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The lift from holder wasn’t intentional therefor no card should be considered,as much as it startled lampart causing him to shut off I don’t think it would of resulted in a crash even if lampart hadn’t of shut off, if it did cause a crash then holder would be excluded but you cant run a sport on what ifs. speedway is a hard game rid by strong minded individuals,sometimes it’s your day other times it isn’t, they all know that

Edwards is a joy to watch on a bike for an old timer like me coming from the upright 2 and 4 valve days. He looks so comfortable on the bike, moves around a lot less than the modern trend but never seems flapped or out of control. Going to Sheffield has probably been ideal for him to let the bike run in the corners and ride in deeper into the bend, having been bought up on the more technical tracks. Steadily improving and fair play to him. Hopefully he can find a PL spot when his Rising Star period ends. Off the bike he seems universally popular and a very good and interesting communicator. Fair play to the lad.

Looks like I've been blocked from the Oxford FB page. Shame clubs can't be as quick to block all the scammers lol! Can't deny I'm disappointed, I don't swear, I'm not abusive to riders, I don't suggest they aren't trying. However I am honest when I comment, such as I think Kemp is better than Killeen & Kerr is better than Kemp. Surely when Oxford made those changes, they must have known they'd come under plenty of stick for it? If they blocked everyone who disagreed with Schroeck's team managing, there'd be virtually no one left!

Regardless what I think our owners have decided not to stream. It shouldn’t even be a debate.

Is there such a rule in British speedway still? I’m sure there used to be. I seem to recall Polish leagues have yellow and red cards for dangerous riding. I’m a neutral but wasn’t Chris Holder’s pass on Lampart on the televised meeting on Eurosport an example of this? I couldn’t believe the ref didn’t exclude Holder.

It's no happening. Hire Brunel to build yourself a bridge and get over it and stop your greeting every time you come to Glasgow

Don't forget Kozza and Rusty, also Christian Henry

It’s not as if it’s a new thing , and the reason given why not. It was explained to him last year why we don’t stream and here we are again same old sh!t different season.

Only match left this season where we can’t watch a Pirates match on a video stream. In 2024 that’s pretty poor from Glasgow when other much smaller clubs in the league have been streaming for several seasons, and making money out of it. Redcar on Friday consisted of a single camera and a commentator when there was action. Hardly costs much to put together and for £11.99 good value for money. As for the meeting, well Pirates should win it but you never know. Was surprised when Glasgow announced their lineup and thought it was below par. Should be a good meeting. Shame you actually have to be at the ground to witness it.

KL problems started from that night it’s been a downward spiral season on season from then on - the rights and wrongs of that night are irrelevant now but riders talk riders see what went on think that has in a way stopped Aussie riders coming to race for the club were as before that night we’d always had a good tradition of using Aussies that seems to have stopped .Has the club signed a Aussie since Holder and Batch ? Off the top of my head I’d say no . Chapmans enthusiasm for speedway died that night as well .

With the riding order changed, it's dawned on me Oxford have weakened in 3 different ways. 1) Riss will score less in the main body of the team. 2) Boughen will score less, now he's not the RS. 3) Killeen will score less as a RS than Boughen did. That's some going when making ONE change lol!

Paid maximums for Lewis Kerr and Drew Kemp coming up.... Oxford Cheetahs: 1. Sam Masters, 2. Cameron Heeps, 3. Ashton Boughen, 4. Jordan Jenkins, 5. Scott Nicholls, 6. Luke Killeen, 7. Jody Scott. Berwick Bandits: 1. Lewis Kerr, 2. Danyon Hume, 3. Drew Kemp, 4. Leon Flint, 5. Jye Etheridge, 6. Freddy Hodder, 7. Joe Thompson.

It doesn’t really we don’t stream end off.

