Poole 2026

[Neila]

36 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said:

...and therein is the potential problem - depending what it states in their resoective contracts?!

Poland 1st Poland 2nd Poland 3rd 😜

[SteveLyric2]

4 hours ago, Neila said:

It wasn't like that last year when you took Bowes and looks what happened there 🤣🤣

Why laugh when a rider gets a season-ending injury?  Typical.

[Arthur54]

22 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said:

Why laugh when a rider gets a season-ending injury?  Typical.

Just one of his normal digs at Poole 

[Neila]

26 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said:

Why laugh when a rider gets a season-ending injury?  Typical.

Before the injury most Poole fans wanted rid of him cos he was crap 

[SteveLyric2]

9 minutes ago, Neila said:

Before the injury most Poole fans wanted rid of him cos he was crap 

Simply not true, but still doesnt excuse laughing at an injured rider!

[Catalan]

1 hour ago, Neila said:

Before the injury most Poole fans wanted rid of him cos he was crap 

Not sure most wanted him gone but a lot were frustrated 

[Steve Shovlar]

7 hours ago, therefused said:

Not if Poland have there way, you can wave goodbye to both of them 👋 

Poland won’t be able to stop British riders plying their trade in Britain. Unless they are employed full time, the riders are self employed and it would be a restriction of trade. Would never stand up in court.

the Polish league could say we are not going to employ these riders who refuse to obey us, but again that would be discrimination.  And would Polish clubs tow the line when there are British riders they would want in their team?

They could test the waters but Kurtz, Holder, Doyle and a few others could refuse the rule or demand a large wage rise which covers their loss of earnings.

Edited 17 hours ago by Steve Shovlar

[Weeyin]

3 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Poland won’t be able to stop British riders plying their trade in Britain. 

No, but if it is 1 other league are they going to choose premiership over championship in UK?

[poole keith]

1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Poland won’t be able to stop British riders plying their trade in Britain. Unless they are employed full time, the riders are self employed and it would be a restriction of trade. Would never stand up in court.

the Polish league could say we are not going to employ these riders who refuse to obey us, but again that would be discrimination.  And would Polish clubs tow the line when there are British riders they would want in their team?

They could test the waters but Kurtz, Holder, Doyle and a few others could refuse the rule or demand a large wage rise which covers their loss of earnings.

Poland won't force any rider to do anything,it will be a clause in their contract, they don't have to sign it .

I believe when Damon Hill was driving f1 for Williams,Damon who was a dead keen biker had a clause forbidding him to ride motorbikes (risk of injury)

[Steve Shovlar]

2 minutes ago, poole keith said:

Poland won't force any rider to do anything,it will be a clause in their contract, they don't have to sign it .

I believe when Damon Hill was driving f1 for Williams,Damon who was a dead keen biker had a clause forbidding him to ride motorbikes (risk of injury)

That’s different. I know of a Bournemouth footballer who was going to come out with me for a paragliding tandem ride. The club stopped him saying the sport was far too dangerous and that was that.

for Poland to stop a young rider developing in two leagues in his own country is never going to hold any water. The usual posturing from Poland but they know it can’t be enforced and a simple challenge in court would see them back down. To “ban” a rider because they don’t want them to ride in two leagues in a foreign country would be against EU laws and would fall over quickly. 

[LisaColette]

10 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

That’s different. I know of a Bournemouth footballer who was going to come out with me for a paragliding tandem ride. The club stopped him saying the sport was far too dangerous and that was that.

for Poland to stop a young rider developing in two leagues in his own country is never going to hold any water. The usual posturing from Poland but they know it can’t be enforced and a simple challenge in court would see them back down. To “ban” a rider because they don’t want them to ride in two leagues in a foreign country would be against EU laws and would fall over quickly. 

Would help if riders wouldnt agree to what Poland want, so much.

[SteveLyric2]

32 minutes ago, LisaColette said:

Would help if riders wouldnt agree to what Poland want, so much.

Money talks! It's a lotta zlotys 

[lewy]

1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said:

That’s different. I know of a Bournemouth footballer who was going to come out with me for a paragliding tandem ride. The club stopped him saying the sport was far too dangerous and that was that.

for Poland to stop a young rider developing in two leagues in his own country is never going to hold any water. The usual posturing from Poland but they know it can’t be enforced and a simple challenge in court would see them back down. To “ban” a rider because they don’t want them to ride in two leagues in a foreign country would be against EU laws and would fall over quickly. 

