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So we're now in the situation whereby we have a ridiculous scoring system because the winner of the GP MUST have the most amount of points but that winner could have finished 10th in the qualifying heats! Utter madness!

Until teams announce their full 1-7 how can anybody say a team is weak at reserve

I think it’s a great idea, just do it big John.

And gives us even less racing for our money.

Tbh if the other clubs are doing nothing to help Birmingham & even raiding their top riders, I wonder should Birmingham pull out of the league? Hope Tolley doesn't let his heart rule his head & go bankrupt. While it's not the job of others clubs to keep Birmingham competitive, surely they know there's a very good chance it'll soon be a 6 team Premiership, is that what they want? Re Brennan if a club doesn't want to use their own asset isn't his current team supposed to have "first refusal" on him?

Bewley, Kurtz, Emil And Doyle, TWICE!!! What's not to like..?

Probably more likely to be Keith McGhie, he's certainly been the Redcar SS "correspondent" in the past.

You could have yes, but that wouldn’t be wise would it? That’s why you’ve made the change you have, it’s suits your club. As for “poach others”, your team has poached Zach Cook that Birmingham pencilled in to their team. You’ve done that out of pure self interest, because it’s a change you simply had to make. As said above, if you really wanted to be helpful, you could have not signed one of your top three and helped others below be more competitive. But you haven’t done that have you? Your club acts no differently to Ipswich or Sheffield. All three clubs have retained their top heatleaders, which is their right to do so. Perhaps you should be congratulating Ipswich for being loyal to riders of this Country? Five Brits I make that in the Ipswich team. Lovely to see. How many have Belle Vue got?

I suppose that depends on whether you want to watch live speedway or only watch it if you win. I much prefer to see good racing, whoever wins rather than boring victories but I know others think differently. I've seen some good meeting where my team has lost sometimes by quite a margin.

There’s no way he really believes the drivel he comes out with so he’s blatantly fishing for bites. Stop jumping straight in to his net 😉 Everyone is fully aware Belle Vue do what’s best for Belle Vue, just like every other club.

No disrespect to either, but .. If those two are One and Five then they may as well shut... Edit. Or some way of allowing them to run in Div 2 on Mondays is found.. No point in Birmingham limping along just making up the numbers, and, if the plan is to move somewhere else, then far better to be seen as successful in Div 2 than out of their depth in Div 1.. Neither title means much outside the few who follow the sport anyway, so either league will get similarly noticed, so locally, winning most weeks could help attendances...

1 Cook 8.42 2 Lightcap 5.00 3 Jenkins 6.21 4 Gilkes 5.08 5 Zischke 6.96 6 Trigger 3.00 7 Bailey 4.97 Total 39.64 From what i heard on Friday night this team isnt going to be far away! Cant say who i have added but i have 5 certs and on good authority the rest are 'Done Deals'.

You been on the same stuff as complin? Jesus christ

Dont see why not. No team can have riders with averages of less than 2.00 so by definition this pair must be among the lowest / weakest in the league. Bear in mind neither actually achieved 2.00 and they were particularly weak away from home.

I think you're underrating Lynn purely because you're comparing them to Ipswich. Any team will look weak compared the the rumoured Witches 25 line up. I'd also disagree that King & Ellis are better than Iversen & Klindt, but there's not a lot in it. Even if the Lynn side is "bang average" that's still an improvement on their last few seasons. Plus an average side could make the top 4.

He has, thats why he's Poole bound

If there's only enough riders (willing to race in GB) to fill SIX teams at a 40 point limit, then how can that be the points limit for a SEVEN team league? I guess if the other 6 teams vote for a 40 point limit not much Brummies can do about it. If there was a 39 point limit, freeing up riders for Birmingham, they league would have the same riders in it, they'd just be spread out more evenly rather than some clubs having more heat leaders than others. At the end of the day, you'd still get some strong looking teams with a 39 limit, someone still has to win the league, this doesn't make it harder for anyone, just more equal for everyone. Very disappointed with every Prem club for only looking out for themselves, which is their right (for short term gain) but may be regretted in the future when they have less opponents to race. I also believe Birmingham should have been allowed to compete in the Champ on a Monday. With so few fixtures, just avoid signing Belle Vue riders & arrange fixtures to avoid needing guests depending on the Monday Premiership fixtures.

If the rumours are true , and this is the team , then it's quite an exciting prospect . Bomber will do what Bomber does , score well and entertain us . Dan Thompson could really kick on next season and become the second heat leader . Leon Flint looked to be finally getting the hang of Ashfield towards the end of the season just past. Kyle Howarth is a proven performer and will ride to his average . Young Mr Boughen could be capable of much improvement. Yes the reserves look a bit on the weak side , but they are young lads and you just never know . I'm confident Freddie Hodder can compete adequately in the home fixtures at least .

