50 years, havent managed to find a way to not use guests, (like other countries running exactly the same sport have), pretty much speaks volumes... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago Jason Doyle also warning the BSPL as well in regards to certain Aussie Riders who'll pack it in and head back to Australia to work in the mines. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 7 minutes ago, TTT said: Jason Doyle also warning the BSPL as well in regards to certain Aussie Riders who'll pack it in and head back to Australia to work in the mines. Aye right.I will believe that when I see it happening.Wonder if the Mine owners will meet their demands.🤔😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 49 minutes ago, ouch said: Whilst I’m not condoning the system, guests have always been with us. On Saturday 18th of May 1974 there were six top flight meetings and four of them had guests. Thousands attended those meetings as the sport was riding high in people’s consciousness and nobody seemed to bother about it. I had it in my head that we hardly used guests back then but by using the excellent Speedway Researcher website I was able to check that wasn’t true. It’s ironic that MikeBV bangs the drum the loudest about this subject when for the last 4/5 seasons his team have hardly used any guests, in fact way less than during the sports halcyon days. I do agree that unfortunately the guest system is and always has been a (sort of) requirement of speedway. However, it is too often used as a first option over R/R and in many cases gives the team to draft in a track specialist. I’d much rather see teams having to use RR in the first instance with guests allowed only if two or more riders are absent and then the guest to be used as a replacement for the rider with the lower average - RR for the highest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheese Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 31 minutes ago, TTT said: Josh Pickering saying he's going to pick Sheffield over Scunthorpe in the Speedway Star if it's One Big League. I did tell you what would happen to CHAMPIONSHIP Clubs big hitters if One Big League was to happen. It's fairly obvious that if you go to one league now then essentially all signings made so far are void. There are a few others along with Pickering who you would expect to prioritise a current Premiership side and no doubt several more amongst those agreed but not announced. And for all the criticism of the Premiership being selfish etc, it's clear that the bulk of the Championship will have no intention of allowing those five clubs in for that reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 42 minutes ago, TTT said: Josh Pickering saying he's going to pick Sheffield over Scunthorpe in the Speedway Star if it's One Big League. I did tell you what would happen to CHAMPIONSHIP Clubs big hitters if One Big League was to happen. That may be what he would want to do, but if he has signed a contract with Scunthorpe and they want to enforce it, then he will have a problem. Unless there are termination for convenience clauses, he could be sued for breach of contract. He could always try and buy himself out of the contract. Unless the promoters collectively agree to make all contracts signed null and void, then I think the boat has already sailed on one league for 2026. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago Hot off the press. A new premiership club is opening in the Portsmouth area. The Redknapp ‘bet victor’ Barons will take to the track in May 2026 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 52 minutes ago, The Cheese said: It's fairly obvious that if you go to one league now then essentially all signings made so far are void. There are a few others along with Pickering who you would expect to prioritise a current Premiership side and no doubt several more amongst those agreed but not announced. And for all the criticism of the Premiership being selfish etc, it's clear that the bulk of the Championship will have no intention of allowing those five clubs in for that reason. Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phannan Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 45 minutes ago, cowboy cookie returns? said: Hot off the press. A new premiership club is opening in the Portsmouth area. The Redknapp ‘bet victor’ Barons will take to the track in May 2026 There’s only one Barons . The sadly defunct Bradford Barons . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 57 minutes ago, JamesB said: That may be what he would want to do, but if he has signed a contract with Scunthorpe and they want to enforce it, then he will have a problem. Unless there are termination for convenience clauses, he could be sued for breach of contract. He could always try and buy himself out of the contract. Unless the promoters collectively agree to make all contracts signed null and void, then I think the boat has already sailed on one league for 2026. Picko has already informed Godfrey of his intentions. Basically if the Two Tier Structure collapses then Scunthorpe won't have a No.1 in 2026. Common sense will prevail in the end though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phannan Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, TTT said: Josh Pickering saying he's going to pick Sheffield over Scunthorpe in the Speedway Star if it's One Big League. I did tell you what would happen to CHAMPIONSHIP Clubs big hitters if One Big League was to happen. Scunthorpe could always sign his brother Ronnie. Do you know who he is? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago Just now, Phannan said: Scunthorpe could always sign his brother Ronnie. Do you know who he is? Legend. We could do with him at the AGM Meeting in January. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 17 minutes ago, TTT said: Picko has already informed Godfrey of his intentions. Basically if the Two Tier Structure collapses then Scunthorpe won't have a No.1 in 2026. Common sense will prevail in the end though. He can inform them as many times as he wants. If he has signed a contract then unless Scunthorpe agree to release him from it he has to ride for them. If he doesn’t, then he is in breach of contract and can ultimately be sued by Scunthorpe. If he hasn’t signed a contract, then happy days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 3 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: I’ve already started on those years ago and doubling up, if you don’t see the damage then sorry to say but you are part of the problem, it starts with a small crack and through people saying oh it’s only a little crack no harm done If I have understood you correctly, rather than accusing me of being a part of a problem that I had no input in creating nor control of at any time, perhaps you could actually answer my initial question to your somewhat sarcastic post re Stewart Dickson's roles at Leicester & Berwick as damaging the credibility of the sport - How is this the case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 26 minutes ago, 1 valve said: If I have understood you correctly, rather than accusing me of being a part of a problem that I had no input in creating nor control of at any time, perhaps you could actually answer my initial question to your somewhat sarcastic post re Stewart Dickson's roles at Leicester & Berwick as damaging the credibility of the sport - How is this the case? You’re not that stupid that I need to explain,but here goes it’s doubling up, it 2 teams in the same sport,it’s conflict of interest, it’s a joke in a team sport that this is even a thing, sport teams are supposed to be territorial,it has no credibility whatsoever to the outside world looking in on our sport, is that good enough for you ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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