2025 Torun SON and SON 2

[Youhave2minutes]

20 minutes ago, IainB said:

Why are Poland hosting it then?

Makes you laugh really

[Youhave2minutes]

5 minutes ago, Hawk127 said:

The lack of supporters in the stadium will do nothing to raise any interest in the competition and frankly putting this on live t v is an embarrassment.  Anyone who is foolish enough to have paid TNT or whoever it is who expects to be paid for that live performance will be well disappointed. The new promotional team who have taken over from WBD have a lot to do to generate a modicum of interest let alone achieve a level of interest that provides a return on the investment.

Needs restructuring 

[NickB]

1 hour ago, old bob at herne bay said:

Looks pretty chilly out there jusging by the spectators clothing . Speedway in late September a bit chilly . 

It  was a tad nippy!

[Phannan]

22 minutes ago, Hawk127 said:

The lack of supporters in the stadium will do nothing to raise any interest in the competition and frankly putting this on live t v is an embarrassment.  Anyone who is foolish enough to have paid TNT or whoever it is who expects to be paid for that live performance will be well disappointed. The new promotional team who have taken over from WBD have a lot to do to generate a modicum of interest let alone achieve a level of interest that provides a return on the investment.

Three exciting new wildcards in the gp may help them in their cause . But that’s a different story…. And a different event 

[RPNY]

Almost certain there will be a big crowd Saturday and a big crowd in Warsaw next year. Both SoN eents at Manchester were superb. Love WTC, Love SoN (except for the terrible name)

 

For those complaining, there are a 1000 other channels you can switch over to...

[Pinny]

They have completely ruined the world cup week format. 
 

back in the day it was a brilliant spectacle , even if the racing was gate and go it was still exciting and well attended. 
 

this new format is absolutely pathetic. 
 

why oh why do they change things that arent broken but any thing broken they do nothing about?

 

 

[Pinny]

They have completely ruined the world cup week format. 
 

back in the day it was a brilliant spectacle , even if the racing was gate and go it was still exciting and well attended. 
 

this new format is absolutely pathetic. 
 

why oh why do they change things that arent broken but any thing broken they do nothing about?

 

 

[RPNY]

Just now, Pinny said:

 

why oh why do they change things that arent broken but any thing broken they do nothing about?

 

 

Good point

[old bob at herne bay]

So Australia and Denmark tomorrow to joind the final , wonder if the crowd will be as small as tonight ? 

[Mr. Clemens]

4 minutes ago, Pinny said:

They have completely ruined the world cup week format. 
 

back in the day it was a brilliant spectacle , even if the racing was gate and go it was still exciting and well attended. 
 

this new format is absolutely pathetic. 
 

why oh why do they change things that arent broken but any thing broken they do nothing about?

 

 

 

Because they want us to see what they want us to see not what we want to see.

There are those who say, if you don't like it don't watch it.

Therefore they don't watch it and they don't come back. 

 

 

[IainB]

21 minutes ago, Mr. Clemens said:

 

Because they want us to see what they want us to see not what we want to see.

There are those who say, if you don't like it don't watch it.

Therefore they don't watch it and they don't come back. 

 

 

Sports that think they're right and the fans are wrong tend not to do too well 🤔

[Col]

2 hours ago, Rob B said:

 GB, Sweden, Denmark, Australia should be direct in final with Poland. just have 1 off race off if required for the last 2 places. 

Yes... and it's basically between Germany, Latvia & Czechia.  Let the France, Italy, Norway, Finland, Argentina, USA & Slovenia compete first to face them.  And hold the three semi's over three legs in Germany, Latvia & Czechia on the day that nation has hosted a GP.  Might get some interest then.

2 hours ago, old bob at herne bay said:

Looks pretty chilly out there jusging by the spectators clothing . Speedway in late September a bit chilly . 

Yes... it was sodding cold in that stadium tonight.

2 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

Looking at the crowd and I use that term loosely, it seems the only nation to send some fans are us 

I saw a woman in a Slovenia scarf, there were a few Germans, a couple of Swedes and a bunch of chaps from Argentina!  No Latvians though, have seen them in Manchester.

1 hour ago, Mr. Clemens said:

They thought they would get a big crowd. Problem is the FIM  (or whoever) have blunted the competitive edge of these world championships to the point of making them meaningless. 

 

Rubbish.  I've been to... 2014 SWC race-off, 2017 SWC race-off, 2023 SWC semis & race-off.. all hosted in Poland, without Poland competing, none of which were well attended.  Poles don't turn up unless Poland are competing.

47 minutes ago, RPNY said:

 and a big crowd in Warsaw next year.

That World Cup will be awful. The temporary track at the Narodowy starts getting rutted up after 3-4 heats on a single night. How on earth is it going to cope with 4 events?

32 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said:

So Australia and Denmark tomorrow to joind the final , wonder if the crowd will be as small as tonight ? 

Probably exactly the same people as were there tonight, except the German's will go home.  The noise that is generated in that arena is still superb without the hoards watching.

[Rob B]

1 hour ago, RPNY said:

Almost certain there will be a big crowd Saturday and a big crowd in Warsaw next year. Both SoN eents at Manchester were superb. Love WTC, Love SoN (except for the terrible name)

 

For those complaining, there are a 1000 other channels you can switch over to...

I suggest you look at the ticketing website for Saturday, thousands of tickets still available, most blocks have over 100 seats available in them.

[therefused]

26 minutes ago, Col said:

Yes... and it's basically between Germany, Latvia & Czechia.  Let the France, Italy, Norway, Finland, Argentina, USA & Slovenia compete first to face them.  And hold the three semi's over three legs in Germany, Latvia & Czechia on the day that nation has hosted a GP.  Might get some interest then.

Yes... it was sodding cold in that stadium tonight.

I saw a woman in a Slovenia scarf, there were a few Germans, a couple of Swedes and a bunch of chaps from Argentina!  No Latvians though, have seen them in Manchester.

Rubbish.  I've been to... 2014 SWC race-off, 2017 SWC race-off, 2023 SWC semis & race-off.. all hosted in Poland, without Poland competing, none of which were well attended.  Poles don't turn up unless Poland are competing.

That World Cup will be awful. The temporary track at the Narodowy starts getting rutted up after 3-4 heats on a single night. How on earth is it going to cope with 4 events?

Probably exactly the same people as were there tonight, except the German's will go home.  The noise that is generated in that arena is still superb without the hoards watching.

As far as I’m aware the World Cup final next year is only at Warsaw and the semi finals are elsewhere 

[THE DEAN MACHINE]

2 hours ago, psycho3a said:

I had forgotten it was son week.. turned on to see timo lahti riding for Sweden... wtf, he is Finnish and rode in individuals and world team events for Finland..  surely you can't swap and change.. 

and there it goes once again, speedways credibility riding off into the sunset 

[Col]

2 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

and there it goes once again, speedways credibility riding off into the sunset 

Ten years after Rune Holta won the World Cup for Poland?  People are moaning that Lahti is competing for Sweden?  Mark Loram was born in Malta!  Tai Woffinden was raised in Australia.  People in glass houses.