They don't need to ban anyone just say we will not use you if you do. He who's paying the most will usually have the final say.

[Neila]

Have you seen how much Poland pay the riders , plenty of info via a Google search, all they have to do is offer a rider say £500 a point top riders are on 10 times that, then a clause in the contract you can only ride in one other league. Most riders are gonna put the polish money first, rather than ride in the UK for £75-£125 a point.

Just got to see how little the British final winner got £1750 😲 look up Dan T's vlog 

[mikebv]

8 hours ago, Neila said:

Have you seen how much Poland pay the riders , plenty of info via a Google search, all they have to do is offer a rider say £500 a point top riders are on 10 times that, then a clause in the contract you can only ride in one other league. Most riders are gonna put the polish money first, rather than ride in the UK for £75-£125 a point.

Just got to see how little the British final winner got £1750 😲 look up Dan T's vlog 

Dan said last week it's £700 - £800 a point at his level...

And £1000+ for number ones in the 2nd tier.. 

Plus that so important high five figure signing on fee which helps riders not only set up in Poland but elsewhere too. (Which is part of the reason the Poles are not too pleased when rides get injured in other leagues)..

He also confirmed that his tier is also impacted by the rule, and he may have to consider not doing Poland if he doesn't get rides, like this season, and he can then ride in both tiers over here..

You would imagine those running the sport in the UK will have already sounded out the riders to see who is willing to do two tiers over here next year, such is the fundamental impact the rule could have, and have a complete list of them already sorted...

Wouldn't you?...

Edit. He also said there should be a BSP investigation into the standard of the Poole track last week..!!

Edited 3 hours ago by mikebv

[therefused]

14 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:

That’s different. I know of a Bournemouth footballer who was going to come out with me for a paragliding tandem ride. The club stopped him saying the sport was far too dangerous and that was that.

for Poland to stop a young rider developing in two leagues in his own country is never going to hold any water. The usual posturing from Poland but they know it can’t be enforced and a simple challenge in court would see them back down. To “ban” a rider because they don’t want them to ride in two leagues in a foreign country would be against EU laws and would fall over quickly. 

like i said, you can wave goodbye to both Cairns and Rushen next year 

[ASpeedwayfan]

1 hour ago, mikebv said:

Dan said last week it's £700 - £800 a point at his level...

And £1000+ for number ones in the 2nd tier.. 

Plus that so important high five figure signing on fee which helps riders not only set up in Poland but elsewhere too. (Which is part of the reason the Poles are not too pleased when rides get injured in other leagues)..

He also confirmed that his tier is also impacted by the rule, and he may have to consider not doing Poland if he doesn't get rides, like this season, and he can then ride in both tiers over here..

You would imagine those running the sport in the UK will have already sounded out the riders to see who is willing to do two tiers over here next year, such is the fundamental impact the rule could have, and have a complete list of them already sorted...

Wouldn't you?...

Edit. He also said there should be a BSP investigation into the standard of the Poole track last week..!!

Yeah he certainly doesn’t enjoy the Poole track. Always moans about it even if the rest of his team says it’s in an alright state. 

[ASpeedwayfan]

2 minutes ago, therefused said:

like i said, you can wave goodbye to both Cairns and Rushen next year 

Time will tell, both should do everything in their power to do both leagues in Britain and then poland. 
cairns and Rushen at 3/4 for Poole next season 

[mikebv]

36 minutes ago, ASpeedwayfan said:

Time will tell, both should do everything in their power to do both leagues in Britain and then poland. 
cairns and Rushen at 3/4 for Poole next season 

It is a very difficult decision for these lads though...

As Dan T said, his Lodz's signing fee was "several times" more than his Leicester and Edinburgh fees combined...

Which can set you up for the season outside Poland too..

And given the current level of these lads, and their aspirations, riding in tier one of the UK will give them more stretch than riding in tier two...

In an ideal world they 100% should develop through the 2nd tier over here, but that pull of Poland, which includes the professionalism of the clubs, the level of the crowds, and the jeopardy and consequence of the competition, which ensures a level of pressure to perform which will test them, (it's not just the money), must be tempting..

[gjcone44]

hopefully this will stop gb speedway kicking the can down the rd, and a full restructure is needed.