Do we need some new faces ?

[Lionsman66]

Could the Premiership use some new / returning faces to Britian? 

     The pulse needs to race not just tick over & plod on 

[BluPanther]

2 hours ago, Lionsman66 said:

Could the Premiership use some new / returning faces to Britian? 

     The pulse needs to race not just tick over & plod on 

The Premiership needs some teams for any new/returning faces to ride for...

[Daniel Smith]

3 hours ago, Lionsman66 said:

Could the Premiership use some new / returning faces to Britian? 

     The pulse needs to race not just tick over & plod on 

We've had this, even in recent seasons. Sayfutdinov, Janowski, Woffinden (unfortunately breif). Clubs work hard to find new talent but most would rather remain on the continent. 

Number of teams is the biggest problem for the top flight rather than the whose who in the teams. 

[YeOldPitGate]

25 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said:

We've had this, even in recent seasons. Sayfutdinov, Janowski, Woffinden (unfortunately breif). Clubs work hard to find new talent but most would rather remain on the continent. 

Number of teams is the biggest problem for the top flight rather than the whose who in the teams. 

I think we just have to accept the days when 90% of the big guns rode here are gone, however it would be worth having a push on the SGP2 lads there are some great riders coming through the ranks and they may be tempted to the UK for 2-3 years to learn the different types of tracks over here whilst they try and work their way to the top.

[Fromafar]

45 minutes ago, YeOldPitGate said:

I think we just have to accept the days when 90% of the big guns rode here are gone, however it would be worth having a push on the SGP2 lads there are some great riders coming through the ranks and they may be tempted to the UK for 2-3 years to learn the different types of tracks over here whilst they try and work their way to the top.

We can’t even afford these lads.

[PersonalResponsibility]

Yes, yes I think we might do.

[cowboy cookie returns?]

We’d better get some decent rider development going then. Tracks first though

[Hackett]

3 hours ago, Fromafar said:

We can’t even afford these lads.

Seem to recall Phillip Hellstrom Bangs mentioning in an article he would consider the UK as he was struggling to get enough rides. Not sure what he is up to this season , could be an option potentially depending on his average. Slater Lightcap the USA rider but would think the Polish teams will be looking to sign these riders moving forward.

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

17 hours ago, Lionsman66 said:

Could the Premiership use some new / returning faces to Britian? 

     The pulse needs to race not just tick over & plod on 

 

13 hours ago, Fromafar said:

We can’t even afford these lads.

Yet when questions are raised about how one big league could be made to work it is always trotted out that we will just get in 20-30 riders from abroad like its as easy as clicking your fingers.......

[IainB]

26 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said:

 

Yet when questions are raised about how one big league could be made to work it is always trotted out that we will just get in 20-30 riders from abroad like its as easy as clicking your fingers.......

I don't say that... I say that there's plenty of riders already available in the UK that just aren't given a chance in favour of a ready made foreigner

[Fromafar]

25 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said:

 

Yet when questions are raised about how one big league could be made to work it is always trotted out that we will just get in 20-30 riders from abroad like its as easy as clicking your fingers.......

The riders are dictating the Sport as they have done over here for years,bringing it further down every season.Self Interest rules with Promotions.Until these change the Sport is going nowhere.

[YeOldPitGate]

1 hour ago, IainB said:

I don't say that... I say that there's plenty of riders already available in the UK that just aren't given a chance in favour of a ready made foreigner

Also think there's merit in trying to forge stronger ties with Aus and the USA to try and help them get more youngsters set up they could send our way later, agree its probably to late with the Dane's and Swedes now as most of their better younger riders just skip the UK and head straight to Poland and with better money and easier logistics its easy to see why.

[IainB]

5 minutes ago, YeOldPitGate said:

Also think there's merit in trying to forge stronger ties with Aus and the USA to try and help them get more youngsters set up they could send our way later, agree its probably to late with the Dane's and Swedes now as most of their better younger riders just skip the UK and head straight to Poland and with better money and easier logistics its easy to see why.

I fear it may also be too late for the Aussies and Yanks... more recently a lot of them have started their careers elsewhere in Europe rather than the UK, it's never too late to try and reverse that trend though.

