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How can anyone justify the cut off date being extended with the summer we have had, I can't remember a summer with so few rain offs.

The podcast is well worth a listen Dan comes across very well and has high praise for the new Northside track and what Steve Lawson has done to help him get to where he is now, IMO Dan is a future world champion

International referee Krister Gardell on a livestream saying he would exclude both blue and white here, Woryna for going down and then Hansen for taking Smektala out

I knew when I started this thread it would be quiet... I've got to be honest, I'm beginning to wonder why I bother with this forum with all the mud slinging going back and forth and it's the same for both sides of that argument! I also get the sense regardless of the weather, the Gladiators promotion are in a no win situation here. The forecast suggests rain is likely for the next three-four days, as i type this it's pretty torrential outside my front door and I'm in the middle of the city. If it's called off, people will moan and complain. If we race, and have 3/4 guests... people will complain

The Brummies could sign the top 3 in the world but it's not going to make any difference to the average Joe in the street. There needs to be a monstrous change in how speedway is put out into the public eye to make it sustainable otherwise deep pockets and passion just aren't going to be enough. And this goes to every club, not just Birmingham.

Can’t believe Trackrat would reply on a Poole haters topic!!

Stop playing around with your mirror

I think this is the easiest thread to answer ive ever seen on the forum lol 1. All the cheating they have done over the years....... far more then any other team 2. The fans.....every club on this forum has its fair share of strange forum posters........just that Poole have the worst by a long way.....some of them are decent ...Skidder, chrisforgillian, poole keith.................unfortunately let down by the troll Shovlar and his merry band of sycophants...........its great to see that even fans of the other championship teams now get to see what us top flight sides had to put up time and time again 3. Jealousy.....................not one speedway fan is jealous of Poole yet if you dare to criticise the club their fans cant debate and just scream jealousy.........so far away from the truth 4. Big club mentality....are Poole a big club.....in a way....are they the biggest....no

Not that Glasgow would have done anything like this in previous years gone by

Hey, we all get our kicks in different ways. If your lot came to ours, with no, Worrall, King, Lawson and minus a Cook. On the only night, many potential guests were unavailable, I’m not sure I’d be too excited about it. Or too proud of my promotion if they’d forced it to be that way. But, we’re all different… Hope you enjoy your night.

Justice.

Hansen maybe excluded for knocking off Smektala.... but as Woryna already off he should also go

Think they have their hands tied quite tightly with the planning constraints. I am quite critical of Plymouth but I do think they have been shafted a bit over this.

Are you looking for a day out in the Ocean City? unfortunately as others have said the planning restrictions limit meetings greatly. However running the Centurions and helping secure the development of the future Ablitt’s, Kemp’s etc is a worthwhile and entertaining use of available Tuesdays. Certainly helps out the other clubs without the foresight to do so….. Could be worth a trip down for you? Beyond that, I think there used to be the odd car boot sale etc.. Can let you know if any happen, if that’s your kind of thing?

Speedway's failure has been that it has had people running it that call themselves promoters but openly admit to losing thousands of pounds a meeting to keep it going. If these men running it are prepared to run a business this way, what hope have we of survival? Again they'll be little panic in the winter. No doubt we'll have the Play-Offs, a decent crowd, and go into the winter with promoters using short-term memory (of the past two weeks) to say it's been a good season.

Think even the Play-Offs have taken a dive in recent years. The semi-finals no longer are rammed full, same with finals. The issue is, they're exactly the same as a regular meeting. There's no fanfare at all & except an extra £5 on the gate. Punters are turning away from the Play-Offs too in favour of watching on TV

OMG (apologies to anyone who has just returned from Sunday morning worship), but I've just turned off my laptop and turned it back on again.......and Yes its still there... the Pirate hater GAVAN has called me a 'decent poster' !! OMG (apologies again) and I thought I had him on 'ignore'!

Just like poole and brasso when the Tigger's money was thrown about

Not saying it would happen but you can see the logic, Wednesday night race day would free up the weekends more..

For LEAGUE racing what happens inside the fence is a bonus but not the most important, the most important is what happens outside the safety fence, the fan experience, how that fans feels, if that fan supports their team and there is a bond with that team and they are with other like minded fans (the more the better)creating an atmosphere and their team hopefully wins with maybe some controversy thrown in even if the racing was crap the fan experience will be a good one and make that fan want to go back, this is basically what happens in any team sport even football, add in value for money and you’re on a winner, we all want great racing but great racing infront of a few fans with no atmosphere will be a negative fan experience, it’s the opposite for a TV audience as tv can’t capture atmosphere so relies on good racing , just think back when you went to away matches back in the day on a coach or with your teams fans and you watched a dull meeting with no passing and your team got battered but the 50 or so of you supported your team and had a blast creating an atmosphere, it was a good fan experience, it didn’t matter what happened inside the fence

That’s all it is though. Don’t think any Champions or other teams in the play-offs in recent years can say their attendances increased as a result - each following year they start from scratch …

Must be a great feeling to silence a big noisy crowd in that manner, what a buzz.

Nice for Gorzów to win this fair result in the end.