Same for me by saying by replying to someone saying I don’t know what the fans are expecting the management to do. I replied with ‘probably not to weaken the team with every rider change. Quite simple really’ And in response to who do you suggest they sign ‘Not for me to suggest who they sign but every single change has reduced the team average. Simple maths means we are weaker. Previous rules i actually think we were close to the minimum averages’ These were worthy of being removed. Nothing controversial but obviously someone doesn't like not blowing smoke up the management teams bottom . As Ricky Gervais said ’This is the thing about freedom of speech. Everyone agrees with it until you hear something you don’t like’

Zach Cook will be the other guest

Only club it seems to happen at then, as small teams like Plymouth make a profit from the stream. Redcar and Edinburgh also add to their revenue and even Oxford now stream their meetings. With Glasgow a long way for most fans to travel to, the people who pay for a stream would never attend anyway. Plus you could ban a stream for fans who live within a certain distance.

I thought teams had to declare their line up 3 days before the meeting. With King's Lynn team on the Ipswich website having 2 guests TBC and nothing on the KL website at all, will this meeting even take place. Surprised Ipswich haven't got a guest for Doyle (Scotty or Brennan) and be more cutthroat like Sheffield last night at Birmingham getting Fricke in. If they didn't I think they may have lost last night with RR.

You are right, but wouldn't be surprised if his situation changes because his Polish league team (Landshut) are rock bottom of the league and only have 2 meetings left (28th July and 3rd August) with no extra play off matches to come. Riss would therefore only have his Oxford PL meetings left, riders always like to be kept busy up as long as they can in a season. Comets have a guaranteed 9 meetings left plus potential for BSN final x2 (unlikely I know) and potential play-off meetings. Can't think of any other available/suitable riders who are already setup in the UK this season, which cuts down on signing-on fees etc.

For me this is where the meeting was lost for the Brummies... Considering the experience of the 4 reserves, the Brummies pair should not be out scored by the Tigers pair.

I'm sure many teams have instructed riders to finish in certain positions so a tac sub could be used in the next race, cheating well it may or may not be but certainly not exclusive to one particular team and has been going on for years.

They did really well, especially Edwards

Nice to see the Sheffield reserves having a great night

Mainly because I was referring to Tate's replacement. Personally, I feel Workington shouldn't replace Celina, but if they were to, yes, he could make sense.

Absolutely. I started going over to Poland in 2008 to see Ekstraliga matches and went every year up to and including 2019. it was immediately obvious from our very first match at Zielona Gora that speedway was, as you say, just on a different planet there to the UK version. We've taken in several second-tier matches too through the years, and they've been excellent presentations too. As I posted a few posts back, I was at Wroclaw on Friday night after an unintended break away from Poland for 5 years, and, although I've seen just as good - and some better - racing at the NSS, the whole package of attending an Ekstraliga match is an experience to behold. Since getting home, I've watched the match back on TV and, unfortunately, you cannot really get a sense of what it's like to be there in the crowd and watch everything unfold in front of you. To anyone who hasn't been yet - and is physically and financially able to do so - I'd certainy urge them to give it a try.

Well. What could of been a cracking meeting, with a good crowd and atmosphere, could turn out to be underwhelming for Lynn fans especially. I'm sure all the boys will give it their all, but we need a bloody miracle with our 3 top riders out. Wishing Ben and Nicolai a speedy recovery, well as speedy as it can with their injuries. Not forgetting a special mention to our former No 1. Thanks for nothing Tobi.

Both Edinburgh (Hook) and Birmingham (Pearson) signed 4.00 newcomers in 2022, who averaged less than 3.00. They both brought them back for a second season, hoping they'd improve but ended up dropping them. Ironically they finally hit the averages after leaving the clubs, Pearson last year, Hook this year. So if Leibmann lasts the season, which seems likely, they should certainly bring her back & try to reap the benefit of being patient with her. I'd they're not planning to bring her back, don't see the benefit of keeping her till the end of the season? The biggest difference is, Edinburgh & Birmingham were near the bottom of the league, so a change of reserve wouldn't win them trophies, as Workington are much stronger (at 1-5) there is more reason to make a change this season than waiting for Leibmann to hit her assessed average.

Sam Hagon as well in the NDL.

Thank you Sir Sidney. How strange Mr N Pedersen should come up on a thread involving dangerous riding :-) Wagging his rear wheel as he went past and stuffing them in the fence his speciality :-)

Don't forget future World champion Ricky Wallace

And Kevin Doolan, john oliver, Trevor Harding, Ashley Jones in CL era... This is starting to sound like a POE podcast quiz...

