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While all your points are valid, they are under the current system of running the sport, which doesn’t work anymore,if things were to change within the current financial structure of the sport and from what I believe they are changing (I hope they are )then the changes needed may work, I understand it’s not going to be popular and I can see some kicking and screaming but what’s the alternative? The alternative is the end and that suits nobody, I had a long chat with someone at Birmingham last night (not connected to Bham)about finances and although I sort of already knew but it was quite staggering to hear just how far from the point which imo we should be operating at we have gone as a sport and it goes right from top to bottom and it’s unsustainable
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Agree.Back to basics has to be the answer.
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We can all see the problems but no one, myself included, has the answers. Let me give you just a couple of examples that will have to be faced. Say I run a team in a rented stadium, the landlord wants to increase the rent. My crowd is decreasing by 10%-15% or thereabouts every season but the fans want a reduction in admittance charges. How do I balance the books? My imaginary no.1 is on points money in my championship league and typically picks up between £900-£1200 on a good night. He also rides in the Premiership and is paid a ‘guarantee’ of around £2,000 ( or more in certain clubs) a meeting. The fans want the sport to go ‘ one league ‘, you think the rider wants that and cut his earnings by half ? Then theres the matter of which team he wants to ride for as he is always going to pick the clubs who pay best leaving half the ‘one league’ with the riders who aren't in demand elsewhere. I could go on but wont, the problems are massive. There are only a handful of clubs who can balance the books , the rest rely on generous sponsors or rich owners, one league would kill the smaller clubs without major changes on how the sport is run. You think those that are choking the sport at the moment have the brains to make dramatic changes ? I fear not.
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Poole vs Glasgow KOC SF 1st leg 27/08/25
LisaColette replied to LisaColette's topic in SGB Championship League Speedway
Only if BSN cover it. -
Foreverblue yawn yawn 🥱 😴
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Poole vs Glasgow KOC SF 1st leg 27/08/25
Fromafar replied to LisaColette's topic in SGB Championship League Speedway
No chance -
Poole vs Glasgow KOC SF 1st leg 27/08/25
foreverblue replied to LisaColette's topic in SGB Championship League Speedway
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I visited Perry Barr earlier in the season to watch the Lions and paid by card for me and the missus at the entrance. I say ‘paid’, but to this day no money has left my account. This could be a blip, but may have happened to others (who are hardly going to shout up are they?…..although they can now!). Whilst this isn’t the straw that breaks the camel’s back, it does imply sloppiness of a club needing to seemingly count every penny.
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Redcar Vs Scunthorpe 22/8/25
SteveLyric2 replied to Fozzie4388's topic in SGB Championship League Speedway
Totally untrue. - Today
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Poole vs Glasgow KOC SF 1st leg 27/08/25
SteveLyric2 replied to LisaColette's topic in SGB Championship League Speedway
Rain due throughout the day til late afternoon, but all the extra shale on the track should soak it up nicely. If Tiggers fans can't make it you can watch on Pirates TV (Link on website). Hopefully for us Pirate fans who can't travel to Glasgow on 7/9 there will also be a stream available...........!? (One can only hope). -
Whatever you want........!?😄
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Redcar Vs Scunthorpe 22/8/25
crescent girl replied to Fozzie4388's topic in SGB Championship League Speedway
Well, that's not true. What do you reckon Mr Vatcher's role is within the BSPL? -
Spot on comment about there being an appetite for Speedway... At the NSS there have been two good crowds this year, yesterday and the PCMM... One being ran on a BHM and the other being ran early in the season with a top class field.. If those who attended, me included, saw enough in the product to attend more regularly then 2000 plus crowds would be the norm... Running on a normal Monday simply restricts crowds, weekend is "leisure time".. Running several meetings as "meaningless", as the play off positions are set in stone from May, simply restricts crowds... And running meetings when you know (well in advance) that riders will be missing, but happily replacing them with competitor's employees, simply restricts crowds.. It costs me over fifty quid for me and my lad as he works PT and has much better things to spend his money on, meaning we attend three, maybe four times a season.. Get it down to thirty quid for us both and it would easily be double figure attendance for us both... Personally, given the Mickey Mouse operating model, neither of us care who wins (like many others who sporadically attend), as the credibility of the competitions is almost zero, but we do love watching the racing at the NSS as it can be breathtaking... As you say, that disconnect needs to be sorted... They could start by running meetings on the best night for the fans to attend in the highest numbers.. Run with less riders per team to make supply exceed demand for adhoc and longer term replacements, which then brings credibility.... And set an admission fee that reflects the standing of the sport in the UK, and the 15 mins or so of entertainment that is actually on offer... The core product is still very watchable, the nonsense surrounding it doesn't do it any favours...
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Polish Extraleague U 24 league 2025
stewmac replied to racers and royals's topic in International World of Speedway
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My car is in front of the stand....
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Poole vs Glasgow KOC SF 1st leg 27/08/25
scaramanga replied to LisaColette's topic in SGB Championship League Speedway
if Glasgow are going well we might se the self releasing tape rubber bands again -
Redcar Vs Scunthorpe 22/8/25
PhilTheAce replied to Fozzie4388's topic in SGB Championship League Speedway
Well, it was the BSPL. But they kind of the same thing, both run by Neil vatcher -
Birmingham Speedway
THE DEAN MACHINE replied to The H Man's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
As I always remember Buxton on a Sunday afternoon 😂 https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1Drx3Jhkod/?mibextid=wwXIfr -
Poole vs Glasgow KOC SF 1st leg 27/08/25
Weeyin replied to LisaColette's topic in SGB Championship League Speedway
I am well aware that he rides in Denmark, Sweden, Poland and every under 21 and 19 individual meetings, he is delightful to watch , just frustrating that he is away so much. Glad his average has increased but I don't think they equal what he would do. -
And lots of Aces fans too.... Perfect for a Sunday afternoon in the countryside at NDL level, so no issues with missing riders being elsewhere...