Gambo Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago Fair play to Poole for usually managing to attract the exciting prospects. Shame they do the absolute minimum (and that's only when forced to) to help with the development of these youngsters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Gambo said: Fair play to Poole for usually managing to attract the exciting prospects. Shame they do the absolute minimum (and that's only when forced to) to help with the development of these youngsters. Surly riding for Poole in the championship is developing them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago If Cooper thought the Poole track was as bad as the Poole haters think,why would he go there.Not short of offers I’m sure. Best of luck to him looks areal talent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago 41 minutes ago, foreverblue said: It will always be a topic, a bit like Kings Lynn track used to be much better than it is now. agreed, not sure why its relevant though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveArena Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago He has gone there as he must love a pound note. Poole must be the biggest payers along with Glasgow in that league. Glasgow is too far from Essex every week so Poole was the obvious choice. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 10 minutes ago, therefused said: agreed, not sure why its relevant though? Because Kings Lynn is your team and both tracks had better racing than they do now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 11 minutes ago, SteveArena said: He has gone there as he must love a pound note. Poole must be the biggest payers along with Glasgow in that league. Glasgow is too far from Essex every week so Poole was the obvious choice. Don't think Poole are big payers, Anders Rowe can probably vouch for that, it's more like a well run club, with good sponsors, no your going to get paid on time, and are always there or there abouts , when the trophies are handed out 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 15 minutes ago, SteveArena said: He has gone there as he must love a pound note. Poole must be the biggest payers along with Glasgow in that league. Glasgow is too far from Essex every week so Poole was the obvious choice. Not sure riders worry about where their teams are located, Harris rides for Kings Lynn and Glasgow and lives in Rugby. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 2 hours ago, Wee Eck said: I think Cooper needs to have some of the weight of expectation lifted off his young shoulders. Too many lads were going to be a superstar the minute they hit 16. Like Joe Haines 20 years ago or more recently Kyle Bickley, Archie Freeman, Ashton Boughen, even Will Cairns. At 15/16 they are still growing, some up the way, some round the way, some both, and body size and shape can be critical. I’m hopeful he’ll do exceptionally well and, certainly for his first year at this level, he’s going to the team with arguably the best manager and the Poole fans will get behind him as they do all the triers. I think a lot of that has to do with them being slung into the Prem also from the get go I can only remember Rob Lambert and Joe Screen being good enough from the start in the top league, the likes of Havelock, Loram, Dugard, Silver came up through the old second division for a couple of years before moving up. The problem you have is unless you are a top 10% talent which Bob and Joe both are/were you get on a bad run and have confidence smashed where if you can end up a big fish in a smaller pond for a couple of years whilst training up you can then move up with more confidence things will work out. I've never seen Cairns ride but given he pretty much doubled his average in year one that's all anyone can ask of the lad, but I do agree with this next crop of youngsters smashing their confidence early doors is not the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, Arthur54 said: Surly riding for Poole in the championship is developing them No, they've signed him for the greater good of Poole speedway, they are not training and developing riders for the grater good of British speedway or the riders themselves. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, M.D said: No, they've signed him for the greater good of Poole speedway, they are not training and developing riders for the grater good of British speedway or the riders themselves. And ultimately Poland! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntFaceMan Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, M.D said: No, they've signed him for the greater good of Poole speedway, they are not training and developing riders for the grater good of British speedway or the riders themselves. Why would they? Their only goal is to assemble a winning team. And being part of a winning team is essential development. What more are you suggesting they do? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago (edited) 4 hours ago, YeOldPitGate said: I think a lot of that has to do with them being slung into the Prem also from the get go I can only remember Rob Lambert and Joe Screen being good enough from the start in the top league, the likes of Havelock, Loram, Dugard, Silver came up through the old second division for a couple of years before moving up. The problem you have is unless you are a top 10% talent which Bob and Joe both are/were you get on a bad run and have confidence smashed where if you can end up a big fish in a smaller pond for a couple of years whilst training up you can then move up with more confidence things will work out. I've never seen Cairns ride but given he pretty much doubled his average in year one that's all anyone can ask of the lad, but I do agree with this next crop of youngsters smashing their confidence early doors is not the way to go. Your talking about a completely different Era though.Not remotely near the same standard of riders about..🤔 Edited 7 hours ago by Fromafar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 4 minutes ago, BurntFaceMan said: Why would they? Their only goal is to assemble a winning team. And being part of a winning team is essential development. What more are you suggesting they do? Train up local riders in the hope of making them professional speedway riders.. If all clubs took this attitude we wouldn't be producing any riders for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntFaceMan Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago Just now, M.D said: Train up local riders in the hope of making them professional speedway riders.. If all clubs took this attitude we wouldn't be producing any riders for the future. The burden should be placed on the league, not the individual team. This is not Formula 1. Clubs cannot be expected to fund and maintain their own individual development teams. The best thing a club can do for the sport is to put on the best performance they can with the budget they have. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackrat Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 3 hours ago, Arthur54 said: Surly riding for Poole in the championship is developing them Teaching concrete racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 2 hours ago, YeOldPitGate said: I think a lot of that has to do with them being slung into the Prem also from the get go I can only remember Rob Lambert and Joe Screen being good enough from the start in the top league, the likes of Havelock, Loram, Dugard, Silver came up through the old second division for a couple of years before moving up. The problem you have is unless you are a top 10% talent which Bob and Joe both are/were you get on a bad run and have confidence smashed where if you can end up a big fish in a smaller pond for a couple of years whilst training up you can then move up with more confidence things will work out. I've never seen Cairns ride but given he pretty much doubled his average in year one that's all anyone can ask of the lad, but I do agree with this next crop of youngsters smashing their confidence early doors is not the way to go. Michael Lee was brilliant when he started at 16. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelShoe Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 3 hours ago, SteveArena said: He has gone there as he must love a pound note. Poole must be the biggest payers along with Glasgow in that league. Glasgow is too far from Essex every week so Poole was the obvious choice. yeah think geography would have been a factor in his decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago Regarding the young riders, a lot of teams have a NDL team or a junior team being ran in the Northern or midland junior league, thus helping local youngsters start and progress through the levels of the sport. But it appears Poole don't have this, then use ££s to encourage the youngsters to join them. Even when Poole put the youngsters meeting on last season Paul starke was riding in the event 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Neila said: Regarding the young riders, a lot of teams have a NDL team or a junior team being ran in the Northern or midland junior league, thus helping local youngsters start and progress through the levels of the sport. But it appears Poole don't have this, then use ££s to encourage the youngsters to join them. Even when Poole put the youngsters meeting on last season Paul starke was riding in the event 🤔 All this what Poole do and don’t do is regarding youngsters just getting tedious.After all they gave Vinnie a chance and Worky have benefited from that.Didn’t see you thanking them. Edited 7 hours ago by Fromafar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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