My apologies for duplicating your post, Bojangles! (2 mins apart)

Dans a Cunbrian , he would give nowt away . even the skin of hie week old rice pudding . Ben should be okay @ northside , after all the track is based on belle vue . just a bit wider everywhere . looking forward to this meeting, win , loose or draw . a history meeting for comets v pilots as it will be the first encounter at northside , ever !up the cornets , down the pilots . speedway , its a fun sport .

Much needed win for us. Edwards and Gilkes have been really mixing it every meeting now which is key for us in the play offs, if Pickering and Howarth show up on the same night we are unbeatable. same old story for Birmingham unfortunately not all 7 riders putting the needed points down for a win. Leon Flint should be beating Gilkes and Edwards on his own track he seems to be going backwards after a good start to the season. the track was shocking compared to earlier in the season the outside line just wasn’t there which resulted in poor racing

No, they were riding at reserve for B'ham ! (bit harsh on Paco tho....)

Possibly thinking Kvech is Kings Lynn's best rider so matching Emil with him?

id say the pass was more track conditions but the foot out was a bit iffy (only trying to balance but iffy) it did seam to affect lampart if they touched then holder should have been classed as the cause if any went down

Does that include the Jubilee Final

With Lewi, Tom and Scotty, we could stand a chance of some points with you using RR at 1. I did read somewhere on here that Tom might not be available.

You can change 1 like for like, however if you change 2 no matter average then total team must be at or under total team allowance, hence why we had to lose Ace as he would have taken us over the limit, we also had to do it before Jack Smith's new average came into play

Pickering was injured and had been replaced but was going to be reintroduced possibly as fredrik Jacobsen had walked away. (Sounds familiar) but chose to go to Sheffield instead. And I believe he was the lynn captain before his injury

Did the ref not have any drone footage they could review ;-)

All 3 new signings have equal or lower averages than the riders replacing, so could make one change or 3. I don't expect Scott to sign, I'm sure Oxford want him as a 2.00 rider next year. As for Celina & Sam, how long do you wait for them to make the starts? I've seen clips of heats & Celina is certainly on the pace, but that doesn't mean she's scoring points. Workington were very loyal last year & look to be this year too. Poole on the other hand, would make any change in order to win. It's one of the reasons they've been successful over the years.

But apart from Josh Pickering, Kye Thomson, Ty Proctor and Cameron Heeps... what have the Romans ever done for us

I thought the exact same thing! I could be wrong but I think there may have been a couple of rules in days gone by, unfair riding and dangerous riding, I say that as I seem to remember years and years ago Chris Morton was excluded at Coventry and an announcement was made over the PA saying that Chris Morton would like it to be known that he was excluded for "unfair" riding and not "dangerous riding", whether there were 2 rules or it was just announced incorrectly I don't know, but either way the rule seems to be a thing of the past or just not used at all in the last 15 years or so (at meetings I've attended anyway)

I didn't see the match, my comment was based on the point - just because a team puts in an amazing effort - doesn't mean the score will show that. Most of the Oxford riders got a decent score imo, therefore the reason for the bp loss is because they're not a strong team.

Agree, but not many other weeks to choose from since the Olympics starts this week. Event needs to be spread out more, like if the final is in Manchester they qualifying event can be at two other tracks in other parts of the UK so to attract different spectator groups? I also think that SON/SWC needs to be reduced to a biannual event (preferable odd years to avoid clashed with Olympics and Euro/world cup where SON/SWC alternates = if SON next year, then next event is SWC in 2027 and then SON in 2029.

But in those days you had a fair few people in front of you to take the most impact..

He sure is but to the unique way speedway is run you can be out of contract but must still be declared in your old teams 1 to 7 until they sign a replacement.

What a dust bowl…..watching this tonight you can kind of see why this sport is dying on its arse

Probably that many pigeons but not spectators unless you count those in the surrounding flats sitting on the balconies. The sport really needs to drop main channel coverage and allow BSN or others to stream live. Sparse crowds are doing so much damage given the chalk and cheese situation when even lower leagues in Poland attract more spectators. Accept the fact that sport cannot compete with Poland and move on.