IainB Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 4 minutes ago, Mr Blobby said: Sure I said earlier in this thread, but we agreed this date as Dan was available as his polish club said he wasn’t needed. They then changed their mind during the week and if they call upon him he has to be there. Good news going forward however is unless they plan on using him in the 1-7 and there’s a fixtures clash in the UK they won’t call on him to be the number 8 and allows him to ride here instead. Nice to see a polish club willing to compromise for a change. Lodz changed their mind, Howarth changed his mind it's a bit of an omnishambles the only winners in this are Berwick DT lost he chose to travel to Poland for no Speedway Edinburgh lost, literally at Berwick DT's team mates lost, unlikely to progress in the BSN series, therefore the rest of the team miss 2 extra pay days The fans lost, seeing a competitive Speedway match. Even Lodz could only muster a draw, maybe if they had used DT they could have scraped a win. The guest facility is being totally abused now, as far as I know it only used to be available for injuries or official international duties... now it's a free for all, rider choosing to travel elsewhere, guest, rider going on holiday during the season for a week, guest... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 11 minutes ago, Mr Blobby said: Sure I said earlier in this thread, but we agreed this date as Dan was available as his polish club said he wasn’t needed. They then changed their mind during the week and if they call upon him he has to be there. Good news going forward however is unless they plan on using him in the 1-7 and there’s a fixtures clash in the UK they won’t call on him to be the number 8 and allows him to ride here instead. Nice to see a polish club willing to compromise for a change. " he has to be there" really surely its his choice! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler42 Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 Why did Edinburgh go with R/R last night, was there no one available or was it to save money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 8 minutes ago, IainB said: Lodz changed their mind, Howarth changed his mind it's a bit of an omnishambles the only winners in this are Berwick DT lost he chose to travel to Poland for no Speedway Edinburgh lost, literally at Berwick DT's team mates lost, unlikely to progress in the BSN series, therefore the rest of the team miss 2 extra pay days The fans lost, seeing a competitive Speedway match. Even Lodz could only muster a draw, maybe if they had used DT they could have scraped a win. The guest facility is being totally abused now, as far as I know it only used to be available for injuries or official international duties... now it's a free for all, rider choosing to travel elsewhere, guest, rider going on holiday during the season for a week, guest... ... oh and Kyle Howarth who got home 15 minutes earlier 😂 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 9 minutes ago, tyler42 said: Why did Edinburgh go with R/R last night, was there no one available or was it to save money? Let down last minute by Howarth then tried other riders who didn’t want to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 14 minutes ago, geoff100 said: " he has to be there" really surely its his choice! In his contract or a heavy fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 16 minutes ago, IainB said: Lodz changed their mind, Howarth changed his mind it's a bit of an omnishambles the only winners in this are Berwick DT lost he chose to travel to Poland for no Speedway Edinburgh lost, literally at Berwick DT's team mates lost, unlikely to progress in the BSN series, therefore the rest of the team miss 2 extra pay days The fans lost, seeing a competitive Speedway match. Even Lodz could only muster a draw, maybe if they had used DT they could have scraped a win. The guest facility is being totally abused now, as far as I know it only used to be available for injuries or official international duties... now it's a free for all, rider choosing to travel elsewhere, guest, rider going on holiday during the season for a week, guest... As above not a case of choosing he has to or would get fined a fortune. Om sure if you ask him he would tell you he’d of rather been at Berwick riding and making money than standing in the pits in Poland. You can always chip in to the thousands he’d get fined for not going if he happens again seeing it’s bothering you so much. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 2 minutes ago, Mr Blobby said: In his contract or a heavy fine. a contract he chose to sign... No rider should be signing a contract that demands they should be present with no guarantee of a ride 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler42 Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 5 minutes ago, Mr Blobby said: Let down last minute by Howarth then tried other riders who didn’t want to do it. Thank you. I'm surprised riders turned it down. They are always saying they are skint !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 (edited) 33 minutes ago, IainB said: Lodz changed their mind, Howarth changed his mind it's a bit of an omnishambles the only winners in this are Berwick DT lost he chose to travel to Poland for no Speedway Edinburgh lost, literally at Berwick DT's team mates lost, unlikely to progress in the BSN series, therefore the rest of the team miss 2 extra pay days The fans lost, seeing a competitive Speedway match. Even Lodz could only muster a draw, maybe if they had used DT they could have scraped a win. The guest facility is being totally abused now, as far as I know it only used to be available for injuries or official international duties... now it's a free for all, rider choosing to travel elsewhere, guest, rider going on holiday during the season for a week, guest... Let's be fair... There isn't any real rewards for winning any UK Competition, therefore promoters see their role as just putting out a Speedway meeting.... There are only three boxes that UK Speedway feel need ticking... Riders getting the