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From what I hear transport was arranged to take the bikes to Poole, but the rider forgot or did not want to arrange transport to get himself to Poole. So no fault of worky . Also the ban is meaningless as the season is over, why can't it be rolled over to the 2026 season

There's a lot of Brits in the crowd... we really will turn up and watch any old crap 💩 😂

If Max and Freddy were to continue improving at this rate they will have good careers ahead. Max is steady whereas Freddy can't gate but battles past riders when possible. Too many young Brits have chucked it so don't see what unwarranted criticism achieves here. We finish top of the league and make the play off finals. That's plenty good enough for me thanks.

It might be an odd question, but is there any point to all this !!!! It's like watching the funeral of speedway. One last ride before we go, so to speak !!!!

good god give Brennon a ride.

The winner of the SGP2 should definitely be nowhere near the main SGP series, it's generally years before they're anywhere near the level required to be in the main series if ever at all. The last WU21 Champion currently in the series is Max Fricke who won it in 2016, it's taken him 10 years to get from that level to his current level and he's still relying on wild cards to qualify.

Organisation and a strong hand on the tiller, no rearranging matches because a rider is a reserve in the Timbuktu Open Championship.

They have completely ruined the world cup week format. back in the day it was a brilliant spectacle , even if the racing was gate and go it was still exciting and well attended. this new format is absolutely pathetic. why oh why do they change things that arent broken but any thing broken they do nothing about?

All that ‘racing’ when it was always obvious GB and Sweden would be top 2 and Germany and Latvia would be 3 & 4. Could have just had this one off race.

GB, Sweden, Denmark, Australia should be direct in final with Poland. just have 1 off race off if required for the last 2 places.

That my point about riders whose ambitions are in Poland even if your decent over here your just “used” in Poland.As a lot of them have found out. Bowes has attended meetings in Poland missing fixtures in GB and has just sat in the pits not being used. His last match in Poland was 4 rides 0 pts hardly inspiring stuff.

Poland has always been where the money is ,but getting them to hand it over has been a problem for a number of riders over the years.

Generally speaking, the winner of SGP2 is way behind a regular GP1 rider. After winning GP2 series and GP after GP getting beat by top riders could demoralise the young lad and set him back. When Martin Vaculick came to GP1 he did well initially....but then didn't bother with GP1 fora few years to give himself time to mature as a rider. He came back into GP1, with more experience, came 2nd in GP1 just couple years ago. Sadly this year not performed too well, maybe he carrying an injury or something. Just after Fricke winning SGP2 came Drabik and Smektala, between them they won 3 GP2 on the trot. Neither of them yet in the GP1 series full time, Jaimon Lidsey the same. I think Jan Kvech was 2nd in GP2 just 3 or 4 years ago, he will come back in 2 or 3 years better then he is now, hes picked up the experience.... it was just too soon for him.

Because they want us to see what they want us to see not what we want to see. There are those who say, if you don't like it don't watch it. Therefore they don't watch it and they don't come back.

Why are Poland hosting it then?

Well said ! Your are the best informed member of this Forum on what's going on in Polish speedway. Keep it up!

Looking at the crowd and I use that term loosely, it seems the only nation to send some fans are us

Tatum is earning his money tonight talking this up!! Made me chuckle when him and Louis were shouting the odds on how GB were on fire in beating Italy 🤣🤣

theres such a gulf between the ability of the teams makes for very predictable riding results

Do they? It's tucked away on TNT9 for a reason and they should count themselves lucky with that!

What this crowd needs it a Mexican wave

The criticism wasn’t aimed at belle vue it was at discovery and the FIM who clearly haven't learnt any lessons

Think this was to be predicted,rubbish format and Competition. Just to try and stop Poland winning everything every year.

Record crowd of nobody

Workingtons problems had nothing to do with money,steve was very clear in the "star" about that.

Who'd of thought it? In October as well? It might be "pie in the sky" but for 2026 how about - BSN Final by end of July - KOC Final by the end of August - League meetings complete by end of August - Play-off Semi's and Final in September.

Oh dear, so that rules him out of the...*checks notes* Premiership PO final. The guy has explicitly told everyone his season is over and they've responded by banning him for 28 days. Shambles.

I don’t think you can underestimate the pressure our team building put on those two young men. The number six - Hodder to begin with and now Perry - had a remarkably tough gig, especially. Neither have had the protection of an even slightly more experienced reserve partner - a Grahn, a Starke or a Hook, for example - to bear a bit of the weight and afford them to the time to develop. I’m not sure what I’d do next season. I think a lot of that depends on how the month of October goes.

