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So Edinburgh make a massive effort to put on the meeting, so that Belle Vue get a fair crack of whip and their play-off fate is not decided by a rain off, and then you moan about the conditions? Conditions looked superb to me watching on the stream, considering the torrential rain earlier in the day. Track was the same for both sides, if anything a wet track tends to remove home track advantage. Well done Armadale for being easily the best team on the night - shame you can't acknowledge that.

Not too long ago he was blaming College and exams. BV is the best gig in the NDL for any young rider, not the kind of bridge you burn if you're professional and sensible.

Dave Rowe would have known

Alright Shovlar

You should learn a little respect re the other Scottish lot and while you're at it try and learn to spell the Family name of the Glasgow owners

Exactly and relay information given to them not keep up to date with every possible outcome

But you could read it like the semi losers are not in the play offs. that’s the problem with rules. Different people read them differently

No not bike issues. Just beaten up by riders with more desire and dialled in. As for Tom Brennan, as his career progresses he will certainly improve at Poole. I remember a young Chris Harris struggling for several seasons to get a grip of Wimborne Road and always flattering to deceive. Today, when in the right mood and with his bikes working, he can be untouchable.

Klindt was signed before the transfer window, and has made some appearances for Kings Lynn. He is on decent average and is a decent replacement for Fricke. Whether its Fricke, Klindt or Lambert Belle Vue should have enough strength in depth to get their first League title in a number of years. Why are you panicking.

It's complicated! I'm still here because nothing we please me more than to rediscover my enthusiasm I care passionately about speedway. I have lived and breathed it for 50 years. In its rawest form it is still the most exciting,exhilarating sport ever The current set up however has driven me away , it is tepid and soulless at best - fake and corrupt at worst The sport has lost its identity and lacks any coherent direction Perhaps being a little closer than many and having enhanced insight to certain situations over the years has helped sour my view (unfortunately) I would love to be able to just turn up and enjoy the racing

Janowski is a very talented rider and a class act on the bike,but this season has been a bit of nightmare for him for some reason.At least when interviewed a couple of weeks ago he didn’t give the usual bullsh#t about machinery and set-ups he blamed himself.Good Guy IMO.Thought a couple of years ago he could be World Champ but not so sure now.

If you could fit them in and keep them fit poor old Shovlar would poo his pants

I agree,there job is to commentate on the racing imo.

Not the commentators job!

Well done to Lambert and Bewley for finishing the six, fantastic stuff. It's got to the stage where we are disappointed if they don't reach the semis, they have both developed fantastically well this year. As for next year I don't see any surprises in the picks, the two Russians for Doyle and Michelsen if they are allowed back in but I doubt it myself and I think Nilsson for PP will probably be it.

Maybe Sam Ermolenko could do the working out of the permutations for them.. ...?

Happy to see Lambert finish in the top 6 and automatically qualify for next year's Gp's.After being written off by many especially on here he had a great 2nd half of the series to qualify.

Lucky you!

Right that Doyle went !

I have cancelled my evening appointment because my public need me so paper and pen and scorecard at the ready !!!

Kylmakorpi was struggling after a knee injury (0 in his return) and Wolves signed Woffinden on his official Green Sheet. He rode 6 league matches before the play-offs. When they tried to do the same again (a year later?) just for the play-offs, they weren’t allowed.

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with the U23 Team Final tomorrow being postponed i'm guessing Brennan and Kemp are riding?

Just read the regulations - rather than requesting proof just make sure your own hearsay is correct before spouting off and looking foolish

That thought has put me of my lunch !!!

Really I would say that Belle Vue are. Belle Vue having far more formidable at home that any other team this season.

SCB Regulations: 013.6.1 Guest Rider ... f) no rider, whose team is in the play offs may appear as a guest in the play offs, in that league Hope that's good enough for you - you have obviously been relying on hearsay

Oh look. Klindt guesting Monday as he will in final. The same klindt who only only returned once his season finished. But that’s ok yeah????

Some similar moments there to the ones I remember, Sidney. Renember the 1974 double header against Hackney and Belle Vue? My first season and the biggest crowd I ever saw there with Bob Kilby guesting for both sides. Couldn't believe it when it was later announced that Kilby would be at Blunsdon in 1975. I also remember Malc Holloway riding through the flower beds while the track staff scattered in all directions. So funny. The Ashby/Jansson Golden Helmet. I git Tommy's autograph that night. Crump and Lee was another one. For me, the best riding I've ever seen from any rider ever was Michael Lee that night. He was beating Crump by the length of a straight and pulling wheelies at the same time. I remember it clearly. Another great memory for me was Andrew Silver coming in as our number 8 and riding straight between a couple of Wolves riders who were team riding on a 5-1.

