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Here is the opening two paragraphs from the 2026 press release... (continue the each as you wish). "British Speedway will enter a bold new era in 2026 that is sure to excite fans across the country following their AGM at the weekend..." "Chairman of the BSPL, Rob Godfrey said he felt satisfied that the sport will be the real winner with all the promotors working collectively in the best interests of the sport..."

Don’t think the rule is necessary when you have a points limit.But that’s Speedway.

Tactical but i plead ‘ not guilty ‘ it wasn’t me that did that dastardly act lol

Sadly, it's official that Danny King won't be in The Bears team next season due to the one rider over 8 point rule, It was announced at the Redcar awards do last night. He said his farewells and received a standing ovation from the supporters. It's unfortunate when rule changes force riders out of a team place. That apart it was an excellent evening, and good to see Erik there looking well.

Your missing the point I’m making, it’s Buxton I’m talking about, where you wouldn’t own the track but the rent is tiny compared to other tracks and that is for practically unlimited use and you get the money from absolutely everything from catering to practice days, as I said it’s not the ideal solution but it is by far the best most cost effective solution to the crap that British speedway finds itself in, honestly making a point to you lot is like talking to the bspl 😂

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Where’s Pickering? Surely he’s a certainty in Sheffield’s 1-7?

A couple of days ago I read on here he was on his way to Workington. Principal is the same, if they want to share out the top riders, just make sure no-one gets missed out whatever average they end on. i.e could be one rider over 8, one over 7.9, one over 8.1, just don't make a rider unemployed because of the ruling.

And that’s where the sport will be changing,the money for riders will be less, do Oxford get catering and bar profits ? Which as any entertainment business will tell you is where you can make serious money, Len silver used to let fans in for free at rye house when they were against lesser attractive teams so he could make more money on his fish and chips and beer and that was a fact, I know I was there on a few of those occasions, the tv money was not really a pittance, in the grand scheme of things it was a welcome few quid for promotions and will be a big loss, on average rent for a track is around £50,000 a year, some more some less, so if you pay nothing that’s £50,000 saved before you have even started,I haven’t anywhere said this is a perfect solution but it should be considered because the alternatives are far worse and far more costly

Barely did this year did he?

People need to stop seeing TV coverage as a tool to promote the sport. If that’s the aim then the promoters should take out some prime time advertising on television. The days of flicking through the channels and stumbling upon something are long gone. There are too many channels and streaming options. Television companies aren’t going to give out a deal to help push speedway to the masses. They want something that is established and will bring eyes to their channel. The promoters need to make the sport an attractive proposition for a broadcaster to take an interest not expect a TV deal and for that TV deal to suddenly attract fans through the gates of tracks.

Rather keep Pickering and get rid of Chris

So what if one or two other teams do a Scunthorpe and sign an 8+ rider who didn't ride in the Championship last season? Some of last seasons 8+ riders will miss out on a team place. My point is valid. We are told there is a shortage of riders but potentially some will the frozen out! What is the points limit for? Teams should be built to the limit but how that's done should be up to the promotions.

Appreciate that I’m biased as it’s the club I support(ed) but allowing Rye House to die was a real travesty. A track that owned the stadium and had no restrictions over when it could operate. Somewhere that could have been a real asset to the sport in this country. Around the same time I’m pretty sure other tracks were bailed out too. Ones with bigger names but less solid foundations.

Another rider who I'd target if No TV deal happens is........Scott Nicholls. Last Premiership GSA was 5.69 (5.55 after 2.5% Reduction) and he'd score bucket loads around Foxhall @ No.2 imo.

Seems like a real possibility as I feel one more year in championship would probably be best for him to go out on a high and prove himself as a no1 rider,and getting Emil machinery there’s every chance he can push on to that level and would make a good spearhead with Nicholls and he can learn off him aswell.

I don't think it really matters anyway as long as you've got the correct blend of riders.

Yet we keep getting told there are a shortage of riders.

Klindt not doing championship possibly.

