Youhave2minutes Posted Monday at 11:28 AM Report Share Posted Monday at 11:28 AM Air your suggestions here regarding measures you feel that could help the sport head in the right direction. Amalgamation for or against? Team points limit your opinion? One Rider 8 point rule per team? 6 or 7 man teams ? Just to name a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB1 Posted Monday at 03:16 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 03:16 PM 3 hours ago, Youhave2minutes said: Air your suggestions here regarding measures you feel that could help the sport head in the right direction. Amalgamation for or against? Team points limit your opinion? One Rider 8 point rule per team? 6 or 7 man teams ? Just to name a few. An extra large serving of groundhog I'm afraid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boro Bare Posted Monday at 03:29 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 03:29 PM I’m assuming the 8 point figure is due to the current number of CL teams being equal to the number of riders with an 8 point average. As such if there’s a change in the number of teams the average figure can change to match. Fine in principle. What would happen though if a rider doesn’t want to ride for whatever clubs are left available? Or can’t agree terms with that particular club? Or can’t ride for some clubs due to fixture clashes with foreign clubs? It’s conceivable that a club might not want any of the riders left available. What if a PL rider makes a late decision to double down because there aren’t enough PL fixtures anymore? Or if a signed CL rider changes their mind about riding at the last minute? The list goes on. Seems problematic to me, or is this all a lot easier than I’m imagining? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youhave2minutes Posted Monday at 03:50 PM Author Report Share Posted Monday at 03:50 PM 33 minutes ago, TB1 said: An extra large serving of groundhog I'm afraid. That will feed the boffins for they start😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youhave2minutes Posted Monday at 03:53 PM Author Report Share Posted Monday at 03:53 PM (edited) 3 hours ago, Boro Bare said: I’m assuming the 8 point figure is due to the current number of CL teams being equal to the number of riders with an 8 point average. As such if there’s a change in the number of teams the average figure can change to match. Fine in principle. What would happen though if a rider doesn’t want to ride for whatever clubs are left available? Or can’t agree terms with that particular club? Or can’t ride for some clubs due to fixture clashes with foreign clubs? It’s conceivable that a club might not want any of the riders left available. What if a PL rider makes a late decision to double down because there aren’t enough PL fixtures anymore? Or if a signed CL rider changes their mind about riding at the last minute? The list goes on. Seems problematic to me, or is this all a lot easier than I’m imagining? Everything you say makes sense, gonna be a lot of head scratching indeed. Ive never known a sport to have so many hiccups Edited Monday at 06:29 PM by Youhave2minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted Monday at 05:31 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 05:31 PM 1 hour ago, Boro Bare said: I’m assuming the 8 point figure is due to the current number of CL teams being equal to the number of riders with an 8 point average. As such if there’s a change in the number of teams the average figure can change to match. Fine in principle. What would happen though if a rider doesn’t want to ride for whatever clubs are left available? Or can’t agree terms with that particular club? Or can’t ride for some clubs due to fixture clashes with foreign clubs? It’s conceivable that a club might not want any of the riders left available. What if a PL rider makes a late decision to double down because there aren’t enough PL fixtures anymore? Or if a signed CL rider changes their mind about riding at the last minute? The list goes on. Seems problematic to me, or is this all a lot easier than I’m imagining? At last someone who seems to understand the issues regarding “sharing” the top riders around. In either League! There’s only certain clubs who can afford the more pricey riders so the issue is not only can the less well off clubs afford a big hitter that now can’t be fitted in elsewhere, and will those riders now accept a lower deal because that’s the only offer left on the table. As I’ve said on other threads, you could end up losing riders to British Speedway because they’re not prepared to accept what a lower paying club will pay them. If a few of the top boys DO accept a lower deal somewhere where they didn’t want to go, is that in itself fair to said riders because of a restriction in the rules? You’ve also got the issue of local sponsorship. You’ll have riders that have acquired valuable sponsorship at the club they’re settled at, that they’ll now lose by being forced in to moving elsewhere. I personally hope any thoughts of “sharing” riders by enforcing new rules, doesn’t see the light of day and let all teams build how they like within the points limit. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted Monday at 05:33 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 05:33 PM Unless someone is on a wind up which is possible although they not known for their sense of humour we are heading for something really big, I don’t know what it could possibly be,all the rumours I hear are 2026 the same as 25 but with less teams which is a thoroughly depressing thought and imo is going to continue the demise of British speedway, I hope there is an idea out there somewhere to drag us out of this mess the sport finds itself in my 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted Monday at 06:16 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 06:16 PM 42 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Unless someone is on a wind up which is possible although they not known for their sense of humour we are heading for something really big, I don’t know what it could possibly be,all the rumours I hear are 2026 the same as 25 but with less teams which is a thoroughly depressing thought and imo is going to continue the demise of British speedway, I hope there is an idea out there somewhere to drag us out of this mess the sport finds itself in my Hopefully your sources are correct Dean and maybe Flagrag can convince Sky to give the sport another chance as he seems to be very close to media companies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youhave2minutes Posted Monday at 06:28 PM Author Report Share Posted Monday at 06:28 PM (edited) 3 hours ago, TB1 said: An extra large serving of groundhog I'm afraid. Don’t forget the apple sauce. Oops sorry I was thinking of a hog roast. Edited Monday at 06:31 PM by Youhave2minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_minall Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago The news of Nicholls signing for Plymouth in 2026 says one of 2 things to me: There won't be one big league in 2026 Nicholls won't have a TV job in 2026 He probably knows something we don't, but I find that signing to be very interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youhave2minutes