But surely Woryna was the cause of the stoppage, regardless of what happened after

Let's hope Gorzow go on to win now

Miskowiak should've went down.

So just your cage then, as you have been trolling about Poole for weeks now. But thanks for actually confirming it! The only people trolling are you and trackrat. Poole fans talking about Poole isn't trolling. You just call anyone connected with Poole a bully, you really need a dictionary. Poor Birmingham

Not our problem. Plymouth will have to use riders that are available.

Both legs of the final last year were big old crowds, I went to Peterborough and the place was rammed. Two great meetings too. Not sure it's the Play Offs that are the issue, more the four months of dross which precede it.

How is it even possible to ride on Weds 6th???!!! Lol and you say other people talk crap! Are you and trackrat troll tag teaming lol.

Big crowd in Częstochowa, let’s hope the meeting is good too

Interesting to see that even the crap and discredited BBC Meteo service have now woken up to what all the more trusted ones have been saying for 3 or 4 days Heavy rain sometimes torrential and high risk of thunderstorm in Plymouth and Poole from tonight until Thursday. Will Mr Ford be able to find a suitable date, after all he told management committee it had to be Wednesday 6th or nothing. Can't get the staff on a Friday allegedly. Plymouth will be fine... Any Tuesday will do. Will Poole have to forfeit if they can't stage before cut off stage for QFs?? Shovlar weather forecasting about as accurate as his match reports. Crap and biased.

Nonsense. I just call you a TROLL because that's exactly what you are

Holder and Dudek have been major let downs for Torun so far. Way too inconsistent this Torun team

Yes, pretty shocking and totally unexpected!

OK here goes- I contacted Reg Fearman. Arthur does not use e-mail, but Reg took the trouble to contact Pam Warren ( ex-spouse of Graham Warren) , and also Peter White the Australian journalist and member of the Australian Speedway community and they both confirm Arthur is 99.. So it looks like he WAS indeed born in 1923. I will update his birthdate the next time we update the oldest World Finalist list. It's great speedway people are so helpful, particularly as some are getting up there in age. I was glad to see so many forumlanders wanted to ensure this was corrected

Because your not a decent poster, just a clueless troll.

Yes, lucky escape!

I went to the semi and final at Peterborough last year and there was no increase in admission price for either

That’s for me is the don’t care about supporters bit and every year really grates me

World class riders back in the day but probably never really considered the worlds top ten on a consistent basis Go back to the early 80's.....Jessup, Simmons, Lee, Carter, Morton, Peter Collins...all world class riders who by 1984/85 were either past their best or lost to the sport The 1986 British Final top 3 was Evitts, Phil Collins, Doncaster,........good top level riders but none of them (apart from Doncaster) went on to do much more on the world stage....1986 was for me a changing of the guard From 1987 - 1990 you then had genuine World Class performers breaking through.......Tatum, Wigg Cross, Doncaster, Smith, Thorp....winning the World Team Cup although obviously in tragic circumstances 1991-2001 - a decade where another new wave of English talent come through...arguably better then the 87-90 guys........Havelock, Louis, Loram, Screen, Dugard I would then say from 2001 until 2013 we havent had what i would class as riders capable of making the step up to World Champion Any rider that can be in the world top 16 for a number of years is World Class to me....Nicholls and Harris were ....but i could never see them as making the next step up to a world title contender or even a regular rostrum contender.....Lee Richardson was to me a level below Harris and Nicholls at their best. From 2001-2013 we had riders like Robson, Howe, Kennett, Barker and Stead being on rostrums in British Finals and as good as these riders were and great servants to our sport none of those could be considered world class or likley to have made a break through at international level We were lucky with Tai and now we have 3 riders in the top 8 in the world we should embrace it...enjoy it and back these boys........whats important is the progression of the next level of riders and to what level we can get those guys to Will Brennan and Flint be the next Nicholls or Harris or will they make the step up to be the next Havelock , Loram or Woffinden

Clubs wanting to delay the inevitable is definitely to be frowned upon, BUT Play-Offs take precedence.!!

Disagree with moving cut off dates for one track but points should have been given to Plymouth as they were prepared to give it a go.

By all accounts Swindon Geyhounds will shut in Jan..So no Swindon Speedway for the foreseeable future...Just got to wait for Swindon Speedway and Tomlinson statement about searching for a new venue that has no chance of happening but will be liked by the same fools who thought the Stadium would be built.Gaming int have done it again.and closed another speedway track down

Nice one Malcom! I think the only Soft Spot was the Ref'

Given Birmingham owners comments on BSN at U21 final the insinuation is that Brennan and Pickering are signing for Birmingham next season? I think Glasgow and Edinburgh management will have some serious issues with that!!

Don’t think it matters really, both sets of riders have been at each other's tracks enough times to know what they need to do and both could be prepared differently from the cup meetings but that quite often catches the home riders out. Leicester are a very strong side, some would say the strongest in the league so it will be close but if we can beat them in the cup it will give us confidence for the playoffs.

A 3 match Test Series would be even better... The Speedway Ashes....

We're Poole and we do what we want. Lol

After 2 consecutive fiasco's... Sam Ermolenko comes to town