Brennan did well for us last season, he carried the Team on many occasions until Lindgren arrived. The way I look at it is this. Brennan is the only realistic prospect of a British rider breaking in to SGP full time in next 3-4 years realistically on the horizon. Whether he is good enough is open to question but he has to optimise his chances of doing so. Will he do that carrying a team at Birmingham knowing its 95% sure to close as the Stadium closes in a years time or being a third heat leader behind 2 experienced GP stars at Ipswich, where he could legitimatley stay for a number of years and step up the pecking order in time and learn from those around him, rather than carry them. He will have a solid UK base, is building his profile in Poland and also gaining valuable experience in Sweden. I'd actually argue that had he NOT gone to Ipswich, he'd have been better off riding CL at Poole than PL at Perry Barr in terms of his development in 2025. Thanks for all your efforts Tom, onwards and upwards young man!.

So Riss & Pijper vs Vissing & Ablitt, who would score more combined?

Wright, Mulford, king, Edwards, Riss, ace P, Tom Spencer

You will. I’ll be surprised if you beat any of Belle Vue, Sheffield and particularly Ipswich at home. They’ll all have far too much firepower for Lynn to handle. That’s potentially 6 home defeats right there. With the greatest of respect to him, I just can’t take Lynn seriously with Ben Cook at number 1.

You can change the Brums team manager...😉

Tht team is awful

If it was all about £££ then Rew would've been in and Danny would have departed

The 2025 team has to excite at least on paper. In my opinion this team just doesn't cut it.

So he’s world class and is in such demand that he has an empty calendar?

the same as Poole in the championship IMO .

Batch Zischke Howarth Hagon Starke Wood Hodder

I know there’s been speculation…..but I didn’t know Poole had actually moved from Winbourne Road?…….lol

What's to sort out, you only need to read top of page 1 🤔

Would love to see Erik back at Redcar. The Promotion can’t have failed to notice that he got one of the biggest cheers at Redcar last year when it was announced he was going to guest for the Bears for one meeting

..... and saves 20 mins on the running time of the meeting.

Oxford yes, but Birmingham moved up due to race night restrictions not primarily because they wanted to, theres always the possibility that Lynn would of dropped down as well i suppose

maybe young cairns can be persuaded to ride on a proper racetrack once he turns 16

2024 averages Inc bonus, Ellis 6.92 Rew 6.19. Bearing in mind their riding positions, including Adam is the obvious choice imo. If Brennan is the last rider, it's a cracking team...

With Pete Adams involved I think he could rip Leicester's 1-7 to pieces if they haven't actually signed as I think riders like Masters and Douglas would love to team up with Pete again. However if Pete doesn't get involved then it's not looking good brev. (With Pete) 1. Lindgren 8.13 2. S. Worrall 5.69 3. Masters 7.32 4. Douglas 7.30 5. Thorssell 7.33 6. Palm Toft 4.13 or Voulas 4.13 7. Edwards (RS) = 39.90 (Without Pete) I know it's awful! 1. (7.50 Assessed rider?) 2. Sedgmen 4.79 3. S. Worrall 5.69 4. Lampart 4.93 5. Thorssell 7.33 6. Kerr 4.77 7. Edwards (RS)

if young PERRY doesnt fire we still have young PIJPER when he is 16 years old.

Makes it all more of a lottery... meh

After the Speedway Stars revelation that Mulford was back at Redcar I've heard he's going to Glasgow.

I don't think it can be, even owning a riders contact couldn't be enforced if it went to a court hearing etc. but have previously heard clubs getting warnings for "tapping up" riders, so assume there's some "rule" in place?

Your premise is spot on, but the problem is, even if Peter Adams gets involved, would Nigel Tolley have the finances to sign a team of riders that would like to ride for Peter ?

Looks very likely now the final 2 are Doyle and Brennan, and to be honest, that is some side. Dissappointing to see Keynan leave (If True), especially if it is to do with Money, but i suppose we won't ever know that. On where Keynan goes, could be Birmingham although some have mentioned he might not do the UK this season, which would also be sad, especially after the season he had last year. Belle Vue is touted but by all accounts Zack Cook replaces his brother Ben as the only change there, so don't know what to think. Buit its the Annual P*** up this week, so i'm sure we will know a lot more by the end of the week. Quite a lot on here who get slated for posting teams and being in the know as they say, have this silly season got a lot right, and yes it keeps the forum going, and i thank them for keeping the Boring months when Speedway is finished entertaining. I just love this sport, and we need to keep the UK Flag flying.

Need Pete Adams to join Chris and convince some of his former Wolves riders to line-up for Brum next season.

How about this team is it's a 40 limit? Charles Wright 8.37 Danny King 7.88 Claus Vissing 6.34 Jason Edwards 6.18 Nathan Ablitt 4.91 Jake Mulford 4.27 An Other 2.00 Total 39.95

Is it just me, but do any others think Kvech will prove to be a pretty good number 1 this season with the experience of last year beginning to learn tracks etc. If he can after the first average changes, with Ben riding in the middle order or at 5 would be a solid team, not playoff winners I imagine but certainly could get to them, a lot of ifs what's and maybes but probably won't lose many at home.

Do you have any evidence of PM actually doing something along the lines you are insinuating or are you taking the opinion of others and trying to turn them into being factual?

No he won’t.

No-one would deny that. But Leicester have to drop points from the 2024 side. They wouldn't choose Howarth for Lawson because they think it's strengthening up.

Bumped into dan bewley today what a gent he stopped to talk was in no rush to get away ,not many other sportsman would have been so nice.