chance to earn money... Fans getting to see Speedway racing... Promoters, Referees, and the Track Volunteers, all getting to enjoy their main hobby... To measure UK Speedway against other "professional" team sports is pretty much like measuring chalk to cheese.. The irony, of course, is that the money needed to be brought in to the sport to make it "relevant" and to give it some "prestige" will never happen, as no major brands would ever associate themselves with UK Speedway given the "erratic" way it is ran, hence Competition Sponsors are usually always "in-house" and connected to the sport in some way.. What we have, is pretty much all there is, which, let's be brutally honest, isn't going to last too much longer when all the "veteran" Double Uppers start to wain or retire... (And should Poland make riders pick only one league extra to ride in, it could bring the end quicker)... Ironically, when these things happen, it actually may mean those who run the UK version of the sport do eventually, through necessity, realise that "something new" just could be required.. Edit. I will add a fourth box to be ticked.. Winning at home, with winning away not a priority box to be ticked, as it can cost too much... Edited May 3 by mikebv 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 17 minutes ago, IainB said: ... oh and Kyle Howarth who got home 15 minutes earlier 😂 That's fifteen quid of diesel saved both ways.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelinehugger Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 33 minutes ago, IainB said: Lodz changed their mind, Howarth changed his mind it's a bit of an omnishambles the only winners in this are Berwick DT lost he chose to travel to Poland for no Speedway Edinburgh lost, literally at Berwick DT's team mates lost, unlikely to progress in the BSN series, therefore the rest of the team miss 2 extra pay days The fans lost, seeing a competitive Speedway match. Even Lodz could only muster a draw, maybe if they had used DT they could have scraped a win. The guest facility is being totally abused now, as far as I know it only used to be available for injuries or official international duties... now it's a free for all, rider choosing to travel elsewhere, guest, rider going on holiday during the season for a week, guest... Absolute piss take 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksman Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 Funnily enough, Kyle Howarth probably cost Workington a place in the BSN semis by taking the booking here instead of at Berwick. He would of scored way more than the 3 R/R got for Edinburgh, the Comets would have got beat at home anyways whoever guested. Plus he also didn't match what Cookie would of scored 😆 Simon Lambert was on standby to ride at No.2 but then couldn't make it, would have ran R/R for Cook instead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelinehugger Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 20 minutes ago, IainB said: a contract he chose to sign... No rider should be signing a contract that demands they should be present with no guarantee of a ride It’s bloody ridiculous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelinehugger Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 14 minutes ago, mikebv said: Let's be fair... There isn't any real rewards for winning any UK Competition, therefore promoters see their role as just putting out a Speedway meeting.... There are only three boxes that UK Speedway feel need ticking... Riders getting the chance to earn money... Fans getting to see Speedway racing... Promoters, Referees, and the Track Volunteers, all getting to enjoy their main hobby... To measure UK Speedway against other "professional" team sports is pretty much like measuring chalk to cheese.. The irony, of course, is that the money needed to be brought in to the sport to make it "relevant" and to give it some "prestige" will never happen, as no major brands would ever associate themselves with UK Speedway given the "erratic" way it is ran, hence Competition Sponsors are usually always "in-house" and connected to the sport in some way.. What we have, is pretty much all there is, which, let's be brutally honest, isn't going to last too much longer when all the "veteran" Double Uppers start to wain or retire... (And should Poland make riders pick only one league extra to ride in, it could bring the end quicker)... Ironically, when these things happen, it actually may mean those who run the UK version of the sport do eventually, through necessity, realise that "something new" just could be required.. Edit. I will add a fourth box to be ticked.. Winning at home, with winning away not a priority box to be ticked, as it can cost too much... great post 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 3 hours ago, Mr Blobby said: Let down last minute by Howarth then tried other riders who didn’t want to do it. Perhaps somebody pointed out the utter absurdity of guesting for a team in your own club's three team group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWellBehavedWorrall Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 I can’t believe Berwick actually won the bonus point after Friday night‘s result.😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mgas Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 1 hour ago, Bagpuss said: Perhaps somebody pointed out the utter absurdity of guesting for a team in your own club's three team group. Someone forgot to tell Flint and Hagon they were both brilliant on Saturday. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 2 hours ago, Bagpuss said: Perhaps somebody pointed out the utter absurdity of guesting for a team in your own club's three team group. Didn’t stop hagon and flint banging in double figures and knocking their own team out 😂 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 7 minutes ago, Mr Blobby said: Didn’t stop hagon and flint banging in double figures and knocking their own team out 😂 Bonkers way to run a competition isn't it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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