Lions v Witches, Monday 6th July

[mikebv]

Just now, lewy said:

Lawson is great at working the system  last week he was injured for 1day this week taken ill but I'm sure he will be feeling better in a day or 2. The other one he's used was he was waiting for a new passport to arrive 😂for a polish fixture i believe it's quite amusing really and sums up the state of British speedway that he gets away with it.

Imagine if the sport was ran properly, with independent leadership in place..?

All this nonsense simply wouldn't be allowed to take place and damage it....

Which is exactly why we will never have independent leadership, as everyone is happy to be complicit in making things up as and when they need to..

[TTT]

Good too see Tom scoring some points tonight albeit tailed off in the big Heats.

Tobi Musielak has filled the void left by Doyley and it's a crime if he's not the first name on the 2027 team sheet.

[PhilTheAce]

30 minutes ago, lewy said:

Lawson is great at working the system  last week he was injured for 1day this week taken ill but I'm sure he will be feeling better in a day or 2. The other one he's used was he was waiting for a new passport to arrive 😂for a polish fixture i believe it's quite amusing really and sums up the state of British speedway that he gets away with it.

Trouble is his clubs let him get away with all this nonsense. 

[TB1]

1 minute ago, PhilTheAce said:

Trouble is his clubs let him get away with all this nonsense. 

Don't disagree but hobsons choice when you don't have any competitors? Once again the sport has failed its customers.

[Racin Jason 72]

2 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said:

Trouble is his clubs let him get away with all this nonsense. 

I have a feeling that Ipswich won’t.  

[Neila]

36 minutes ago, lewy said:

Lawson is great at working the system  last week he was injured for 1day this week taken ill but I'm sure he will be feeling better in a day or 2. The other one he's used was he was waiting for a new passport to arrive 😂for a polish fixture i believe it's quite amusing really and sums up the state of British speedway that he gets away with it.

Unfortunately no Poole fixtures this week, so if/when Mr Lawson gets a 7 day ban he won't miss a fixture. 

[PhilTheAce]

4 minutes ago, Racin Jason 72 said:

I have a feeling that Ipswich won’t.  

I say this respectfully, i hope this is the case. He needs to learn a hard lesson. 

 

Hes a good rider. Imagine he took it seriously. How good would he be 

[PhilTheAce]

2 minutes ago, Neila said:

Unfortunately no Poole fixtures this week, so if/when Mr Lawson gets a 7 day ban he won't miss a fixture. 

He will miss Ipswich Thursday. 

 

A simple way to fix this would be. If you miss due to illness you miss your next fixture for your clubs. 

[Bluekevin]

2 minutes ago, Neila said:

Unfortunately no Poole fixtures this week, so if/when Mr Lawson gets a 7 day ban he won't miss a fixture. 

Do not worry he will be at werky. 

[szkocjasid]

1 hour ago, Marky_Mark said:

Falling ill on the day is too open to abuse though isn’t it, you could use it to bring track specialists guests in. If someone is genuinely ill on the day of the meeting and gets a doctor’s note then it’s indisputable as you have an independent sign off so in that case you get a guest?  If you pull out a couple of hours before the meeting en route without a doctor’s note then it could be abused. 

Not saying that’s what’s happened here as I don’t know the facts or what’s wrong with Rich but that’s just my interpretation of how the rules work. 

The 7 day suspension should stop that happening though?

Mind you with fewer fixtures these days, riders probably won't miss much.

What I don't get about the guest rules, lets say I suggest you shouldn't get a facility if a rider misses a match to race abroad, the response is normally "that will lower the crowd / it's not fair on the fans / it's not fair on the team" - but in an instance like this when no facility is allowed, all those reasons don't matter?

Edited 3 hours ago by szkocjasid

[mikebv]

Riders receive six month bans starting in October and ending in March...

But only if the season starts in April...

Independent Leadership anyone?...

[flagrag]

2 hours ago, PhilTheAce said:

He will miss Ipswich Thursday. 

 

A simple way to fix this would be. If you miss due to illness you miss your next fixture for your clubs. 

Richard let the Ipswich management know he was running late and that he would miss the track walk and asked another mechanic to fit a tyre for him as would be there for the parade but then at 6:25 rang back said he was feeling ill and had turned around to head home. 

They advised him to continue to the track and just get there when he could so the medic could sign him out the meeting officially I assume they could then use IRR but he wouldn’t do that so then frantic phone calls were made to get Freddy Hodder to ride who did a decent job and looked on the pace .

I have it on good authority that Richard Coleman was not at all impressed with Lawsons attitude so will be interesting to see if any action is taken against him. 

[RoundTheBoards]

Not really sure what all the hysterics here are about.

Riders do get ill, like the rest of us.  I have no idea what Lawson's illness was, or the severity of it, but it's quite possible to be ill.

Ipswich could have used a guest facility.  All they need to do is produce a doctors' note within 24 hours of the meeting taking place.  (But this would have resulted in Lawson being suspended for 7 days for a non-speedway illness).

With it all being at such short notice it looks like it was impossible to get a guest, and the only cover they could find was Freddy Hodder (who lives 10 minutes from the Leicester track).

So it made sense to not use a facility for Lawson, and use the only option available (Hodder) who fits well within the "no facility" criteria.  (up to 75% of Lawson's average).  That way with Ipswich not using a facility, Lawson isn't suspended.