Neither do I. In fact it’s damn stupid

I'm not initially a fan of this rule, will have to see how it works in practice. Danny been a solid signing for the Bears, appears a good club man and a fair racer.

@racers and royals? 🤔

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but maybe teams should have invested all of the money into the stadiums/land/facilities and then used the increased revenue on riders, rather than just going straight for the riders. This would also have prevented a lot of the issues we are having now of teams be kicked out of their stadiums or being priced out due to the increased price of land and shrinking revenues

The elephant in the room is or is never appearing to be addressed by the powers that be, lack of riders or finance for riders or development of riders for example. I think if someone done a straw pole of riders who quit in the last 20 years because they couldn't afford it I think the numbers would be shocking.

I have always thought it strange that anyone still at school isn't allowed in for free... The Aces (I think), let U12's in for free on the back straight, which is a good idea... However, just as they become more interested and nuanced in the sport the person who takes them now has to pay for them... Just at a time too when they start going out with their mates, and going somewhere (by yourself), that your Dad and Grandad attends suddenly becomes "very uncool".. Let all school kids in for free, let them bring their mates for free, and let them "sod off" by themselves if they so wish... Some will never become "paying punters" but some will, and some of those will be "mates" who never attended Speedway, until their mate who did, took them.. These "teens" are not there now in any numbers worth a mention, so let them in for nothing as you have nothing to lose, but maybe something longer term to gain... It is barmy that at somewhere like the NSS (particularly on TV), swathes of seats and terracing lie empty when thousands of kids attend local schools and play in local sports leagues... One of the positives of internet purchasing is that you gauge well in advance as to what your ticket sales will be like on the night, as the "walk up and pay on the gate people" will have an average number too... Therefore if your capacity is 2000 more than you expect to turn up, flood the local schools, kids groups, sports teams etc etc with free tickets... They, and their parents/guardians, will not be turning up to pay anyway, so nothing to lose... And if the odd few parents, who do actually attend, get a free ticket then its a small price to pay to give the optics out that you are a "popular sport"... People are very much sheeplike and get easily led by seeing a "big crowd", and just automatically latch on to it, and follow it.... The opposite also is true, ie. If it looks unpopular, it must be unpopular, and something I won't be interested in following...

1. S. Masters 10.09 2. C. Heeps 4.93 3. M. McDiarmid 5.18 4. L. Killeen 5.15 5. E. Riss 7.12 6. D. Gilkes 4.59 7. 2.94

I'm in the right ball park with this 1-7, Maybe one out? 1. R. Lawson 2. B. Bailey 3. L. Kerr 4. F. Bowes 5. A. Rowe 6. W. Cairns 7. C. Rushen

His daughter acted as his ‘manager & translater ’. What was promised never materialised and what Freddie used was suspected to be a ‘one off’. The few that made it to the UK were deemed decent enough but no professional rider used them after trying them so most were given-bought by NDL standard riders .

Whats to say Edinburgh dont stick with the three 7ers ( Victor Palovaara 7.35 Justin Sedgmen 7.34 Paco Castagna 7.05 and dont even sign an 8 pointer. Thats another place gone.

Pickering. Never gives up & appears to be a good team man. Certainly steer clear of the brothers grim.

They started 2025 0.94 below, so yes they might well start that far below next year.

It would be great to have Dan T back next season??

I was devastated to hear Danny say at the awards evening that he won’t be back, why does speedway keep shooting itself in the foot , I’m sure or I hope Danny will get fixed up but there may be some riders who don’t , looking at the averages it’s Redcar who have been post penalised as others like Poole and Glasgow only have one rider over 8 once reductions applied

That’s because Poole fans always know best.😂

I shouldn't worry. A KL fan isn't going to know more than someone connected to the club.

So joining the dots Lawson Rowe Kerr Bowes Cairns Rushen A N Other

I hate gambling, my step son is an addict and its wrecked his life. But riddle me this if we get into bed with gambling,, race fixing. I worked with Adam Shields for many years and the year he left Eastbourne for Lakeside he took a booking to guest for Greg Hancock with Reading at Arlington. Adam was on form and it worked out if Reading conceded a 4-2 in heat 7 they could bring Adam into heat 8 on a double points score. A rider had a retirement in heat 7 with a Reading rider getting a second, Adam went out in heat 8 and got the 6 points. Now, is that race fixing in the bookies eyes or as I feel, a tactical move?

