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From what I hear transport was arranged to take the bikes to Poole, but the rider forgot or did not want to arrange transport to get himself to Poole. So no fault of worky . Also the ban is meaningless as the season is over, why can't it be rolled over to the 2026 season

There's a lot of Brits in the crowd... we really will turn up and watch any old crap 💩 😂

If Max and Freddy were to continue improving at this rate they will have good careers ahead. Max is steady whereas Freddy can't gate but battles past riders when possible. Too many young Brits have chucked it so don't see what unwarranted criticism achieves here. We finish top of the league and make the play off finals. That's plenty good enough for me thanks.

It might be an odd question, but is there any point to all this !!!! It's like watching the funeral of speedway. One last ride before we go, so to speak !!!!

good god give Brennon a ride.

The winner of the SGP2 should definitely be nowhere near the main SGP series, it's generally years before they're anywhere near the level required to be in the main series if ever at all. The last WU21 Champion currently in the series is Max Fricke who won it in 2016, it's taken him 10 years to get from that level to his current level and he's still relying on wild cards to qualify.

Organisation and a strong hand on the tiller, no rearranging matches because a rider is a reserve in the Timbuktu Open Championship.

They have completely ruined the world cup week format. back in the day it was a brilliant spectacle , even if the racing was gate and go it was still exciting and well attended. this new format is absolutely pathetic. why oh why do they change things that arent broken but any thing broken they do nothing about?

All that ‘racing’ when it was always obvious GB and Sweden would be top 2 and Germany and Latvia would be 3 & 4. Could have just had this one off race.

GB, Sweden, Denmark, Australia should be direct in final with Poland. just have 1 off race off if required for the last 2 places.

That my point about riders whose ambitions are in Poland even if your decent over here your just “used” in Poland.As a lot of them have found out. Bowes has attended meetings in Poland missing fixtures in GB and has just sat in the pits not being used. His last match in Poland was 4 rides 0 pts hardly inspiring stuff.

Poland has always been where the money is ,but getting them to hand it over has been a problem for a number of riders over the years.

Generally speaking, the winner of SGP2 is way behind a regular GP1 rider. After winning GP2 series and GP after GP getting beat by top riders could demoralise the young lad and set him back. When Martin Vaculick came to GP1 he did well initially....but then didn't bother with GP1 fora few years to give himself time to mature as a rider. He came back into GP1, with more experience, came 2nd in GP1 just couple years ago. Sadly this year not performed too well, maybe he carrying an injury or something. Just after Fricke winning SGP2 came Drabik and Smektala, between them they won 3 GP2 on the trot. Neither of them yet in the GP1 series full time, Jaimon Lidsey the same. I think Jan Kvech was 2nd in GP2 just 3 or 4 years ago, he will come back in 2 or 3 years better then he is now, hes picked up the experience.... it was just too soon for him.

Because they want us to see what they want us to see not what we want to see. There are those who say, if you don't like it don't watch it. Therefore they don't watch it and they don't come back.

Why are Poland hosting it then?

Well said ! Your are the best informed member of this Forum on what's going on in Polish speedway. Keep it up!

Looking at the crowd and I use that term loosely, it seems the only nation to send some fans are us

Tatum is earning his money tonight talking this up!! Made me chuckle when him and Louis were shouting the odds on how GB were on fire in beating Italy 🤣🤣

theres such a gulf between the ability of the teams makes for very predictable riding results

Do they? It's tucked away on TNT9 for a reason and they should count themselves lucky with that!

What this crowd needs it a Mexican wave

The criticism wasn’t aimed at belle vue it was at discovery and the FIM who clearly haven't learnt any lessons

Think this was to be predicted,rubbish format and Competition. Just to try and stop Poland winning everything every year.

Record crowd of nobody

Workingtons problems had nothing to do with money,steve was very clear in the "star" about that.

Who'd of thought it? In October as well? It might be "pie in the sky" but for 2026 how about - BSN Final by end of July - KOC Final by the end of August - League meetings complete by end of August - Play-off Semi's and Final in September.

Oh dear, so that rules him out of the...*checks notes* Premiership PO final. The guy has explicitly told everyone his season is over and they've responded by banning him for 28 days. Shambles.

I don’t think you can underestimate the pressure our team building put on those two young men. The number six - Hodder to begin with and now Perry - had a remarkably tough gig, especially. Neither have had the protection of an even slightly more experienced reserve partner - a Grahn, a Starke or a Hook, for example - to bear a bit of the weight and afford them to the time to develop. I’m not sure what I’d do next season. I think a lot of that depends on how the month of October goes.

Not for me, it has to be one or the other, especially with nothing other than pride riding on it, the "LCT" would become nothing more than an end of season fixture filler.

There aren’t insufficient riders. There are insufficient riders of sufficient quality. Granted it all amounts to the same thing, bad news for British Speedway and its fans. That lack of “good enough” riders is at least partly a result of the doubling up doors being jammed wide open for all about 15 years ago. A short sighted decision at the time that is now coming home to roost. At that point there were more than enough riders to go round. Rider power probably drove that one. Recently it’s been exasperated by the tighter visa rules post-Brexit it seems. It’s definitely a case of a best case scenario out of the current mess. One league seems to me to be more of a ballsy attempt to give the sport a long term future, not without massive potential pitfalls. The standard would drop, it’s unavoidable, but it could be the only way to repopulate the domestic rider pool in the mid to long term. Otherwise we end up losing clubs annually, dropping to teams of five (horrible idea) and before long there’s nothing left. Carrying on as we are seems to be agreeing to continue with death by a thousand cuts. It would be just another sticking plaster.

