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31 minutes ago, gjcone44 said:

ill be making the effort to go tomorrow,

Effort? Steady on🤣
Is that a deep armchair your trying to get out of.😂

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8 minutes ago, bellevueace said:

I know injuries are part and parcel of the game but the amount of guests/rider replacements this season seems worse than at any other time, who really cares about this so called "league"? 

197 in the top two leagues last year...

Well on track to eclipse that this year with one less team..

The Speedway Star included some analysis a few weeks ago, and, I think, it was circa 40% of the Guests used were not for injuries but fixture clashes and illnesses... 

I think most believe that the framework is basically set up to give enthusiastic promoters, who love being involved in Speedway, a chance to run a track, with a large part of their plan being to generate as many opportunities for riders to ride, so they can justify their large equipment outlay, and earn a decent salary for six months work...

 

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53 minutes ago, mikebv said:

197 in the top two leagues last year...

Well on track to eclipse that this year with one less team..

The Speedway Star included some analysis a few weeks ago, and, I think, it was circa 40% of the Guests used were not for injuries but fixture clashes and illnesses... 

I think most believe that the framework is basically set up to give enthusiastic promoters, who love being involved in Speedway, a chance to run a track, with a large part of their plan being to generate as many opportunities for riders to ride, so they can justify their large equipment outlay, and earn a decent salary for six months work...

 

Looking at guest usage over the last 10 years or so and it's remarkably consistent with 2017 being a particularly bad year, not that any of it makes for good reading. But I think the reasoning for the usage of guests is being abused far more in recent seasons than in the past when generally it was for injuries and international duties. 

 

 

Season Estimated league & play-off matches Guest appearances Guests per 100 matches
2016 ~350 350 100
2017 ~270 340 126
2018 ~240 255 106
2019 ~235 250 106
2020 0 0
2021 ~190 225 118
2022 ~180 205 114
2023 ~185 215 116
2024 ~185 220 119
2025 ~170 198 116

What it shows

  • 2016: ~100 guest bookings per 100 matches.
  • 2025: ~116 guest bookings per 100 matches.

So despite there being fewer clubs and fewer fixtures, the rate of guest use has actually increased by about 16% compared with 2016.

Another way to express it:

  • 2016: roughly 1 guest booking every match.
  • 2025: roughly 1.16 guest bookings every match.

I think this is the strongest statistic because it compares like with like instead of just counting total guests.

 

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2 minutes ago, IainB said:

Looking at guest usage over the last 10 years or so and it's remarkably consistent with 2017 being a particularly bad year, not that any of it makes for good reading. But I think the reasoning for the usage of guests is being abused far more in recent seasons than in the past when generally it was for injuries and international duties. 

 

 

Season Estimated league & play-off matches Guest appearances Guests per 100 matches
2016 ~350 350 100
2017 ~270 340 126
2018 ~240 255 106
2019 ~235 250 106
2020 0 0
2021 ~190 225 118
2022 ~180 205 114
2023 ~185 215 116
2024 ~185 220 119
2025 ~170 198 116

What it shows

  • 2016: ~100 guest bookings per 100 matches.
  • 2025: ~116 guest bookings per 100 matches.

So despite there being fewer clubs and fewer fixtures, the rate of guest use has actually increased by about 16% compared with 2016.

Another way to express it:

  • 2016: roughly 1 guest booking every match.
  • 2025: roughly 1.16 guest bookings every match.

I think this is the strongest statistic because it compares like with like instead of just counting total guests.

 

2020 was a good season to take Speedway seriously in the UK.......:D

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2 hours ago, mikebv said:

197 in the top two leagues last year...

Well on track to eclipse that this year with one less team..

The Speedway Star included some analysis a few weeks ago, and, I think, it was circa 40% of the Guests used were not for injuries but fixture clashes and illnesses... 

I think most believe that the framework is basically set up to give enthusiastic promoters, who love being involved in Speedway, a chance to run a track, with a large part of their plan being to generate as many opportunities for riders to ride, so they can justify their large equipment outlay, and earn a decent salary for six months work...

 

And ideally they have a separate successful business to offset the speedway losses against.

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I can’t help but think the Lions could do something here especially with Lidsey and Zager as ex riders, as always it comes down to whether Klindt gates and whether Batch wants to get stuck in on the first/second bends.

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1 minute ago, marko said:

I can’t help but think the Lions could do something here especially with Lidsey and Zager as ex riders, as always it comes down to whether Klindt gates and whether Batch wants to get stuck in on the first/second bends.

Foxes...

Could the end of tonight see Foxes owner Lemo sacking his manager Chris Adams 🤔

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On 7/12/2026 at 4:24 PM, ouch said:

I’m hoping we are getting the absences out of the way and we don’t get our usual play off curse that sees a significant injury a week or so before the play offs, as has been the case for five out of the last seven play offs. :sad:

The curse is not working, you seem stronger with guests.

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39 minutes ago, IainB said:

Foxes...

Could the end of tonight see Foxes owner Lemo sacking his manager Chris Adams 🤔

The Foxes are not looking good, Zagar gave up after one lap, clearly didn’t want to know, bike was still under power.

Cut to after heat 14 in the booth, Lemo wishes Chris good luck for the final race, and oh by the way, your sacked.

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