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  1. It's just another failing of a horrible competition. To me, pairs meetings are rubbish for fans. Even if everything runs properly, as a fan of 1 Nation I am spending more time NOT watching MY team than watching them. That's rubbish. The SWC had my team involved in every race. Can we just admit that this was a flawed attempt to stop the perceived domination of one Nation, which has led to the domination of another Nation, and go back to the far better competition that we had before?
    12 points
  2. I think it is right time to make brave decision and bring back proper World Cup. 4 teams, 4 riders each team with 1 reserve (maximum 3 rides to avoid using top rider as reserve). Easy and simple. Run it every 4 years, to see which team is the best in current riders generation. Leave pairs (call them SON if you want) but bring teams back!
    5 points
  3. So Australia rode their 4 heats against the teams who finished in the top 4, Russia, Poland, Denmark and Sweden.. If they'd got to ride against GB and the Czechs they would of been making the top 3 easily, just shows how ridiculous calling a meeting part-way through is. Mark Lemon was quite right to be a bit pissed off!
    4 points
  4. Steve Worrall got that place in the 2017 SWC on merit, as demonstrated by his performance in the final - he was just about the only British rider who came out of that final with his head held high. Remember he was British No 2 that year as well. It's a shame he hasn't been quite the same rider since his broken leg at the start of 2018, because on his 2017 form, he would have been Lambert's natural partner after Woffy was hurt. As for this year, with Woffy out, our best two riders are Lambert and Bewley. There's then a situation that, as Bewley is under 21, it makes sense to line him up in that slot, since the U21 has to take a compulsory ride but the senior riders do not. So whoever was lined up at No 2 for GB was unlikely to get a ride. At which point, what's the sensible thing to do? Take along a rider at the end of their career? Or take along Kemp and Palin over to Poland to let them experience the atmosphere. My frustration last night was with the FIM and BSI for turning the meeting into a farce. Not the GB set up, who tracked our best two non-injured riders last night and therefore did what they are supposed to do. Who is on better current form than Lambert and Bewley? Name that rider.
    3 points
  5. Drew Kemp is eighteen, he won’t be ‘on the scrap heap’ at twenty one unless he doesn’t progress at all. You’ll have to explain to me why Steve Worrall would warrant a place or why you think he can make the grade internationally as I just don’t see it. Its also worth mentioning Anders Rowe who has based himself in Poland this year and hit himself some wonderful experience riding over there, something nowhere near enough Brits have done over the years although they can’t be blamed for making good money doubling up in the UK.
    3 points
  6. Me too, I’m fed up with this one for the future line or to gain experience, you’re in a competition to win
    3 points
  7. Absolutely agree about the part I've put in bold. To me, it doesn't matter if they're 60 years old, if they're in your top two, then they should ride.
    3 points
  8. Scrap doubling up. Improve the standard of our riders by putting them out of their comfort zone and improve the quality of the product here by not having riders with more clubs than Tiger Woods. I like it.
    2 points
  9. It’s interesting that he hasn’t got a gig out in Poland when the likes of Craig Cook, Charles Wright and then even riders of a similar calibre over here like Sam Masters are riding in the Polish 3rd tier this year, Brady Kurtz, Nick Morris in the past and other Australians too of similar calibre. I’m sure if they were that desperate for a ride out in Poland they could get it but probably just happy earning a living double upping in Britain
    2 points
  10. I think I heard Lemon also say (on the talk speedway podcast) that Chris had also declined to ride. What the hell Lemon was doing using Lidsey against the Poles beats me, he's made some very strange decisions in the past also... I wonder if his performance is ever scrutinised by MA To be fair if any of the other countries lost a rider of the calibre of Woffinden they would be in severe trouble, GB have been very unlucky for the last couple of years in losing him for the SoN. Sweden without Lindgren, Denmark without Madsen, Aussie without Doyle, Russia without one of their top 2 etc IMO you should ALWAYS pick your strongest team for a world cup event, there are many riders that should have been picked ahead of Kemp, no disrespect to him. If you constantly pick youngsters "to give them experience" then you ignore the riders that you were giving that experience to a few years back, you then get into a catch 22 situation of giving riders the experience and then jettisoning them after they've had the experience. Steve Worrall was "given the experience" a few years back and now he's totally forgotten about. At least he didn't mention Greg Hancock tonight... which must be a first Absolutely spot on False dawn, can't disagree with a word you say. This was a world championship event for god's sake and to treat it like an end of season fixture filler that just needed to be run to get it over and done with was a complete disgrace and devalued an already massively devalued competition even further, if that's the way they're going to treat it they should just scrap the competition. The track was a disgrace and the meeting should have been called off before the start. The bumps in the track have been there for weeks as seen in Lublin's final Ekstraliga fixtures and nothing was done to smooth them out. To hold this even in October was complete madness, why on earth it wasn't planned for the summer months like it always has been is a mystery
    2 points
  11. It seems a little harsh to say that he was "woeful" this year. He didn't really get a proper run this year in Poland...What did he do? 10 races across the season or something like that? He was in a team that was set up with a good number 8 and often got replaced in every race...In a different team he might have had a better season. I feel kinda sad to see him retire. As you said, he was a bright hope at one point and hasn't delivered on the expectations, but more that that, it's esentially another Country lost to the sport. Croatia basically have no-one racing now.