[THE DEAN MACHINE]

While fans crow about woffinden dudek laguta, madsen and riders like that not riding in England, we should really be looking at riders like woryna, drabik, buckowski and locatiev, these type of riders while not exactly are at the top are all action out and out racers who don’t give an inch, I love watching these riders in the polish leagues and would love to see them over here where I believe fans would love their no nonsense racing 

[Fromafar]

56 minutes ago, IainB said:

I fear it may also be too late for the Aussies and Yanks... more recently a lot of them have started their careers elsewhere in Europe rather than the UK, it's never too late to try and reverse that trend though.

It’s simple, riders ambitions are not centred on a career in UK Speedway nowadays as compared to the Past.

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

3 hours ago, IainB said:

I don't say that... I say that there's plenty of riders already available in the UK that just aren't given a chance in favour of a ready made foreigner

 

3 hours ago, Fromafar said:

The riders are dictating the Sport as they have done over here for years,bringing it further down every season.Self Interest rules with Promotions.Until these change the Sport is going nowhere.

So basically we are headed for (at best) a semi professional set up I the UK

1 hour ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

While fans crow about woffinden dudek laguta, madsen and riders like that not riding in England, we should really be looking at riders like woryna, drabik, buckowski and locatiev, these type of riders while not exactly are at the top are all action out and out racers who don’t give an inch, I love watching these riders in the polish leagues and would love to see them over here where I believe fans would love their no nonsense racing 

See above - if that is true and we can't even attract and afford up and coming U21 riders what chance those in the category you mention

I'm coming to the conclusion that there will not be any common ground between enough clubs to be able to get ANYTHING agreed let alone work

UK Speedway is f@c£Ed barring a miracle influx of cash from a currently unforseen siurce

 

[IainB]

14 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said:

 

So basically we are headed for (at best) a semi professional set up I the UK

See above - if that is true and we can't even attract and afford up and coming U21 riders what chance those in the category you mention

I'm coming to the conclusion that there will not be any common ground between enough clubs to be able to get ANYTHING agreed let alone work

UK Speedway is f@c£Ed barring a miracle influx of cash from a currently unforseen siurce

 

By jove... I think he's got it 😂

[Racin Jason 72]

22 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said:

 

So basically we are headed for (at best) a semi professional set up I the UK

See above - if that is true and we can't even attract and afford up and coming U21 riders what chance those in the category you mention

I'm coming to the conclusion that there will not be any common ground between enough clubs to be able to get ANYTHING agreed let alone work

UK Speedway is f@c£Ed barring a miracle influx of cash from a currently unforseen siurce

 

And even a huge influx of cash will only delay the inevitable. 
we need a independent body with a long term plan.  Two divisions of similar size with promotion and relegation.  
two of British speedways successes are Team GB and BSN. Both nothing to do with current promotions. 

[mikebv]

54 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said:

 

So basically we are headed for (at best) a semi professional set up I the UK

See above - if that is true and we can't even attract and afford up and coming U21 riders what chance those in the category you mention

I'm coming to the conclusion that there will not be any common ground between enough clubs to be able to get ANYTHING agreed let alone work

UK Speedway is f@c£Ed barring a miracle influx of cash from a currently unforseen siurce

 

As was always going to be the ultimate outcome from around two decades ago...

Short term decision making , after short term decision making, after short term decision making...

Years of....

No Leadership, No Strategy, No Vision, and No Growth Plan....

A perfect scenario to deliver precisely what we have today...

No surprises though, as what we have today has been called out as the only outcome possible, on here, for years....

You can only presume therefore, that the Promoters didn't see the obvious only outcome of their year on year actions..?

Which, given they are the ones trying to sort out the current self inflicted situation, doesn't exactly fill you with confidence does it?

 

[YeOldPitGate]

2 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

While fans crow about woffinden dudek laguta, madsen and riders like that not riding in England, we should really be looking at riders like woryna, drabik, buckowski and locatiev, these type of riders while not exactly are at the top are all action out and out racers who don’t give an inch, I love watching these riders in the polish leagues and would love to see them over here where I believe fans would love their no nonsense racing 

Don't think you will find to many crowing over Laguta in the UK Dean.