dontforgetthefueltapsbruv

I appreciate that (I started but agreeing all your arguement is 100% correct) but was pointing out that the comparisons are not only affected by the number of teams changing but also by the pool of riders lost or gained as the change happens Take your example re Staechman and Parker becoming 8.5 point riders after being 6 point riders because of one big league. This was because the riders introduced to boost the numbers were low end 'rookies' below the standard of the pair Had the new rider pool been drawn from 'world class' level above the standard of that pair then their averages may well have fallen I was trying to set out why 2 people can disagree on the outcome yet having been using the same set of statistics You cant really compare one 16 team league with another 16 team league let alone a 16 team league with a 7/8 team league from the average figures alone as other significant variables are in play rather than just league size

Given that I cant put my hand up for Byker () and you can - could you please clarify my point about when companies have to have the accounts audited I wouldnt want any misunderstanding as a result of my lack of qualification

Great figures Steve and there is no doubt from a purely statistical position a larger league produces more riders with higher averages I will however play devils advocate with the below as Equally if the riders dropped from the league in the example were the top boys then the lower end riders 'promoted' to the 1 3 and 5 positions would go from averaging 3.33 2 and 0.67 up to the higher figures They would still be the heat leaders but fans may view it that the "heat leaders are what they used to be" or "we dont have heat leaders anymore" as they remember the higher quality riders previously in the league even though those riders remaining now have the higher averages Perhaps this scenario is closer to the actual situation at the moment. Particularly when the fans can so easily see those higher quality riders that would previously have filled the top positions in our league riding in Poland and Sweden and the GPs with TV and the internet Thats why we currently see the likes of Lawson and King at Ipswich on a not too disimilar averages to that Woffy and Pawlicki would come in on That situation hasnt been caused by a reduction in team numbers but rather an exodus of the top riders in recent years

Accounts dont have to be audited unless the turnover reaches certain levels and no speedway club will be close to that position

Another way to look at it.... This is a Championship side - BWD wasnt in Somersets Championship side last year as there wasnt one!

Id say you knowledge of the facts is at its usual level

He may well only own 2 through 2019 and be back to only 1 for 2020

Thanks for posting that Steve - Id left for work and missed it Brought a tear to the eyes and a lump to the throat What a fantastic effort from Ricky and his family. Great to see the huge improvements being made and no one can doubt that there will be more successful progress given the attitude of determination

Not if the clock doesnt start until the ponder crosses the line - as Gambo points out a rider could sit for a few seconds finish many yards behind yet post the fatest time from the ponder result

Negative 'fake news' from Mr Webb then.... At least he is consistent

Time will all start at same point when tapes rise Clock will stop when cross the line so will be a significant difference from front to back of bike

Where is the common sense in a pairs/team event being decided by an individual run off?

If you are using the transponders to decide close finishes it has to be

I would like this to be possible My only doubt is that with the amount of power and tension at full revs no movement must be almost impossible

How about Louis Carr/Lewis Kerr

Agree thats seems the logical position. Need to be identically placed independantly and the riders not allowed to meddle That should cover almost all eventualities

That would be a fundamental change to who wins a race though At the moment its any part of the bike cutting the plane of the finishing line (usually the front wheel) but would now be the transponder

Good point Also what happens when one rider reaches the line on the back wheel with the bars slightly crossed against a rider pointly dead straight The straight wheel could reach the line first but the transponder be behind the rider with the crossed bars.....

Yes because speedway press releases are a known paragon of truth and virtue Lets see how it pans out

Just a hunch - may be right may be wrong

2 out 7 is under a third not nearly a half....

Welcome back Kevin

Will they be working with Buster????

The finances I think was an early smokescreen to the discussion that has been found to be a red herring.....

Just need confirmation of who the owner is now......