    2 points
  12. WHY are you still asking about this? Elite sports people and their support team do NOT have to self isolate in the UK.
    2 points
  13. But that's not what happened. The SON finals are designed to run over 42 heats plus a semi final and a final. So 14 heats does not in any way represent 50% of "the meeting". Actually it's less than a third. So we are left with an empty sense of being short changed. And that's before we even consider the quality of racing (for the most part) on such a wet circuit. Oh, and when did rain make a circuit bumpy? I can accept that the surface might become uneven following some racing. But those bumps were there from the start of the "practice session".
    2 points
  14. With their other riders they’ve got next in line, I wouldn’t bet against them winning an event with 5 rider teams when you add in Grigori Laguta, Tarasenko and Kulakov too!
    2 points
  15. Mickey Mouse Speedway.. Well done FIM Well done BSI Clowns.
    2 points
  16. When In the 80s, the Danes dominated WTC somehow it did not bother anyone. The Danes had a golden generation of champions, and they used them for quite a few years. Nobody thought of calling off the competition in which one nation dominates, in the same way nobody is calling off Polish club competition dominated in the last four years by one club. So when Poles came to the fore after years of drought, the FIM abandoned the exciting competition that often kept fans in suspense until the last race, and sometimes even the last bend. They did it under the ridiculous pretext of allegedly caring for the development of the speedway. Mind you, it has to be clear that Poles did not always win. They also had to swallow the bitterness of defeat, for example in Bydgoszcz, where Niels Kristian Iversen stole the gold from them in the last few yards. All the time, however, there were great emotions and great promotion of speedway. What do we have now? A two-day competition, where riders are to run 42 races, but in the end everything is decided by the grand final anyway. To this day, no one knows whether this competition called the Speedway of Nations is a continuator of the WTC or the World Best Pairs. FIM itself, cannot answer this question, saying that it is the championship of … wait for it… Speedway of Nations. What a ridiculous name. Finally, a simple question for the gentlemen from the FIM. Isn’t he Speedway of Nations getting boring? After all the Russians win it year after year. it doesn't matter whether the final takes place in Wrocław, Togliatti or on a soggy track in Lublin, interrupted after 14 races? Russia are the champion and that's it! I’d say, yes it is getting boring. (as seen from sportowefakty.pl point of view)
    1 point
  17. Remember him riding with his ankle in plaster at White city Glasgow in a World Championship Qualifier in the Sixties.
    1 point
  18. 1 point
  19. That's a pretty poor excuse for them not to hold it in Manchester.
    1 point
  20. IT was moved to Poland because nearly all the riders were there .. no doubt the NSS were happy to have their staging postponed for a season when hopefully there will be no crowd restrictions.
    1 point
  21. My SON experience started last winter shortly after the tickets in Manchester went on sale. Being my first live Speedway race and also my first trip to Europe I bought the best grandstand tickets for myself and my SO (significant other) (after seventy what do you call each other in the UK?) Then the air fare, hotel room in Manchester, plans to rent a car after the races and see (practice) if we could drive on the left without incidence. We were going to head North and go along the coast into Scotland then explore our way back down to London to fly back home. Needless to say we were both very excited! Then along came the Covid and we just had to have a wait and see. Well we had our SON yesterday at 1:00 PM and as everyone has said it wasn't ideal......BUT that race with Emil getting pushed wide one second and passing Doylie up against the wall next second will always be my only memory of the race. I hate to agree with KeirStarmerFan BUT I would like to know who else could've pulled that off! So my Speedway experience and my trip to your country didn't turn out the way that I had hoped but that's the way life is, isn't it? I've been a Speedway fan for about 8 years now and that heat was one of the most exciting i can remember and I'm happy with that!
