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Shambles and not the first time at this track, easy to blame stock cars but Lynn has both, Coventry had both, others tracks have had elements of both where even with a tarmac track the cars still end up rutting up the speedway track.

And let’s not forget it’s not stock cars sharing with speedway, it’s speedway sharing with stock cars, I turned in BSN close to half seven, was going to to give it a couple of races because at least with bomber involved you will have at least one rider who will prove whether the track has anything to it but all I saw was them blading off a ton of dirt leaving a shiny surface, no way were they ever going to race on that. 

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I went to many a track and thought, this looks bad but we had to get on with it and mostly it wasn't at bad as feared. The look of a track is different to how it may feel when it's ridden. 

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Amazing to hear that they staged a junior meeting in the afternoon!  Apparently the surface was tyre-packed afterwards.  Interview with Klindt on BSN, he said it's a known problem, but after doing a track walk he felt it was much worse, possibly because of all the rain this week.

From the view on BSN, blading the shale seemed pointless, because they were just back to the shiny clay - it would have taken an age to try to relay the surface.

As it is, the riders never got changed, so weren't remotely interested in riding.

I'm told that turnstiles weren't closed until the formal announcement at about 19:25 ...

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Another reason for any TV deal to just do a highlights package using the club streams...

Too many times meetings don't happen due to weather predictions, riders not liking the track or just simply rain offs..

The sport needs to build a reputation for professionalism, and "live Speedway" going out often doesn't always paint that picture...

Time to edit the best highlights, and interviews covering rider commitments and lifestyles, can start to build that reputation..

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Glad Ipswich knocked us out of the play-offs - we were going as we still had hope of a play off spot, glad I settled for TV and saved myself the 2 hours plus journey each way

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Oh dear.

 I went to the very first opening match and it was known they had practiced in the afternoon, the match afterwards in front of a crowd that must have been at least 3 thousand was effectively ruined, the racing was gate and go with little if any overtaking other that first bend and mistakes.

Its clear from reading this thread today that a junior meeting took place in the afternoon proves that the idiots in charge are just not learning from earlier mistakes, using sub standard track material or don’t have the expertise to lay a track that provides proper racing, clearly the rain didn’t help but weather forecasts exist these days and should be taken into account.

I haven't been to Northampton since but we are looking to attending the Woffinden Testimonial in October, it will be interesting to see if anything has changed, from what I have read this year I fear not much, we will see.

 

 

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1 hour ago, mikebv said:

Another reason for any TV deal to just do a highlights package using the club streams...

Too many times meetings don't happen due to weather predictions, riders not liking the track or just simply rain offs..

The sport needs to build a reputation for professionalism, and "live Speedway" going out often doesn't always paint that picture...

Time to edit the best highlights, and interviews covering rider commitments and lifestyles, can start to build that reputation..

Interesting that the Danish Grand Prix went ahead despite the rain (20 heats)

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Maybe not running again after several days of Stox will be the answer going forward?..

Obviously a huge learning curve this season, but one I am sure they will learn from and improve on..

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1 minute ago, bigcatdiary said:

Interesting that the Danish Grand Prix went ahead despite the rain (20 heats)

Play Offs will do the same over here...

It's the "run of the mill" meetings, that can easily get rearranged, and often then become Guestfests, that get called off the "easiest"...

Those are the nights "live TV" would do the sport no favours...

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Hyde road co existed with stock cars well but Kirky lane did not. Northamptons fixtures need to be set to avoid following on closely from the stock cars and this should be easily achievable within any league of 10 or less. 

It’s all a learning curve and weirdly poor call offs happen to any and every track from time to time and whilst that’s no excuse it’s something for all tracks to learn from. Just this week I’ve seen on the news that football (torrential rain) and ice hockey (ice problem) were cancelled and I’ve had many gigs and theatre shows postponed for various reasons.
This might not be the case last night but speedways big problem is the lack of communication with their customers when problems arise and I think that is what irks fans the most. This is easily corrected. 

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1 hour ago, mikebv said:

Another reason for any TV deal to just do a highlights package using the club streams...

Too many times meetings don't happen due to weather predictions, riders not liking the track or just simply rain offs..

The sport needs to build a reputation for professionalism, and "live Speedway" going out often doesn't always paint that picture...

Time to edit the best highlights, and interviews covering rider commitments and lifestyles, can start to build that reputation..

Agree to a point but if a highlights package only produces a false picture of what attending a meeting is like your setting yourself up to fail because as soon as these people visit most tracks they will see a much different picture and won’t be back.

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1 hour ago, bigcatdiary said:

Interesting that the Danish Grand Prix went ahead despite the rain (20 heats)

Invariably, GPs do go ahead - which shows the influence of money and of the riders (I bet they were all set up in the pits and ready for action). Even so, does Vojens have three days of stock car, hot rod and banger racing a few days before?

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55 minutes ago, marko said:

Agree to a point but if a highlights package only produces a false picture of what attending a meeting is like your setting yourself up to fail because as soon as these people visit most tracks they will see a much different picture and won’t be back.

Absolutely - the on-the-night experience needs to be tightened up, with lots of engaging, interesting interviews, plus noise and colour - it's been proven in other sports (T20 cricket is the obvious example). 

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2 hours ago, mikebv said:

Maybe not running again after several days of Stox will be the answer going forward?..

Obviously a huge learning curve this season, but one I am sure they will learn from and improve on..

3 day meetings are few and far between, especially on shale, but this was a major championship weekend for 2 formulas, with 2 other formulas in support, and many drivers from overseas. It was programmed a year ago (I booked my accommodation in October) so it's not like it was a surprise.

Last night's meeting was supposed to run on 27th August, but was postponed and with the Foxes already having matches programmed on 3rd and 10th September, last night was the only option to run before the cut off.

Good job they didn't qualify for the play offs as there is another 3-dayer at the end of the month, due to another promotion hiring the track for their major event.

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41 minutes ago, Roger Jacobs said:

Invariably, GPs do go ahead - which shows the influence of money and of the riders (I bet they were all set up in the pits and ready for action). Even so, does Vojens have three days of stock car, hot rod and banger racing a few days before?

There were no bangers or hot rods last weekend. 😉

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3 hours ago, marko said:

Agree to a point but if a highlights package only produces a false picture of what attending a meeting is like your setting yourself up to fail because as soon as these people visit most tracks they will see a much different picture and won’t be back.

it was ever thus, though...

Watching Peter Collins on World Of Sport winning ten races, (max) a season from the back, in brilliant fashion, wasn't replicated at Hyde Rd each week given he often won races there by half a straight...

But what he did on WOS got the crowd in to watch him ride for the Aces .

The majority of races since the sport began have been strung out, from the gate, therefore showing highlights, just like World Of Sport showed, will hopefully get people there ..

Then, it is up to the promoters to raise their game (very considerably), in regards to their "on the night" presentation standards off the track, and the entertainment level on it...

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