There is a significant difference between saying I can't ride beforehand (be it work, wedding, or holiday commitment) and accepting a booking and not turning up.

Bottom line Basso wasn’t the let down away from home IMO

Some people just take the time to read things properly......

If Poland relaxes its restrictions on riders and more of the top riders want to return to the UK who exactly is going to pay for them, the clubs owners or those who pay to attend the meetings who now have the increase in energy costs mortgage payments to think about, even sponsors will need to hold onto there cash with rising business costs .

Only three of this years team should stay, Doyle, Riss and Hume. Then freshen up with four newbies. Try and get over a couple of the talented young foreigners that haven’t got the big gigs in Poland yet. There’s a fair few out there.

When Nicki absolutely dominated in 2007, 3rd placed Jason Crump finished 72 points behind Nicki.

Does Woffy deserve a Wild Card.IMO no.

For me it's an integral part of their job.

Vaculik @ 7/4 before the final race gets some of the losses back. I'll take the small loss and move on to Monday. Sorry if you backed any of those earlier bets, Don't think anyone would've predicted every senior rider in the Torun team to hit rock bottom to a point where they weren't even competitive.

This artificial points system is really a mess. I don't like it at all. No one has a clue now durign the meeting re. the overall world championship points standings.

The link for the GP race card tonight in Torun….... last round. https://www.speedwayservice.at/images/racecards/2022/SGP2022-10.pdf

Do the bookies know anything about speedway.

From the club that a year before disgracefully sacked a rider to bring in Woffinden on a fake average just to win the league?!

Well I hope R&R has had a good night's sleep as he's going to need to be at his best tonight to keep us all informed who needs to do what and when in order to finish with what medal or in the top 6. Last night we had the laughable situation where you could hear the commentators counting on their fingers and toes trying to work out the finishing positions and then give up and just wait for the caption to appear... which has been known to be wrong in the past. In R&R we trust!

10 each would do it as long as the others completed their races.

Nicholls will never be back at Foxhall as a home rider under the current set up.

Good win for the Aces last night, and would imagine that they should make the Play Off Final, as there home performances having and I would say that they are the team to beat. Ipswich team totally capitulated last night and face what looks like an impossible task of pulling off the aggregated win. But they look like they will win the Pairs, which will just reward for Jason Doyle who has been the standout rider in the League.

That’s true unfortunately but something damn well needs to be put in place. Simple rule. If the home team can’t for fill all there fixtures the away team gets all points. for gods sake they only need to have 10 home fixtures over 5 months! it’s inexcusable that teams can not get all their home fixtures in especially considering the summer we have had. Maybe Ipswich would have been thrashed if the meeting had taken place and Sheffield would be top anyway but we don’t know what would have happened. those at the top need to sort this out for next year but I fear the same old same old

Spent many happy evenings down the road at the "old enemy" with some classic encounters...however, and I'm sure "Robins" fans won't want to be reminded, the night the "Cheetahs" won 56-22 during that glorious year of 1986 (if you were a "Cheetahs" fan!) That apart the memories of Martin Ashby, Bob Kilby and Phil Crump blasting their way round was always a pleasure to behold as well as the likes of Mike Keen and Edgar Stangeland...great memories! A great track when prepared properly and will be sorely missed.

Fantastic memories. First meeting for me 1968...Swindon 56 Belle Vue 22, Briggs and Kilby max. Other highlights, last heat wins at Coventry 2007, and Somerset a few years ago, beating Poole 2012 Grand Final, first league title since 1967, winning 2017 title at Wolves, after winning 17 matches in a row, and clinching the league/cup double in 2019, thrashing Ipswich in front of singing, chanting Robins fans, the last match at the Abbey. Unfortunately sometimes not much more than 1000 at the Abbey in recent times, compared to the thousands that were there in 60s, 70s, 80s. Just the occasional trip up to Oxford now, impressive stadium and crowds, better than no speedway at all. We need to support these tracks or the sport will die.

Disagree with that comment, think both Hume & Mountain have progressed this year too. Plus Jack Thomas was going well for in his first Premiership campaign till he got injured! Get rid of the "rising stars" and these promising Brits may end up getting dropped. With all the issues with Brexit & Polish rules, it makes sense to have rules encouraging more Brits in teams.