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Anyone know if this match is being streamed?

The damage has already been done. As Orion stated, the constant watering down of the standard year on year has seen the crowds fall away. No coincidence. The sport is dying on its ar*e sadly and not sure there is any way back for most clubs now. 90 percent of British clubs have promoted poorly over the years, the powers that be have let things get out of control rules wise and whats left is a rubbish product that most wont take serious anymore.

Looks like I've been blocked from the Oxford FB page. Shame clubs can't be as quick to block all the scammers lol! Can't deny I'm disappointed, I don't swear, I'm not abusive to riders, I don't suggest they aren't trying. However I am honest when I comment, such as I think Kemp is better than Killeen & Kerr is better than Kemp. Surely when Oxford made those changes, they must have known they'd come under plenty of stick for it? If they blocked everyone who disagreed with Schroeck's team managing, there'd be virtually no one left!

I just went over the Oxford Speedway Facebook page and 99% of the comments are positive about the team changes. It's more censored than the Russian media!

Got to pay for the Comets lager, helps club funds, but the empty can will make a nice souvenir of your visit to worky and you can put it on display your mantlepiece

After the spineless actions against Kent last season the weasel is back. This time shutting down the Mercians Amateur Speedway club. They had opted to run under a different governing body (who can blame them) but the Leicester venue have been told its SCB events or non so the club has been forced out. We are talking about good honest people who have done far more for the sport without ever seeking the praise that Vatcher clamours for. The sooner he steps aside and allows someone to act in the overall interests of the sport rather than a select few the sooner the slim chances of a recovery will be. As it stands its another big nail in the coffin of British speedway.

i had nothing to do with putting the side together

How Jye Etheridge still rides for this club is unbelievable. Got to be the worst so called ‘heat leader’ in the league. awful rider.

Too many one track wonders. Douglas single handily won them it last year.

Nooo! Jye is a club hero and even when he’s woeful (all the time) he needs to be out there representing the mighties.

JJ is correct. The track was watered continuously from early morning, and it was only towards the end that there was any dust. Personally, I seriously doubt whether many of the people who post on this site have actually been in attendance at the matches that they comment on. There is a hard core who come what may, will never be satisfied and a good many more who seem to just follow on and and add their own opinions to these comments.

if only the crowds were as enthusiastic at speedway as they are at football, there may be more people through the door.

The clubs really don’t help themselves do they. It costs nothing to promote your own fixtures and they obviously can’t be bothered. Hence why so many former customers don’t bother either.

I hope Joe Thompson’s not in reverse…

Very poor from KL , that preview is on the Witches site and still nothing on the KL website a day before the meeting and this is their home meeting

The cynic in me says they have replacements waiting to go and will announce them 24 hours after Ipswich complete their 75% fixtures next week out of spite.

Agreed - No brainer choice. Closest you will get to a new signing. Provides continuity and maintains some semblance of integrity to a farcical situation

Witches should've booked Tobi as a guest - he is eligible as officially considered still in a declared 1-7

Freddie can only guest once he has ridden 3 home 3 away and established a new average Interesting point re Tobi - he currently is in a declared 1-7 (hence we can't sign him) so in theory could guest. Worth a try even if only to prove a point.....

Lighten up . As Tel said, banter.

If theres no master plan then as you say its plain madness.

seen it all before - terrible team manager at Rye and sacked by K Lynn

Still a few that don't like a good bit of good old banter then.Sadly dying out now for fear of upsetting someone.Take a little bit of banter on the chin and get on with life.Christ we have to put up with the old webbed feet,6 fingers etc,all just a bit of fun.

Deary me how old are you Kelvin?

Let's hope Zach carries his form on from the meeting at Brum on Monday ....

Comments by Peter Schroeck after the match (from British Speedway website) “It’s very deflating to come here with a 16-point lead and not take away the aggregate point". What did he think would happen when he weakened the team? “We didn’t really lose it in Heat 13 or 15, you know what can happen in those races around here with Belle Vue have their big guns out. “We lost the aggregate point in other races where we should have scored more. Then why did he weaken his reserve pairing if he knew he needed points outwith heats 13&15? "It could prove costly at the end of the season and we need to make up for it elsewhere.” That actually sounds like he wants the team to do well & make the play-offs. Based on his team changes I honestly wasn't sure!

Do Worky stream just asking for a friend from Dorset.

There will be quite a few of us doing both meetings. Looking forward to the 4 days in the beautiful Lake District. I am staying in Keswick.

