Fromafar 10,375 Posted March 19, 2022 30 minutes ago, uk_martin said: The team gets a guest because the rider is NOT withholding his services. And if a rider DOES withhold his services, what does the team get then? A guest. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ch958 2,395 Posted March 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Fromafar said: A guest. you've guessed 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Najjer 2,890 Posted March 19, 2022 5 hours ago, uk_martin said: The team gets a guest because the rider is NOT withholding his services. And if a rider DOES withhold his services, what does the team get then? A 28 day ban and the ability to use a guest. I think everybody would sooner have their own riders in their team other than guests so they would want to be avoiding a ban. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diamonds85 700 Posted March 19, 2022 (edited) Must be Adam Ellis after Plymouth's news about losing a Premiership rider to another Championship team Edited March 19, 2022 by Diamonds85 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_martin 1,606 Posted March 19, 2022 50 minutes ago, Najjer said: I think everybody would sooner have their own riders in their team other than guests so they would want to be avoiding a ban. That's what I'm not sure about. The fans would certainly like 7 on their own riders every meeting. But is that Rogers's way of getting into the play-off's? Vissing hasn't got many competitive miles on the clock these past 3 years, and he's not getting any younger. Given that a guest would be up to a 8.92 average, that would be so advantageous to have if Vissing only rides to the ability of a 6 or 7 point rider when he does make an appearance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevehone 3,430 Posted March 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, uk_martin said: That's what I'm not sure about. The fans would certainly like 7 on their own riders every meeting. But is that Rogers's way of getting into the play-off's? Vissing hasn't got many competitive miles on the clock these past 3 years, and he's not getting any younger. Given that a guest would be up to a 8.92 average, that would be so advantageous to have if Vissing only rides to the ability of a 6 or 7 point rider when he does make an appearance. could work out similar to Peterborough last season with Ostergaard 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,375 Posted March 19, 2022 4 hours ago, stevehone said: could work out similar to Peterborough last season with Ostergaard At least it was valid ,as he had an injury. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_martin 1,606 Posted March 19, 2022 If you ask me, it should be a condition of the BSPZzzz ratifying a signing that the rider in question should be available for all if not the vast majority of the fixtures, if the fixtures are published before the signing is made. Anything else just invites more ridicule. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,292 Posted March 20, 2022 7 hours ago, uk_martin said: If you ask me, it should be a condition of the BSPZzzz ratifying a signing that the rider in question should be available for all if not the vast majority of the fixtures, if the fixtures are published before the signing is made. Anything else just invites more ridicule. Just basic common sense isn't it? I wonder if there is actually anyone within the sport who scratch their heads wondering why the sport has no major sponsor involvement.. Rendering your own competitions virtually worthless from the outset, by your own rules and regulation of them, is not the greatest starting point for success you would have to think, yet that seems to be the 'game plan' each season... It is certainly a very uniquely strange way to run a business... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Catalan 717 Posted March 20, 2022 11 hours ago, uk_martin said: If you ask me, it should be a condition of the BSPZzzz ratifying a signing that the rider in question should be available for all if not the vast majority of the fixtures, if the fixtures are published before the signing is made. Anything else just invites more ridicule. It is 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted March 20, 2022 12 hours ago, uk_martin said: If you ask me, it should be a condition of the BSPZzzz ratifying a signing that the rider in question should be available for all if not the vast majority of the fixtures, if the fixtures are published before the signing is made. Anything else just invites more ridicule. They are only club 'announcements' until the bspl approves them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsunami 10,219 Posted March 20, 2022 12 hours ago, uk_martin said: If you ask me, it should be a condition of the BSPZzzz ratifying a signing that the rider in question should be available for all if not the vast majority of the fixtures, if the fixtures are published before the signing is made. Anything else just invites more ridicule. And what would happen if someone became available for say just the first 2 months of the season, because of other commitments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Third Man 2,217 Posted March 20, 2022 21 minutes ago, Tsunami said: And what would happen if someone became available for say just the first 2 months of the season, because of other commitments. i don't see a problem with doing that, as long as Birmingham understand that there will be no facility available when the short term contract expires 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,292 Posted March 20, 2022 2 hours ago, The Third Man said: i don't see a problem with doing that, as long as Birmingham understand that there will be no facility available when the short term contract expires Good point... As they slavishly follow such a subjective measure as averages, there wouldnt be anything wrong for me in using any number of riders for two months at a time (or even less), just as long as their average meets requirements.. Even for "just one night only" if required, as it would at least mean that a team use their own riders and not another teams' in the same league. As that destroys any kudos in winning the competitions... And if you dont have that "it means something" feel to a sporting contest, unfortunately the fanbase can end up apathetic towards it, which cannot be good for attendance levels.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Dog 413 Posted March 20, 2022 I think everyone is going off on a tangent regarding Vissing as I don't think any of the Brummies hierarchy have said that he will miss any meetings. All surmising atm. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites