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All this stuff is in the past, it's the future we should be worrying about.

I would argue that Częstochowa have on paper a stronger team than leszno and both Częstochowa reserves are better than slauderbach, the problem is Częstochowa are badly under performing, who is the better rider Doyle or Lidsey ? You would have said Doyle at the start of season but lidsey has out performed Doyle, that’s not the league’s fault, infact lidsey who wasn’t even put in the team at the start of the year has out performed every Częstochowa rider apart from madsen

I'm not Ford's biggest fan and certainly don't agree with some of the suspect antics he's carried out over the years, BUT he's now doing everything he can to save Poole Speedway. So no matter who you are or what you think give the guy some credit. Losing our beloved team would be a huge loss, not only to me personally but to UK speedway. We've lost enough teams in recent years for goodness sake!!

I bet you’re fun at parties. Change the record

It's the Speedway equivalent of Football's "I'd like to see him do that away at Stoke City on a cold Tuesday night in December"...

That’s Shovler for you, unless he has ridden for Poole he is no good.

The good thing is that Ford will work very hard to try and ensure the Pirates survive otherwise any hope that one day he can sell them (might be a long shot anyway these days) will be gone

Do you really think he will even be riding round Monmore in a couple of seasons!!! Poland and world speedway is all about fast starting and fast bikes these days .IMO

That’s cause they perform, they took a gamble with lidsey which paid off, kolodziej is past his best but still performs, slauderbach is not one of the top reserves, smektala could of struggled when he left the reserve berth, a lot of ifs there but they have all worked, Częstochowa have lindgren and Doyle who have both underperformed badly

Unless it’s Poole,it’s always a dull meeting for Shovler.

Knowing how this night has gone for Czestochowa. Leszno will probably get a 5-1 in the re-run

No. Not saying that just saying you cannot discount him. Particularly when comparing him to Ivan you have to take into account that Ronnie had been a top world class rider for some 15-16 years before Ian won his first World Final. For me the best three ever riders have been Fundin, Mauger and Rickardsson. But Ronnie absolutely deserves his place among the legends.

Absolutely no way could you discount Ronnie Moore. If anything he was the most consistent of the “big five” not just meeting to meeting but race to race. Also remember he started a bit before the others so might very well have had 2-3 titles before Fundin, Craven and Briggs really got started at top world level. And he didn’t have things easy before either with the likes of Jack Young around. These discussions are always so enjoyable.

13+1 in his first ever Swedish league match ....

Some positive news about Peter. Initially unconscious but regained consciousness He has full movement and can feel his arms and legs.

There have been pandemics before, and there has been planning for them - for many years in fact. But for some reason this time, governments are taking panicky knee-jerk reactions to every development, even though these are in many cases entirely predictable. And the UK government has been amongst the worst for its inconsistency.

We've not had Covid before. Every government is making it up as they go along.

Not so sure about Laguta, bit of a start tart... Having said that there's no "trick" tracks this year so I think going on current Polish form could be a wise move

No. It has been a proper borefest from heat one. Not one race where I thought, that was good! Rubbish meeting.

I made a call mid meeting when Doyle was riding like a wolly, to ensure my bet has come in tonight on Doyle vs Kolodziej handicap

I attended all the World U21 last year & for me Lidsey & kubera the 2 most improved riders, & improving this year

To be honest tonight has not been a great spectacle. The scoreline of 43-35 is totally down to Freddie Lindgren. He's got 1 which is unacceptable for a rider of his stature. If he had only another 4 the match is level. Trouble is Czestachowa have someone like him every week at the moment.

Spot on.. A team that has three out of the top seven best riders in the world from last year shouldnt be getting smashed this way.. The system in Poland is fine.. Teams not performing some days is sport...

Lidsey's doing well again tonight..

The home supporters must be a tad peed off I would think 'Is it worth risking Covid for this crap', they must be thinking

How bad is Lindgren tonight!!

so far both the tapes and the teams have been uneven

Tapes not working properly, going up uneven, should rerun that race

Can see Super Slow Freddie wanting to kiss CVS backside for a ride for Wolves next season

Pathetic from Lindgren. It's 100% Team Chemistry that's the problem with this side.