I am coming up Neil. Doing Glasgow on the Friday and Workington on Saturday. Will be good to catch up..

I personally think the riders are dictating the sport to suit their own needs and Promotions are just going with it.They are probably have still got the same wages bill in a seriously weakened league in recent seasons.Dont think crowds have improved markedly at most Clubs.

It was no different to a large amount of passes in the SON - none were questioned. He lifted and gained control quick enough to stop the accident - Lampart quick enough to also help prevent it. IF anything was questionable last night (bar the commentary) it was Howarth's pass on Flint, but again that was due to him picking up and lifting coming out of the corner.

I never seen a team who are trying to put out a worst side to not make the play offs. Please tell me there is a master plan

The result tonight may answer that one. They don't need a 2nd leg

Pilots running scared trying to get meeting off ?

Why didn't the Spires sign Heeps?

Gaffa tape works wonders.

Surely you mean using the the rules to your advantage!

Dare i say ..back in the USSR ?

A member of the SCB board competed in a NORA meeting so just goes to show the views there. The major issue is why are the SCB/Vatcher being so petty? Why not let an amateur club run, let amateur riders enjoy themselves and if any current or future league riders develop through it then all the better for the sport plus along the way it adds a few quid to Leicester's coffers with track hire fee's etc. The petty my way or no way approach is doing nobody any favours, its not like the sport is flourishing in this country anyways. Perhaps the weasel needs a bigger look at himself to work out why more ventures want nothing to do with the SCB.

We have until Aug 1st which is Kings Lynn at home. That will be the 18th meeting, which is 75%. The home meeting v the Aces has still to be arranged...

It is still a rule. That's from the regulations for this year, downloadable from the SCB site.

We’ve not made a single change.

Pearson was an enigma when he came over as he was/is a far better rider than he was delivering. Leibmann clearly has pace but can't gate and that will have to drastically improve if she is to ever get near her assessed average. It strikes me that she is happier having the pace dictated by at least one rider in front rather than be there and set it herself. McGurk could keep his place but solely because there are limited riders coming through. Both he and his brother have been raised on bigger circuits and lack the technical side of thier riding which will always continue to hurt thier progress.

I'm not sure I buy the watering down argument, yes it is watered down somewhat to what it used to be and that was probably understandable post-pandemic/brexit, but in recent years it has been watered-up again with the return of some "stars". Personally I think the reasons are many, I don't think there's one overall reason, you can tinker about with the rules until the cows come home, tac subs, league points, average limits, who you can sign and when it will not attract a single new fan. The best money British Speedway could spend would be getting some kind of consultant in to write a report on the current state of the sport and the reasons behind that and a plan for a complete overhaul. That may involve changes a lot of which the current fan base (and riders) may well not be happy with.

Isn't it the case that Glasgow would have considered an in house stream, as opposed to the bought in one used immediately after lockdown, if there were volunteers to run it? None came forward and the idea dropped.

I will be on the Northern Tour with @Shaleshifter meeting up at the tracks. Are the comets lagers complimentary? Thirsty work all this travelling

If you look at the crowd when BSN are in attendance you'll see crowds at their lowest. Makes more sense looking at that why they don't stream. Also Glasgows stream was very high quality with multiple camera angles around the stadium, must have been quite expensive to have run for probably little to no gain.

It's irrelevant what he got riding against us!

So if it doesn't/won't work why is it that Glasgow, Poole seem to retain there crowds when they are in the so called second tier of British Speedway?, their needs to be a drastic change not only to the promotion/presentation of Speedway but also to the actual make up of what is presented. County Cricket was/is on it's ass a few years ago and still is, but the powers that be introduced Sunday League (40 Overs per side) many years ago, and over recent seasons have introduced even shorter versions ie "The Hundred" etc etc the recent shorter versions of the game of Cricket have seen it thrive worldwide. I think it's time the people that run Speedway in this country took a leaf out of Cricket's book and introduced a shorter version alongside the 4 lap formula, perhaps have 6 man teams as has been suggested, then mid meetings have the 6 riders by the tapes and have 6 x 1 lap dashes the winner 2 points,second 1 point 3/4th places 0 points, is that 3 races each ?, short and sharp to get the juices flowing anyways you get the idea.

I know Nicky P would have played it differently if he was in Lamparts place, he would have bailed and done his outraged act shaking of the head and wagging his finger at Chris holder. meanwhile the cat in the hat would be at the refs box.