    1 point
  22. What Anders Rowe has done this year is what so many young bits should have done over the years. Done it tough, up sticks and gone sink or swim in the exact way the aussies and yanks do coming to Europe. Yet in typical British speedway style he has gotten little to no recognition for what he has done. Beating proper riders out there too, and gets overlooked for the British final and SON!!! All this when only himself, Tai,Dan,Rob and and Adam Ellis were the only brits to see regular competitive racing in 2020.
    1 point
  23. Pretty sure they don't have to isolate anyway,as how would Bewley,Kemp and Palin be riding Wednesday in the British U21 Final up at Berwick. Lets be honest they moved it to Poland expecting to get a crowd in and it backfired on them.If they knew they couldn't have any fans in paying the admission price they would have kept it in Manchester.You could have got two decent nights of racing on a track that can take a fair bit of the wet stuff unlike the drivel served up to us yesterday.
    1 point
  24. Once the decision had been made to rush the meeting through to Ht14 then call it I think most of the rules went out the window.
    1 point
  25. The European Champion
    1 point
  26. Steve Worrall (as are many others) is better than Kemp, whether he was asked I don't know, but Kemp could easily be in the same position as Steve Worrall in a few years. Test Matches are for sorting the wheat from the chaff not world championship events
    1 point
  27. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Speedway-race-jacket-Redcar-Bears/203143607352 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Speedway-race-jacket-Middlesborough-Tigers-Original/203143613627
    1 point
  28. 1 point
  29. Do u really think that Dan bewley and his crew coming to ride in a mickey mouse meeting at berwick on a wed night counts as Elite sports.!
    1 point
  30. Was there a supplementary rule made to allow Poland & Russia to finish the meeting without their U21 rider having to take the compulsory ride as per the rules?
    1 point
  31. Vaclav Verner did 4 row for Exeter in a home meeting against Sheffield in 1994,he rode in heats 11,12,13 and 14 (3,fx,3,3) and won heat 16 for good measure,aged 45!
    1 point
  32. Hopefully, and with a better choice of when to run it we might well not get the complete farce tonight’s match was. That meeting was a dreadful advert for the sport and should never have started.
    1 point
  33. 1 point
  34. Has there ever been a worse commentary by Pearson than tonight’s?
    1 point
  35. Hopefully this will convince BSI not to have it in October again next year as planned. May too early though, needs to be July/August.
    1 point
  36. We are in indifferent times of course , but trying to stage any Speedway meeting in North Europe in the middle of October would be construed as a gamble with the weather
    1 point
  37. Scott Nicholls always seems to be the voice of reason. Absolutely correct that this meeting should never have started and should have been rolled over until tomorrow morning with a much better forecast. Also correct IMO about the use of the U21 riders. There is a seperate competition altogether for U21 riders and this should be all about the best riders from each country.
    1 point
  38. You mean by not choosing the riders that didnt want to ride for Poland earlier?
    1 point
  39. Just whizzed through the meeting, what an awful spectacle apart from one lap by Emil. Glad everyone got through in one piece. Not a good advert.
    1 point
  40. Ceislaks ego cost Poland. Thought he was bigger than what was right for his nation.
    1 point
  41. No mean achievement..
    1 point
  42. its the constant moaning not just tonight. Every meeting is fixed in Poland favour, there is no passing, commentary is terrible or its poor to watch. Broken record needs taking off the turntable
    1 point
  43. So how is Dan Bewley down to ride at Berwick on Wednesday, then Belle Vue on Thursday.
    1 point
  44. Pearson really is a clown at times
    1 point
  45. Surpised with that choice but he does make loads of weird calls. Wait until he uses Lidsey
    1 point
  46. When asking a Pole a question in English why do interviewers (Kiri) use long words that even English people do not use in conversation. No wonder Zmartzlik could not give a decent answer to some questions. Stupid. Charlie Webster doing a good job. Not done a GP all season so she comes in a bit blind.
    1 point
  47. Bbc can't get it right for this country let alone anywhere abroad.
    1 point
  48. It's off to Torun.
    1 point
  49. Looks like those dancing ants the had at Cardiff one year
    1 point
  50. I quite like it, piston, rod, chain wheel, barrel and levers
    1 point
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