They thought they would get a big crowd. Problem is the FIM (or whoever) have blunted the competitive edge of these world championships to the point of making them meaningless.

You should direct your question to FIM, not Poland.

That didn’t work out well!

Polish fans aren’t actually bothered with SoN or World Cup. They have the best league and travel everywhere for the SGP.

Then why act an idiot over here then.

You make the most important point, everyone is formulating the leagues for next year. Where on earth are they getting the riders from? Doubling up starting killing UK speedway in 2003 when riders were allowed to double up in the ill fated British league Cup. I'm sure a number of ex riders will be well informed and tell us they simply couldn't make a living out of it and had to pack it up.

Dan Bewley has never ridden for Torun !

got to say Lambo and Bewdy , 2 home Torun riders must have a good shout at winning this again. Poland look the biggest threat to taking the crown from "Team GB" . Aside from Kurstzy Australia look maybe a shade weaker than the rest. Lady luck will prevail - its all on t he gate 🙂

I agree league matches should be completed before the play-offs. But it would be daft to not allow a KOC fixture to be raced between 2 clubs who have finished their fixtures because others still have to finish theirs.

Poland haven't been paying lots of riders in ALL leagues, why do you assume it's worky's fault, I know some issues reared it's head mid season, but surely the promotion would be sqeekey clean after that

So many questions, in an ideal world the One League system is the way to go but it will have a dramatic effect on the way it operates with costs etc. No way will the likes of Kurtz , Bewley , Fricke , Doyle etc be able to ride in such a League even the so called lesser riders like Masters, Lawson, Harris (Heat leaders in both leagues) prefer and demand to ride in two British league sides to make a living. Its a complicated and sad way the British Leagues have evolved.

Actually as a rule Redcar are the easiest club to deal with

Personally, I don't see the point of them. I'm not bothered about the points they can add or anything, I just don't really think they add anything in the current format. We went to the one in Wroclaw and it was just 30mins of a pair of riders going around followed by one race. Aside from a quick flash of the times now and again, there was no build up towards anything. It wasn't bad but I wouldn't rush back. Also, does qualifying really matter in speedway? I know some tracks will have their gate bias, but it's not like you're starting 15m behind, you're still getting 5 rides the same as everyone else.

I doubt if Harry Redknapp knows enough about speedway to bring in new major sponsors so your comments are just speculation. Glasgow is owned by very successful businessmen who I can't see risking their future by joining the premiership until it would be viable for them. Again, why would Recar or Plymouth want to take the same risk? If this did happen, the Championship, as the most viable current league, would be so depleted it would be no better off than the current Premiership

What were the Edinburgh Riders and Management doing to miss that? With riders, mechanics and management, there must have been at least 20 people who missed something happening in plain sight. How did those pesky Glaswegians hide it from them all?

Absolutely spot on. I found the Speedway Star recent edition which claimed something like "70% of fans want one big league" to be totally irresponsible. It seemed to be 70% of people responding to a dishonest question The question they were responding to was "Would you support one big league if it had 14 strong teams with good quality riders, and equally competitive teams?" But get that thought out of your head. A "yes" answer to that question is irrelevant. That's not an option. One big league, running on any racenight, would automatically rule out anyone who races in the Polish leagues. Gone would be: Max Fricke, Jack Holder, Brady Kurtz, Dan Bewley, Emil Sayfutdinov, Jaimon Lidsey, Josh Pickering, Ryan Douglas, Jason Doyle, Michael Jepsen-Jensen, Chris Holder, Tom Brennan, Luke Becker, Jan Kvech, Tobias Musielak, Nicolai Klindt, Matej Zagar, Keynan Rew, Ben Cook, Maciej Janowski, Rohan Tungate, Norick Blodorn, Francis Gusts. So that's 23 riders gone from Britain. So what will the Premiership bring to a new combined league? JUST ADAM ELLIS ! Every other rider who ride in the Premiership in 2025 (apart from Adam Ellis) doubled up into the Championship. We can't count them twice. So, the 5 teams joining the "One Big League" (Belle Vue, King's Lynn, Ipswich, Leicester, Sheffield) are bringing Adam Ellis to the party, but they need 5 x 7 = 35 riders. So these big 5 need to take 34 of the doubling up riders.... The remaining 9 championship clubs need 9 x 7 = 63 riders..... but 34 of them are not availsble because they can no longer double up. So suddenly we need a further 34 riders. Where are they coming from? We could look to the National League, but many of the NDL riders already double-up into the Championship, others are still only 15 years old, so even if we take every NDL rider right down to the lowest 3.00 newcomer, we still can't get close to filling 14 "One Big League" teams. Then of course, with no one able to double up, will riders be happy to have their income reduced by so much? Or will they quit the sport? What happens when someone gets injured? Where will replacement riders come from? ONE BIG LEAGUE CANNOT POSSIBLY WORK.

Much better version of what I said the other day on this. It isn’t just a small handful of 8/9 point riders that would be missing, it’s a hell of a lot more than that. It’s completely unworkable!

Ambition is one thing but coming halfway round the world into totally different cultures and expect to be riding every day in different counties that seems to be the problem. Complaining of no sleep and contestant travelling etc. Uk needs riders so establish yourself here first then look to Europe when you’re good enough.

If this is true, right there we have one of the problems with British speedway, riders these days expect, well those days are long gone, the sport isn’t in the position to pander to these demands,some of the things riders expect these days is unattainable and it’s not just top riders, I got told a few weeks back about a current championship rider who wanted a large guarantee to ride in a amatuer meeting, riders deserve the world but unfortunately the cake just isn’t big enough to feed everyone the slice they want

Owlerton doesn’t really have straights and what it does are very short