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They should stick to the 4 man Team formula,even though the lesser Nations don’t have International standard riders their lesser riders are the same standard which produced some decent racing between them.This pairs Semi-Finals just need to be scrapped.

This month's edition will feature Twenty isn't plenty - a look at large KO Cup leads that weren't enough The BLs First Season - October 1965 More than retired hurt - riders who retired after injury The big boys are coming - inter division meetings That's All Folks - a final goodbye classicspeedwaymemories.webador.co.uk/october-2025

I’m not trying to bombard you to change anything. Just trying to help you and others to appreciate the lack of riders available to enable one big league to have any kind of possibility of coming to fruition. To help further here below is a detailed explanation provided by RoundTheBoard earlier in this topic. “One big league, running on any racenight, would automatically rule out anyone who races in the Polish leagues. Gone would be: Max Fricke, Jack Holder, Brady Kurtz, Dan Bewley, Emil Sayfutdinov, Jaimon Lidsey, Josh Pickering, Ryan Douglas, Jason Doyle, Michael Jepsen-Jensen, Chris Holder, Tom Brennan, Luke Becker, Jan Kvech, Tobias Musielak, Nicolai Klindt, Matej Zagar, Keynan Rew, Ben Cook, Maciej Janowski, Rohan Tungate, Norick Blodorn, Francis Gusts. So that's 23 riders gone from Britain. So what will the Premiership bring to a new combined league? JUST ADAM ELLIS ! Every other rider who ride in the Premiership in 2025 (apart from Adam Ellis) doubled up into the Championship. We can't count them twice. So, the 5 teams joining the "One Big League" (Belle Vue, King's Lynn, Ipswich, Leicester, Sheffield) are bringing Adam Ellis to the party, but they need 5 x 7 = 35 riders. So these big 5 need to take 34 of the doubling up riders.... The remaining 9 championship clubs need 9 x 7 = 63 riders..... but 34 of them are not availsble because they can no longer double up. So suddenly we need a further 34 riders. Where are they coming from? We could look to the National League, but many of the NDL riders already double-up into the Championship, others are still only 15 years old, so even if we take every NDL rider right down to the lowest 3.00 newcomer, we still can't get close to filling 14 "One Big League" teams.” So whilst I understand that some may say my figure of 45 riders missing is too high as you can see (hopefully) see by adding those riders who double up and those riding on the continent who would need to give the UK a miss 45 is in truth slightly conservative. looking ahead - I would not be surprised if for 2026 we see a reduction of riders being allowed to double up via reduced team building averages in the championship. Eight teams in the top flight league and no NDL. Please note, that’s a prediction and not saying what I would do. That’s something entirely different.

Thats the gamble You could recapture some lost support or it could drive away the little that is left......

In my opinion if Mr Tophat did take it over don’t have Mr Roger’s involvement in it because it will close end of season with him running things So my message being get rid run it yourself then speedway will stay

That's almost certainly one of the worst SON/SWC meetings I've ever had the misfortune to watch. Dreadful. My main takeaways from that were: a) don't host anything in Poland that doesn't directly involve Poland - who knew? b) don't host one of the flagship international meetings of the season in October - who knew? c) if you're going to televise a meeting in a 20,000 seat arena when there are 14 people in attendance, maybe don't continually show drone shots of said arena, highlighting the 19,986 empty seats. d) if the rules allow team managers to chop and change riders and gate positions at the drop of a hat, for christ's sake let the commentator know. I don't need to hear Kelvin telling us he "thinks" it's rider X or he's "fairly sure" Rider Y is on gate 1 - it's amateurish. Other than that, it wasn't bad, some decent racing.

