Bagpuss 10,780 Posted October 1, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, mikebv said: Make it grippy.... Doyle and Emil ride anything well so won't be bothered and King will also like it... And the racing hopefully will be better for it... The Aces were poor last Monday but both sets of riders were well strung out in virtually every race regardless of finishing order... Good luck to Ipswich.... Ipswich can and will prepare it as they like but not too grippy please, as a neutral I don't want to see riders struggling to get round. Will be interesting to see if Lambert can lower the colours of the Witches top two on a consistent basis tomorrow, I fear Ippo will run away with the first leg and then possibly the tie if not. Edited October 1, 2023 by Bagpuss 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,096 Posted October 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Ipswich can and will prepare it as they like but not too grippy please, as a neutral I don't want to see riders struggling to get round. Will be interesting to see if Lambert can lower the colours of the Witches top two on a consistent basis tomorrow, I fear Ippo will run away with the first leg and then possibly the tie if not. I think they need a good lead and although Lambert probably not that keen on Foxhall I expect he will go well and could beat Doyle or Emil, maybe both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted October 1, 2023 Can see a Witches win by 10-12 leaving the aggregate finely balanced Bound to be a few surprises through the tie where one of the big boys runs a last or the lower end get a win (either side) It's a final and the adrenaline will be pumping I hope the Witches can edge it - after all can the sport afford to inscribe Sheffield Multi Change and League Select Guests Tigers on the trophy? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,031 Posted October 1, 2023 22 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Can see a Witches win by 10-12 leaving the aggregate finely balanced Bound to be a few surprises through the tie where one of the big boys runs a last or the lower end get a win (either side) It's a final and the adrenaline will be pumping I hope the Witches can edge it - after all can the sport afford to inscribe Sheffield Multi Change and League Select Guests Tigers on the trophy? Better hope they have a big enough trophy to fit all that on it! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Third Man 2,217 Posted October 1, 2023 38 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Can see a Witches win by 10-12 leaving the aggregate finely balanced Bound to be a few surprises through the tie where one of the big boys runs a last or the lower end get a win (either side) It's a final and the adrenaline will be pumping I hope the Witches can edge it - after all can the sport afford to inscribe Sheffield Multi Change and League Select Guests Tigers on the trophy? or even an Ipswich trophy for winning the semi final using guests 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2ndbendbeerhut 1,781 Posted October 1, 2023 Track HAS to be grippy like previous 2 matches ... a proper Foxhsll track This wiill suit the Witches whereby Holder , Lambert, Pickering and Mountain won't like it. As for the racing I don't care if its a thriller as long as the Witches come out on top... Witches hitting at least 55 would be lovely with a gate and go fest. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,096 Posted October 1, 2023 18 minutes ago, 2ndbendbeerhut said: Track HAS to be grippy like previous 2 matches ... a proper Foxhsll track This wiill suit the Witches whereby Holder , Lambert, Pickering and Mountain won't like it. As for the racing I don't care if its a thriller as long as the Witches come out on top... Witches hitting at least 55 would be lovely with a gate and go fest. A grippy track may suit Lambert, may not suit Howarth. I think a Witches win of 12 would be acceptable to Ipswich. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old bob at herne bay 828 Posted October 1, 2023 These p off meetings show how modern day speedway has evolved. We have 2 types of rider. The large track gate and go head down bum up throttle jockey , who will show a clean pair of heels to almost anyone on a large pacy track such as Owlerton or NSS . The small track technical rider who can master the art of turning on tight circuits , in both slick and grippy conditions. Their gating can be inconsistent but usually pass the throttle jockeys on their own tracks when mistakes are made. Foxhall, Monmore are examples. As in all sports there are a very small handful of riders who can ride any track well. so we see Ippo narrowly beating the NSS aces .. neither side happy on each others tracks apart from star riders Doyle and sayfootdinov. The same scenario Ippo v Sheffield is in store. my guess Doyle and sayfootdinov will be the difference. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,096 Posted October 1, 2023 23 minutes ago, The Third Man said: or even an Ipswich trophy for winning the semi final using guests You cannot blame any team having to use guests,its speedway and they are the rules or changing your team for better overall strength, Ellis had to go, Kerr unfortunate casualty, imagine if you had Kerr at reserve tomorrow night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,096 Posted October 1, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said: These p off meetings show how modern day speedway has evolved. We have 2 types of rider. The large track gate and go head down bum up throttle jockey , who will show a clean pair of heels to almost anyone on a large pacy track such as Owlerton or NSS . The small track technical rider who can master the art of turning on tight circuits , in both slick and grippy conditions. Their gating can be inconsistent but usually pass the throttle jockeys on their own tracks when mistakes are made. Foxhall, Monmore are examples. As in all sports there are a very small handful of riders who can ride any track well. so we see Ippo narrowly beating the NSS aces .. neither side happy on each others tracks apart from star riders Doyle and sayfootdinov. The same scenario Ippo v Sheffield is in store. my guess Doyle and sayfootdinov will be the difference. They usually are, the biggest shock was Emil coming 3rd in a race at Belle Vue, getting stuck behind Riss who should of been sacked weeks ago,but that disappointment was put to bed in heat 15. Edited October 1, 2023 by foreverblue Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted October 1, 2023 (edited) 46 minutes ago, The Third Man said: or even an Ipswich trophy for winning the semi final using guests I've said I would've like to have run with RR even if it meant we didn't win One guest with an average under 7 for an injured 9+ rider taken from a team not in the playoffs is on the sliding scale integrity issues at the very low end Two guests, one a 10 point ringer in a fake 8 point wrapper that is 4 years old (considered irrelevant in EVERY regulation that INCLUDES it but suitable ONLY due to the fact it is NOT mentioned in another) and the other having already been involved in the play offs for another team I will let everybody make up their own mind as to where in the scale that sits.... Edited October 1, 2023 by dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPEEDY69 1,260 Posted October 1, 2023 3 hours ago, SPEEDY69 said: Looks like there may be a bit of light rain tomorrow night but I'll predict Ips 43 She 47. Not sure why others predict a 10 point plus Ipswich win - but then I don't have a great record . Lambert and Harris should get 23 between them and Sheffield have the better reserves, should be good for 12 between them, which leaves holder, howarth & pickering to get 12 between them for a four point win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,277 Posted October 1, 2023 1 hour ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Can see a Witches win by 10-12 leaving the aggregate finely balanced Bound to be a few surprises through the tie where one of the big boys runs a last or the lower end get a win (either side) It's a final and the adrenaline will be pumping I hope the Witches can edge it - after all can the sport afford to inscribe Sheffield Multi Change and League Select Guests Tigers on the trophy? And loads on here say the sport cannot afford a sqaud system... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Falcon1983 557 Posted October 1, 2023 2 hours ago, mikebv said: Make it grippy.... Doyle and Emil ride anything well so won't be bothered and King will also like it... And the racing hopefully will be better for it... The Aces were poor last Monday but both sets of riders were well strung out in virtually every race regardless of finishing order... Good luck to Ipswich.... 100% make it grippy as you say King likes it Rew gets stuck into it, Riss is ok if he gates, Danyon maybe needs a word in his ear just to settle for 3rd places in some heats instead of pushing too hard and getting caught out 100% Harris will be a danger but 100% expect him to score no more than 7 from 4 rides which would be a good return I think Witches 52-38 on the night Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baldyman 6,243 Posted October 1, 2023 I might give this a look on box,,,I'm not gonna bother with a prediction,,, because it's not an easy one to make,,,a case could be made for Ipswich getting beaten,,, Rew Riss Hume,,, could easily score naff all between them, but they could also score about 15 between them easily. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