Hopefully the announcer playing 'Jump' before that start was deliberate. ..

Why was that not called back,Blue jumped far more than Pawlicki did.

All in hindsight now Steve but Hans against Erik now in combat would be awesome .Two great champions going against each other both at the peak of there powers but it was spoiled by Erik's dreadful injury both LEGEND riders. After a number of years got to realise just how good Nielsen was doubted it myself hold my hands up but his brilliance over a period persuaded me.

I do think from 1968 / 1974, / Ivan would of dominated a series I, still think Briggs and others would of won certain other rounds though. 1984 onwards Nielsen with Gundo sniffing about Gundersen was better had his number certainly on a one off meting Hans would of loved a GP series still think Erik would of liked a series format ( ie knowing he could beat the Great Hans.

Speedway as a 'professional' sport has produced so many farces over years, it would make a great soap opera. Having no team to support helps me deal with this. I've had plenty of disappointments with the sport, i am now battle hardened to it. I still enjoy the racing and the social side of it, Scunthorpe on Sunday was a perfect example of this. Speedway isn't worth taking too seriously.

It might be the ultimate fence sit, but beyond Muller and Szczakiel I can't see any one off World Champion who wouldn't have been capable of winning in a GP system (Havelock perhaps, but he was red hot in 92) and no GP World Champs that couldn't have taken a one off World Championship. The GP's certainly make sure the cream rises to the top, but the one-offs had a good record on that front too. The different systems require a different approach, so whereas a riders would build towards September to be at their mechanical, mental and physical peak, they have to be consistently on it right from the start now. To pick two examples, riders like Mike Lee and Erik Gundersen could be in (relatively) patchy form at the start of the year, but be absolutely on it by the business end of the season in the one-off era. I don't doubt that both would have been much more "dialled in" (to borrow a fashionable term) from the get go under a GP system.

He is, as he is wrong and proven so without a single element of doubt. Or perhaps he knows more than the CDC (Centre for Disease Control and Prevention), ONS (Office of National Statistics), WHO (World Health Organsiation) and every single other medical organisation in the world who state they are transmitted in the same way.

It's a credit to those who built it. However, go to a big meeting like the CL Pairs, stand on the grass banking, in the dark like a sardine, with barely any extra toilet or catering facilities and it's horrific. It's quite frightening on that grass when it gets damp and little or no public lighting. It's great for their normal crowds up to high hundreds, even then lack of toilets and catering can be an issue. Not suitable for big Events without massive increase in portaloos and catering.

good to see speedway how it should be . in a field , grass banking and all the things you need for a good nights entertainment . all tracks should be like this . forget the NSS . its a concrete jungle . you dont need bling stadiums and all that other stuff . just good honest racing as this one was . i wish this track was closer , (200 miles closer at least ! ) AR looked class , as did all the cornets team on this vid . maybe have to become a southern softie ! missing our team and friends gained through the speedway connection . thanks for the vid and it was good to see a quite recent meeting instead of the usual vintage dross served up by some northern clubs . good quality picture and non of the betamax style coverage lol. . thanks .. J

I was trying to be concise Dave... for a change... but you know the craic... the thing had been on the slide from MP coming in... I'll leave it there... if ya ken what a mean... Regards THJ

See Adam Ellis has made a good start, hope he can carry his form into the GP Challenge

As long as they race I don't mind, another rubbish stirring post with love from Irrevelance from Birmingham....

Read my words again. I said driving clubs out of business wasn’t going to be good for the sport , I didn’t say Ford was making all rules for the future of the sport rather than his own club. If you are going to quote someone quote them verbatim instead of your own interpretation of it . You do this all the time as a distraction when we get down to questions you dont want to answer,.

It's always been a totalitarian state people always notice it more in times of stress

I agree with that. Right decision by the ref

Without seeing it again I thought The young kid just kept his line?????

Bingo, you got it. That was the point. Delay things so the hospitals wouldn’t be overwhelmed. Flatten the curve was the mantra

you are a wiser owl than the majority then.

It's already been admitted the real death figure is lower. The excess deaths in the UK are now lower than they were for flu in 2017/18.

Yes I started this thread 5 years ago!