Would be nice to see some good support with a great atmosphere ! And I don’t mean a hostile or provocative won, more like a party / celebration with flags, tops, scarfs and just showing your support to whatever team you support 👊🏻 What are you allowed in Hydroscan arena? ex. In Foxhall isn’t allowed anything noisy due to the houses?😂

yes I'm thinking of coming down to Leicester on Monday v Ipswich..😁

Not failing to recognise, I appreciate but don’t completely agree with your opinion and won’t be bombarded into changing my own to suit. We would lose riders, but 45 is extreme. Some would stay. The one league would of course only work with multiple race nights. That’s where there would need to be a work around, it absolutely means a lower standard sadly. The up and comers may decide to go elsewhere when they reach a good standard. Or the promoters could do their job and in that time make Britain a more than viable option for them to stay and even for other riders to come race here. Nobody truly wants the standard to drop, doing so for the long term future of having a sport to watch is the only reason I’d accept as a fan if communicated clearly. We’ve reached the point it has to happen. Clubs are falling like dominoes. Two leagues with no doubling up calls for one or two existing Championship teams to step up and move to a race night they don’t want, rocking their boats massively and unnecessarily for the benefit of others. It also then makes the second tier incredibly weak with the left over riders. That’s bad for those businesses. How is that fair when the second tier isn’t the one killing clubs hand over fist. Cut your cloth accordingly and be punished with promotion. To continue with doubling up (beyond between the “professional” and “development” leagues) just shows massive contempt for fans. It would be the ultimate middle finger, the band playing along happily as the Titanic sinks. The sport is (or at least should be) a whole, the whole sport needs to share the burden of the mess it’s got itself into, not give an apathetic “what can we do there’s not enough riders?”

No.

Today as well

Not me, I’ve spoke out about holta and even some polish riders were not happy about him riding as a pole, I even refused to go to a British final where Rory Schlien rode, in my book when you have represented your country in an official event you shouldn’t be allowed to race for another country, loram and woffinden have never tried to swap nations

Yes but the homegrown will only earn enough dough to ride a moped! And punters won't pay 25 notes for the privilege.

So do you not think Poole will want Vinnie back, if the numbers add up then ?

Practice and sprint racing are an unnecessary evil. Turning up, having a draw and guessing the set ups would make it a far more level playing field I my opinion.

Yup……..and I recognised every one of them……..🤣

There are enough to make this kind of format work, and as you've responded elsewhere it doesn't mean you lose 48 riders who ride on the continent. It may mean you might see more guests or sides opting to run on a night which best suits the riders they've signed up Nobody is going to run on a Sunday with anyone who rides in Poland but some clubs opting for Tuesday, Wednesday and Fridays may have some wiggle room if fixtures allow with what the danish and swedish leagues are up to There are insufficient riders is an easy out, its not, it will allow for more opportunity for homegrown and perhaps riders from the commonwealth

I don't think Timo Lahti's parants have any affiliation with Sweden, wheras Both Loram's mum and dad are/were English as was Woffinden's Parents.

Ten years after Rune Holta won the World Cup for Poland? People are moaning that Lahti is competing for Sweden? Mark Loram was born in Malta! Tai Woffinden was raised in Australia. People in glass houses.

and there it goes once again, speedways credibility riding off into the sunset

As far as I’m aware the World Cup final next year is only at Warsaw and the semi finals are elsewhere

I suggest you look at the ticketing website for Saturday, thousands of tickets still available, most blocks have over 100 seats available in them.

Yes... and it's basically between Germany, Latvia & Czechia. Let the France, Italy, Norway, Finland, Argentina, USA & Slovenia compete first to face them. And hold the three semi's over three legs in Germany, Latvia & Czechia on the day that nation has hosted a GP. Might get some interest then. Yes... it was sodding cold in that stadium tonight. I saw a woman in a Slovenia scarf, there were a few Germans, a couple of Swedes and a bunch of chaps from Argentina! No Latvians though, have seen them in Manchester. Rubbish. I've been to... 2014 SWC race-off, 2017 SWC race-off, 2023 SWC semis & race-off.. all hosted in Poland, without Poland competing, none of which were well attended. Poles don't turn up unless Poland are competing. That World Cup will be awful. The temporary track at the Narodowy starts getting rutted up after 3-4 heats on a single night. How on earth is it going to cope with 4 events? Probably exactly the same people as were there tonight, except the German's will go home. The noise that is generated in that arena is still superb without the hoards watching.

What's all this 'not fitting in at Poole'? He was only coming for the Blue Riband!! Same as Vinnie.😉

Sports that think they're right and the fans are wrong tend not to do too well 🤔