Oxford 2027

[Gambo95]

On 10/26/2026 at 12:53 PM, InTheDeepStuff said:

Only stipulation is highest averaged ride has to ride at number 1, you can place your other riders anywhere in the 2-5 riding order, but usually have second highest at 5 and third highest at 3 

 

My point was that since Oxford are starting the season with 3 riders with a higher average than the Berwick number 1 then surely Berwick  (and all other teams) should be able to set their teams up as they like. I thought the one over 8 rider per team was to balance out the heat leaders.

If Berwick wants to leave Nick at 5 then they should be able to do that (not gaining any advantage as other teams could do the same).

Berwick are starting the season with no riders with an average over 8.

[Triple.H.]

24 minutes ago, Gambo95 said:

 

My point was that since Oxford are starting the season with 3 riders with a higher average than the Berwick number 1 then surely Berwick  (and all other teams) should be able to set their teams up as they like. I thought the one over 8 rider per team was to balance out the heat leaders.

If Berwick wants to leave Nick at 5 then they should be able to do that (not gaining any advantage as other teams could do the same).

Berwick are starting the season with no riders with an average over 8.

How do you know Berwick aren't starting the season without a rider over 8 ?

[alang]

25 minutes ago, Triple.H. said:

How do you know Berwick aren't starting the season without a rider over 8 ?

 

25 minutes ago, Triple.H. said:

How do you know Berwick aren't starting the season without a rider over 8 ?

Cos they've signed 5 riders already, none of them over 8. Only got just over 8 points left, I think, for 2 riders so unless it's going to be 6 man teams it won't fit with an over 8 point rider. 

[False dawn]

14 minutes ago, alang said:

Cos they've signed 5 riders already, none of them over 8.....

That's a hell of a youth development programme 😂

[InTheDeepStuff]

1 hour ago, Gambo95 said:

 

My point was that since Oxford are starting the season with 3 riders with a higher average than the Berwick number 1 then surely Berwick  (and all other teams) should be able to set their teams up as they like. I thought the one over 8 rider per team was to balance out the heat leaders.

If Berwick wants to leave Nick at 5 then they should be able to do that (not gaining any advantage as other teams could do the same).

Berwick are starting the season with no riders with an average over 8.

Been the rule for a long time that highest averaged rider has to ride at number 1 and lowest two at 6 and 7, if Berwick have built there team more solid throughout then that’s their decision. 

[Robinh88]

6 hours ago, TigerIain said:

Nothing, but they finished top of the league and took the playoff final to a super heat. After last year, I think Oxford would take that.

That made a huge difference to the Glasgow season. I don't see where Oxford will get a rider like that (song 2.5 to their average), and I think that they have went too big on the top 3.

Pre Nagel, Glasgow struggled for heat advantages that year and relied on winning a lot of last heat deciders. From memory the super heat in the playoff final (the one that really mattered) was the only one that went against the Tigers.

Masters, Brennan and Howarth will struggle to increase their averages, Kileen might struggle to improve his as his partner will regularly beat him. Lot of pressure on the bottom 3 to be picking up 3rd places and they will often be facing opposite numbers with much higher averages. If it all clicks though they could win silverware. 

Looking forward to them coming to Ashfield next year, that match already looks like one to watch

Masters and Brennan should improve their aves imo

[InTheDeepStuff]

1 hour ago, Gambo95 said:

 

My point was that since Oxford are starting the season with 3 riders with a higher average than the Berwick number 1 then surely Berwick  (and all other teams) should be able to set their teams up as they like. I thought the one over 8 rider per team was to balance out the heat leaders.

If Berwick wants to leave Nick at 5 then they should be able to do that (not gaining any advantage as other teams could do the same).

Berwick are starting the season with no riders with an average over 8.

Been the rule for a long time that highest averaged rider has to ride at number 1 and lowest two at 6 and 7, if Berwick have built there team more solid throughout then that’s their decision. 

[lewy]

9 minutes ago, InTheDeepStuff said:

Been the rule for a long time that highest averaged rider has to ride at number 1 and lowest two at 6 and 7, if Berwick have built there team more solid throughout then that’s their decision. 

That is not correct, highest at 1 yes,then the 2 lowest at reserve. The rest is down to the team manager. 

[Triple.H.]

3 hours ago, alang said:

 

Cos they've signed 5 riders already, none of them over 8. Only got just over 8 points left, I think, for 2 riders so unless it's going to be 6 man teams it won't fit with an over 8 point rider. 

All signings subject to approval by the BSPL.

So any teams current plans can be blown out of the water by promoters  spitting their dummies out.

[Neila]

23 minutes ago, Triple.H. said:

All signings subject to approval by the BSPL.

So any teams current plans can be blown out of the water by promoters  spitting their dummies out.

Has happened before could happen again 🤔

[RoundTheBoards]

1 hour ago, lewy said:

That is not correct, highest at 1 yes,then the 2 lowest at reserve. The rest is down to the team manager. 

That's the same as he said.

[lewy]

7 hours ago, RoundTheBoards said:

That's the same as he said.

My mistake read it wrong 🤡

[Mgas]

9 hours ago, Triple.H. said:

All signings subject to approval by the BSPL.

So any teams current plans can be blown out of the water by promoters  spitting their dummies out.

Does Jamie Courtney get 2 votes? He obviously believes what he is doing with both lots of team building is correct.

[TigerIain]

1 hour ago, Mgas said:

Does Jamie Courtney get 2 votes? He obviously believes what he is doing with both lots of team building is correct.

As he promotes 2 clubs then yes. He might not actually cast the vote for each but effectively they will vote the same. 

I suspect that other clubs are just as far on with their team building but just haven't went public yet

[Fromafar]

11 hours ago, Neila said:

Has happened before could happen again 🤔

Is there any thing so stupid as subject to approval though,obvious the subject has been discussed with those that matter.Its the usual shambles of an organisation.

[Gambo95]

30 minutes ago, Fromafar said:

Is there any thing so stupid as subject to approval though,obvious the subject has been discussed with those that matter.Its the usual shambles of an organisation.

Seem to recall Berwick signing Jake Allen on a 5 point average, Aussie's were then reassessed to 7 points for that season only so Berwick didn't sign him.

It does appear to happen that the rules are changed to suit certain teams

[StevePark]

2 hours ago, TigerIain said:

As he promotes 2 clubs then yes. He might not actually cast the vote for each but effectively they will vote the same. 

I suspect that other clubs are just as far on with their team building but just haven't went public yet

As far as I'm aware, Jamie isn't a promoter at Berwick. Only Steve Dews and Sarah Bulman are listed as promoters.  Jamie is the Owner.

[SteveLyric2]

2 hours ago, Fromafar said:

Is there any thing so stupid as subject to approval though,obvious the subject has been discussed with those that matter.Its the usual shambles of an organisation.

The 'subject to approval' has always been there just in case any promoter used the wrong average for a particular rider OR got their team total wrong by 0.01 of a point!?😇