Disagree. I don't think limiting an 8 point rider would achieve anything.

You live in a world of unicorns. Any rider with ability will make it regardless. Those that don’t have it, just don’t have it. No “magic beans” will Suddenly make riders of limited ability suddenly make it to the big time through coaching. The greatest riders of all time could teach me all day long, I wouldn’t be able to get on a bike and compete let alone be successful!

If my sums are correct exactly on the (current) 40 limit Jack Holder - 9.08 Chris Holder - 6.84 Tobiasz Musielak - 6.63 Danny King - 6.50 Nick Morris - 5.89 Leon Flint - 5.06 Luke Harrison - RS Total - 40.00

British Speedway has two options. A) make sure it is the one other league that riders choose or B ) strike out on its own. Remove the fixed race day and rebuild its own product. Short term the big names will stay in Poland but if we focus on developing our own riders in the long term we won’t be as reliant on Poland propping the sport up as it apparently (according to Poland) does right now. The bubble could always burst in Poland. It did here after all. It is in our best interests to have our own sustainable model here in the event of that happening.

Its clear from the interview that the FIM are not held in any regard whatsoever by the Poles.. They do believe that they subsidise the rest of world speedway... Which, to be fair to them, they certainly do to a large extent... The £400k (and quite often much more) that the top riders get does enable them to ride for much less in other leagues, and put together their GP set ups...

As the sport barely runs 6 months of the year now, 'semi-pro' could mean 6 months pro and 6 months working to fund their semi-pro speedway career. Riders may cry about this but if the sport keeps heading in the direction it is then their speedway career will become an amateur hobby. Everyone needs to wake up and realise this. Unnecessary costs must also be cut so that riders and clubs have a chance at survival.

The vast majority of sports are amateur or semi-pro, including olympic athletes. Those competitors make it work but you say speedway riders cannot?

I’d fact check before making comments like that. Blatantly not true. They are great at plenty of sports as already mentioned in another post, not to mention that they have one of the greatest female tennis players in Iga Swiatek who is a four time French Open champion, has won the US Open and the biggest of them all, Wimbledon.

The money they pay ,they are entitled to call the shots.Looking after the sport in their own Country.Which GB have failed miserably and let the riders dictate,and look at the situation now.

Fits within a 40.00 Limit. 1. S. Masters 2. C. Heeps 3. M. McDiarmid 4. L. Killeen 5. J. Jenkins 6. D. Gilkes 7. J. Scott

Agree, it is about what works for the local business model. Tracks/promoters/home teams can no longer rely on swelling the coffers with income from the opponents spectators attending away matches. Firstly you have the cost of travel, then the possibility of a call off because a dark cloud is expected at around the first race and add to this the fickle attitude of riders who cannot cope with damp tracks etc. and that is just a few of the reasons why racing from yesteryear does not work today. Week day speedway works for a number of clubs but others have seen increased support from weekend meetings when at least the chances of away support increases. Tracks need to promote what’s on offer when they can get the best number through the turnstiles. It is so difficult to come up with a formula that works for the speedway demographic given the self interest of the club owner/promoter and the influence of overseas competition where some riders can, assuming they are good enough, earn top dollar in places like Poland but I still wonder how many riders sit down and work out the risk factors should they end up on the sidelines because of an injury and are asked to repay the advance fees. it is a shame that so many on this forum have good suggestions on ways to improve the offering but no one is listening. Oh well we await the annual debacle in November and thankfully ignore the outcome and instead look forward to another season of racing from Poland which seems to be so much more organised.

maybe the exciting new times is there will be an even better top league with a even bigger TV deal and sponsor money so the premiership can form an even bigger and better premiership with less double uppers and oxford want part of that but with the OG name cheetahs