CHAMPIONSHIP PLAY OFF FINAL - SCUNTHORPE v POOLE v SCUNTHORPE (2 & 7 October)

[SUPERACE]

I didnt watch it live, but i haven't seen a single picture yet that shows the wheel was over the line.  It was obviously very tight, but not enough for an exclusion.

[foreverblue]

2 minutes ago, SUPERACE said:

I didnt watch it live, but i haven't seen a single picture yet that shows the wheel was over the line.  It was obviously very tight, but not enough for an exclusion.

So you think it could be bias against Poole, who would have thought that and David Howe's unbiased assessment was that he saw the wheel was over the line during the race.

[beardybum]

To be honest as a Glasgow fan I don't have a dog in the race. Yes  maybe he was over the line but from every replay the ref saw last night there is no way he could say 100 percent.......so he can't exclude him.

Edited 15 hours ago by beardybum

[False dawn]

From the Edinburgh website:

"Yet another change has been forced upon the Monarchs for our final Scottish Cup meeting on Friday as Michael Palm Toft, after riding well in Scunthorpe's brave Playoff Final performance, suffered an injury following the Superheat"

Elsewhere on the same website:
"....replacing the previously announced Michael Palm Toft, who was involved in a post-race incident after Scunthorpe's contentious Super Heat loss in the Championship play-off final at Poole last night"

Anyone know what happened to MPT?

[Grachan]

Just reading about this "controversy", so I had a look at the Scunthorpe website.

This is the picture on there:

 

Being the Scunthorpe website - and along with a claim in the match report that the wheel was over the line - this would, presumably, be the most "over the line" point in the race. And the whole wheel is quite obviously not entirely over the line. So where is the controversy?

[Fromafar]

30 minutes ago, Grachan said:

Just reading about this "controversy", so I had a look at the Scunthorpe website.

This is the picture on there:

 

Being the Scunthorpe website - and along with a claim in the match report that the wheel was over the line - this would, presumably, be the most "over the line" point in the race. And the whole wheel is quite obviously not entirely over the line. So where is the controversy?

To me it’s inconclusive and if it was over line it was a millisecond and at the angle he was travelling it was a difficult decision for the Ref.Think got it right not to exclude though.

 

[Fromafar]

11 hours ago, False dawn said:

From the Edinburgh website:

"Yet another change has been forced upon the Monarchs for our final Scottish Cup meeting on Friday as Michael Palm Toft, after riding well in Scunthorpe's brave Playoff Final performance, suffered an injury following the Superheat"

Elsewhere on the same website:
"....replacing the previously announced Michael Palm Toft, who was involved in a post-race incident after Scunthorpe's contentious Super Heat loss in the Championship play-off final at Poole last night"

Anyone know what happened to MPT?

Loading bike into Van sounds a good excuse🤔😂😂

[SteveLyric2]

12 hours ago, False dawn said:

From the Edinburgh website:

"Yet another change has been forced upon the Monarchs for our final Scottish Cup meeting on Friday as Michael Palm Toft, after riding well in Scunthorpe's brave Playoff Final performance, suffered an injury following the Superheat"

Elsewhere on the same website:
"....replacing the previously announced Michael Palm Toft, who was involved in a post-race incident after Scunthorpe's contentious Super Heat loss in the Championship play-off final at Poole last night"

Anyone know what happened to MPT?

Possibly choked on his dummy!!

[Trackrat]

16 hours ago, SteveLyric2 said:

I thought he already was!!

What a boring silly old man💦💦

[Arthur54]

56 minutes ago, Trackrat said:

What a boring silly old man💦💦

How's the grapes 🍇 glug glug glug 

[lucifer sam]

2 hours ago, Grachan said:

Just reading about this "controversy", so I had a look at the Scunthorpe website.

This is the picture on there:

 

Being the Scunthorpe website - and along with a claim in the match report that the wheel was over the line - this would, presumably, be the most "over the line" point in the race. And the whole wheel is quite obviously not entirely over the line. So where is the controversy?

The actual rule is:

012.1.11 Leaving the Track A rider whose machine crosses the inner edge of the track with 2 wheels must be disqualified unless, in the opinion of the Referee, the action was taken in the interests of safety for other riders or the rider involved was forced off course by another rider.

 

I would say the wheel does go entirely over the line (remember speedway tyres are not exactly wide), but it didn't need to, in any case.

It's just whether both wheels had crossed the inner edge (in other words, both wheels are entirely or partially on the centre green).  Both wheels quite clearly do. Note the word "must" unless taken in the interests of safety. I don't think passing another rider counts as the interests of safety. It's an automatic exclusion - both wheels were on the centre green. 

[Catalan]

33 minutes ago, lucifer sam said:

The actual rule is:

012.1.11 Leaving the Track A rider whose machine crosses the inner edge of the track with 2 wheels must be disqualified unless, in the opinion of the Referee, the action was taken in the interests of safety for other riders or the rider involved was forced off course by another rider.

 

I would say the wheel does go entirely over the line (remember speedway tyres are not exactly wide), but it didn't need to, in any case.

It's just whether both wheels had crossed the inner edge (in other words, both wheels are entirely or partially on the centre green).  Both wheels quite clearly do. Note the word "must" unless taken in the interests of safety. I don't think passing another rider counts as the interests of safety. It's an automatic exclusion - both wheels were on the centre green. 

Speak to any SCB official and they will tell you both wheels must have crossed the inner white line.

Another rule that will be re written I bet