szkocjasid Posted December 11, 2025 Report Share Posted December 11, 2025 5 hours ago, Youhave2minutes said: Don’t rate Smith. Been around long enough and should be better While I agree with that, question is would Smith be better than Perry or Summers etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youhave2minutes Posted December 11, 2025 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2025 Just now, szkocjasid said: While I agree with that, question is would Smith be better than Perry or Summers etc. I’d go with Perry myself. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted December 11, 2025 Report Share Posted December 11, 2025 11 hours ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said: 2004, if I recall correctly. Started the season like a steam train, but ran out of steam by May. Lots of factors; Jones - an absolute revelation - picked up an injury and chucked it, Bentley’s form fell off a cliff, Blackman and Campbell were dreadful and subsequently replaced by Cockle and Carrillo which improved us at reserve, but McAllan came in for Jones, so we were on to plums. Still, we had a 15-team Premier League. Imagine. Didn't Stancl start to fade slightly that year as well after two good seasons in 02 and 03? Lots of engine issues? He was a class act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted December 11, 2025 Report Share Posted December 11, 2025 11 hours ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said: 2004, if I recall correctly. Started the season like a steam train, but ran out of steam by May. Lots of factors; Jones - an absolute revelation - picked up an injury and chucked it, Bentley’s form fell off a cliff, Blackman and Campbell were dreadful and subsequently replaced by Cockle and Carrillo which improved us at reserve, but McAllan came in for Jones, so we were on to plums. Still, we had a 15-team Premier League. Imagine. Didn't Stancl start to fade slightly that year as well after two good seasons in 02 and 03? Lots of engine issues? He was a class act. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerIain Posted December 11, 2025 Report Share Posted December 11, 2025 19 minutes ago, Pinny said: Didn't Stancl start to fade slightly that year as well after two good seasons in 02 and 03? Lots of engine issues? He was a class act. He was classy and quick, but didn't seem to handle pressure very well. My memory is that he generally didn't do well in heat 15 and all his bad matches seemed to be against Edinburgh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted December 12, 2025 Report Share Posted December 12, 2025 8 hours ago, Pinny said: Didn't Stancl start to fade slightly that year as well after two good seasons in 02 and 03? Lots of engine issues? He was a class act. I remember going to a meeting at Newport after the Cardiff GP and he had a big off going into the solid fence off turn 4 back first, don't think he was the same for a while after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWellBehavedWorrall Posted December 12, 2025 Report Share Posted December 12, 2025 10 hours ago, Pinny said: Didn't Stancl start to fade slightly that year as well after two good seasons in 02 and 03? Lots of engine issues? He was a class act. George was a breath of a fresh air for us. He was our first proper number one since Robert Nagy; our first rider to break the nine-point average barrier in a season since 1994, I believe. He was a classy rider; he would have looked less comfortable in an arm chair than he did on a speedway bike. He was a fantastic gater. Where George struggled was when he found himself not at the front; passing didn’t come easy for him and subsequently, didn’t happen often. Heat fifteen at Armadale on the 12th of April 2002 will always be my favourite speedway race. We hadn’t won at Armadale since 1997 and after fourteen heats, we found ourselves 43-41 ahead. Armadale was packed. George gated and lead Peter Carr and Frede Schott for three-and-a-half laps until Carr came under him going in the third bend of the last lap, but somehow through defying physics, George - millimetres apart from Carr - returned the favour exiting the fourth bend to take the chequered flag. The sea of red on the first bend (now third) erupted. Edinburgh 44, Glasgow 46. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youhave2minutes Posted December 12, 2025 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2025 1 hour ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said: George was a breath of a fresh air for us. Yes he used to get right up my nose😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickinho Posted December 12, 2025 Report Share Posted December 12, 2025 (edited) 13 hours ago, Youhave2minutes said: I’d go with Perry myself. Good call. He was starting to show a few flashes of something before his bad crash on the home straight at Ashfield. On his average he could maybe double it. Edited December 12, 2025 by Nickinho 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted December 12, 2025 Report Share Posted December 12, 2025 10 hours ago, M.D said: I remember going to a meeting at Newport after the Cardiff GP and he had a big off going into the solid fence off turn 4 back first, don't think he was the same for a while after that. Wasn't that Frank Smart? I remember that meeting well, think it was 2003. Frank Smart was chasing Stancl in the opener and Stancl pulled a huge locker and Smart avoided him and come down and was somehow excluded. Stancl went all meeting unbeaten and needed to win heat 15 for a Glasgow win but Wato and Puk got a 5-1 over him and won us the match. Great times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted December 12, 2025 Report Share Posted December 12, 2025 I remember going up to Ashfield for the first time in 2002. Stancl had his big average and passed Paul Bentley twice that Sunday with ease. Certainly that day looked a class apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted December 12, 2025 Report Share Posted December 12, 2025 1 hour ago, Pinny said: Wasn't that Frank Smart? I remember that meeting well, think it was 2003. Frank Smart was chasing Stancl in the opener and Stancl pulled a huge locker and Smart avoided him and come down and was somehow excluded. Stancl went all meeting unbeaten and needed to win heat 15 for a Glasgow win but Wato and Puk got a 5-1 over him and won us the match. Great times. It was an individual meeting, I was there with Adam Shields, Adam won his first ride but then pulled out aggravated his broken pelvis. Loved Newport, went there a good few times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted December 12, 2025 Report Share Posted December 12, 2025 (edited) Double post x2 Edited December 12, 2025 by Robinh88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted December 13, 2025 Report Share Posted December 13, 2025 7 hours ago, M.D said: It was an individual meeting, I was there with Adam Shields, Adam won his first ride but then pulled out aggravated his broken pelvis. Loved Newport, went there a good few times. The Friday night Glasgow meetings were always great value. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted December 13, 2025 Report Share Posted December 13, 2025 (edited) Story about Oxford stadium in the Oxford paper and £2m debt not paid ? Anyone know what this is about,can’t get story to open but one comment says that’s the end of speedway then Edited December 13, 2025 by THE DEAN MACHINE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youhave2minutes Posted December 13, 2025 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2025 25 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Story about Oxford stadium in the Oxford paper and £2m debt not paid ? Anyone know what this is about,can’t get story to open but one comment says that’s the end of speedway then Gulp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youhave2minutes Posted December 13, 2025 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2025 2 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Story about Oxford stadium in the Oxford paper and £2m debt not paid ? Anyone know what this is about,can’t get story to open but one comment says that’s the end of speedway then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youhave2minutes Posted December 13, 2025 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2025 Just now, Youhave2minutes said: Let’s hope not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmon Posted December 13, 2025 Report Share Posted December 13, 2025 2 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Story about Oxford stadium in the Oxford paper and £2m debt not paid ? Anyone know what this is about,can’t get story to open but one comment says that’s the end of speedway then Is this not the football stadium they are talking about, with the debt having now been paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojangles Posted December 13, 2025 Report Share Posted December 13, 2025 3 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Story about Oxford stadium in the Oxford paper and £2m debt not paid ? Anyone know what this is about,can’t get story to open but one comment says that’s the end of speedway then It's a typical Oxford Mail sensationalist headline. The £2m debt mentioned is actually £2m in creditors and the figure used is from 2023. Direct quote "...the last update on Companies House stating it had creditors worth £2,005,715 at the end of 2023." Speedway at Oxford is in no danger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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