Posted 10 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 28 minutes ago, Dave_minall said: The news of Nicholls signing for Plymouth in 2026 says one of 2 things to me: There won't be one big league in 2026 Nicholls won't have a TV job in 2026 He probably knows something we don't, but I find that signing to be very interesting. So do I to be honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago Would be surprised if anything can be done to really sort out the mess the sport is in .Think the League structure will tell us everything when we find out what it really is.!! The general chat on here suggests changes will not be for the better.IMO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago On 10/27/2025 at 5:33 PM, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Unless someone is on a wind up which is possible although they not known for their sense of humour we are heading for something really big, I don’t know what it could possibly be,all the rumours I hear are 2026 the same as 25 but with less teams which is a thoroughly depressing thought and imo is going to continue the demise of British speedway, I hope there is an idea out there somewhere to drag us out of this mess the sport finds itself in my "we are heading for something really big," ----- Could it mean that after more EGM's and more EGM's that the PL situation has unravelled to the fact that there are currently only 4 Clubs. The PL won't countenance, 1 big league, NONE of the CL Clubs are not interested in moving "up". Birmingham are closed, Sheffield remains unsold, Oxford will not run 3 Leagues and won't run PL. No returning or new Club is viable in the timeframe. The only viable 5th club therefore is Sheffield. My understanding is-: AT LEAST Two of the PL Clubs are now considering not racing in 2026 rather that diminish their current SGP staffed roster and are increasingly intransigent. Where that might leave the other 2 (or 3 if Sheffield is sold) no one yet knows. Hopefully Sheffield in sold PDQ! Before AGM! / CL will accept a couple of ex PL Clubs who wish to race under current CL limit? Also possible that if the boycott happens potentially none of the current Management Committee may remain in place! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanoXtra Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 32 minutes ago, HGould said: "we are heading for something really big," ----- Could it mean that after more EGM's and more EGM's that the PL situation has unravelled to the fact that there are currently only 4 Clubs. The PL won't countenance, 1 big league, NONE of the CL Clubs are not interested in moving "up". Birmingham are closed, Sheffield remains unsold, Oxford will not run 3 Leagues and won't run PL. No returning or new Club is viable in the timeframe. The only viable 5th club therefore is Sheffield. My understanding is-: AT LEAST Two of the PL Clubs are now considering not racing in 2026 rather that diminish their current SGP staffed roster and are increasingly intransigent. Where that might leave the other 2 (or 3 if Sheffield is sold) no one yet knows. Hopefully Sheffield in sold PDQ! Before AGM! / CL will accept a couple of ex PL Clubs who wish to race under current CL limit? Also possible that if the boycott happens potentially none of the current Management Committee may remain in place! Championship will last a couple years max if premiership doesn’t run. People need to realise it’s in everyone’s best interest to have two leagues. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 33 minutes ago, ShanoXtra said: Championship will last a couple years max if premiership doesn’t run. People need to realise it’s in everyone’s best interest to have two leagues. A few Championship Clubs are already being prop up by their Fan Clubs can’t see how they would survive moving up anyway.Whose best interests? The riders will soon realise where their bread is buttered. Edited 5 hours ago by Fromafar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youhave2minutes Posted 5 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 minute ago, Fromafar said: A few Championship Clubs are already be prop up by their Fan Clubs can’t see how they would survive moving up anyway.Whose best interests? The riders will soon realise where their bread is buttered. And it’s not on both sides either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanoXtra Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: A few Championship Clubs are already being prop up by their Fan Clubs can’t see how they would survive moving up anyway.Whose best interests? The riders will soon realise where their bread is buttered. Half the championship heat leaders ride because they can afford it due to the championship, I’m not telling people they have to jump up, it’s their decision. I’m simply stating is the premiership doesn’t run then watch speedway further fall. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthsayer Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 3 hours ago, Fromafar said: The riders will soon realise where their bread is buttered. There is no butter left on the shelves... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 4 hours ago, HGould said: "we are heading for something really big," ----- Could it mean that after more EGM's and more EGM's that the PL situation has unravelled to the fact that there are currently only 4 Clubs. The PL won't countenance, 1 big league, NONE of the CL Clubs are not interested in moving "up". Birmingham are closed, Sheffield remains unsold, Oxford will not run 3 Leagues and won't run PL. No returning or new Club is viable in the timeframe. The only viable 5th club therefore is Sheffield. My understanding is-: AT LEAST Two of the PL Clubs are now considering not racing in 2026 rather that diminish their current SGP staffed roster and are increasingly intransigent. Where that might leave the other 2 (or 3 if Sheffield is sold) no one yet knows. Hopefully Sheffield in sold PDQ! Before AGM! / CL will accept a couple of ex PL Clubs who wish to race under current CL limit? Also possible that if the boycott happens potentially none of the current Management Committee may remain in place! You can understand if the teams with "top level riders" are reluctant to part with them... Their rents won't drop yet their admission costs will need to, to reflect the significant drop in standard of the riders on view, and crowds wont increase to cover the reduction in admission charge, riders costs may drop but would crowds match the ones delivered with the top riders there? Sponsors also may only want to be involved with the "top riders" and could either pull their money completely or reduce it due to, again, the drop in levels.. So many teams need so many different scenarios... A proper self inflicted cluster eff... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 8 hours ago, Youhave2minutes said: So do I to be honest Scott will be pushing 48 yrs old by the time the next season starts ,thought he would of had a final season at Oxford ( he had said he would finish there in the past ) so maybe wants to break the half century as a rider ! Edited 1 hour ago by FAST GATER 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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