Not for me, it has to be one or the other, especially with nothing other than pride riding on it, the "LCT" would become nothing more than an end of season fixture filler.

Sports that think they're right and the fans are wrong tend not to do too well 🤔

Often happens the best teams play in cup and playoffs so there is regular fixture congestion

There should be no qualifying. I do not want to see Bewley, Zmarzlik and Kurtz racing each GP off the perceived best gates. A draw makes the whole meeting more interesting. I get why they did it, but please go back.

In football ,the top 3 teams in the championship get promoted. The same 3 teams usually get relegated the following year. But the same rules apply every year. They get their chance. The 3 teams freshen up the top league at least. New faces . And if any are good enough then they stay up. It’s evolution to a point. As for the young riders not being good enough, how will we know until they get their chance. We know they won’t come out on top straight away but it will be interesting to watch their progress. The 3 wildcards aren’t good enough too. Otherwise they wouldn’t need a pick year on year. The gp has gone stale. Wheeling out the usual suspects who’ll never challenge the top spot will just worsen it.

Inclusivity, that's the only reason

Belle Vue got slaughtered for crowds last year, but this is Poland so must be ok. Ticket sales look barely half full for final on Saturday too.

unfortunately not every team can be a winning team no matter what sport though. fans (me included) can be very fickle, so its down to the promoters to get people there even if there team isnt winning.

Didn't Crump get a wildcard for being u21 champ or did I dream that? Vaculik, hmm I think rather than didn't bother he failed to get through the GP Challenge and has had about 6 wildcards now, so is he still trying to make the grade😉

That’s the best excuse I’ve heard.👌👍

6pm UK time- all week

Both Poole and Redcar websites have the KO Cup meetings on 5th and 8th Oct respectively. BSPL have not updated their fixture list yet - possibly because the office is involved in big meetings taking place in Rugby at the moment apparantly!?

I'll have you know Harry Redknapp is a huge speedway fan, and has been since he saw Bartosz Zmarzlik score his first century at Poole. Told me so himself.

The whole thing's a bit half arsed isn't it? The time starts when they close the pit gate! Come on! The camera is often on the wrong rider, with each rider seemingly just being shown for 15 seconds each before the camera cuts to the guy holding the red flag, it's so TV by numbers it's laughable. The clock showing how long is left in the session is unreadable. If they are going to do it they should at least attempt to do it properly and put some thought into it.

Brought to the top as someone would have asked if i hadn’t have done !!

Because they need every rider possible to fill up the teams...

Would the sprints be better if both riders started opposite each other on the straights and shown on a split screen like they do with cycling

Personally I think the BSN series should be completed first because it was an early season competition. Then the KOC, cause there's no reason that should have run so long either. Finish up with the play-offs. I would think that would get a big crowd whenever it is raced. Whereas the BSN may get a smaller crowd of fans have already just watched the play-off & KOC finals. I can certainly see the logic in finishing semi finals before racing finals, means the other finalists can plan dates without having to wait though. The BSN series should have been completed months ago, no excuse for it going on so long. Of course clubs tend to ignore it as they want to get their league fixtures over & done with, I don't really know why, the cut-off date doesn't need to be so early it'll cause havoc with fixtures. I also think it would have made sense for the Redcar vs Poole match to be a double header, that seems very logical, save on travel expenses & get competitions completed sooner. Oh I forgot, another reason to race the KOC finals first is to get bigger crowds. Poole & Redcar fans can't be sure they'll be in any more finals, so they may turn up in greater numbers for these matches? If it was just one out of 3 guaranteed finals, would they get the same attendance?

That last paragraph is a great point. Part of what makes pre-season so interesting. For the comments saying Glasgow should have gone with a stronger reserve, I've not seen any suggestions of which top rider they should have gone without to fit a better reserve in.

Yes. He's already agreed to return.

The championship is a very huge jump from the NDL, you're riding against some premiership number 1s and riders that have been at the highest level. Max and Freddy last season were struggling for points (Max was even dropped). At the start of this season they'd have had a good meeting if they scored a point outside of heat 2 but now they're scoring 6+ points and really contributing. While they've not suddenly doubled their average like Cairns did I don't think it was really expected they would. They have definitely had a big improvement, Max and Freddy would run laps around their start of season selves, If they just had a bit better consistency and could carry their home form to more away tracks they would make a significant gain on their average but again it's a tough league so they'll need more time to build on that.

The Ipswich Bitches . Christ what will you be like if Doyle dosent get his wildcard . The worst part of your lot coming out of the woodwork into a final is the likes of you piping up with your garbage. Come on Max and the Lions . Everyone but the bitches are rooting for you.