2025 Torun SON and SON 2

[bigcatdiary]

34 minutes ago, Ajr said:

How can you outscore a team and not quaify. So wrong 

A bit like a Finnish rider riding for team Sweden against his own country, it’s complete and utter pants and the idiots in charge sanction it.

It’s difficult to understand why supporters don’t go and watch this spectacle isn’t it.

[Col]

That 3rd / 4th race-off at the end is useless, makes the preceeding 6 heats those pairs have ridden a waste of time.  Parnitskyi would have been an interesting spoiler in the final as I'm sure Lebedevs will prove to be, less faith in Kvech I have!

[ShanoXtra]

5 minutes ago, Col said:

That 3rd / 4th race-off at the end is useless, makes the preceeding 6 heats those pairs have ridden a waste of time.  Parnitskyi would have been an interesting spoiler in the final as I'm sure Lebedevs will prove to be, less faith in Kvech I have!

Bubba will be a spoiler for Saturday I’m sure, he beats parnitskyi and rides in a more challenging Ekstraliga instead of M.2… both riders are great and fun to watch!

[Fromafar]

1 hour ago, IainB said:

It'll be interesting to see how he goes once his Kowalski engine goes pop 💥

That’s the same for a few riders though.🤔

[Bojangles]

50 minutes ago, bigcatdiary said:

A bit like a Finnish rider riding for team Sweden against his own country, it’s complete and utter pants and the idiots in charge sanction it.

It’s difficult to understand why supporters don’t go and watch this spectacle isn’t it.

It's not exactly just a speedway thing, though, is it? Happens in almost every sport.

Declan Rice (football, Ireland and England) and Israel Folau (rugby, Australia and Tonga) are two high profile ones I can think of off the top of my head... although I'm sure there are thousands of examples.

[Col]

All Blacks hoover up the best of the south sea island talent (Fiji, Samoa, Tonga) for themselves... Find someone looking Japanese in the Bold Blossoms!  Italy Rugby team are mostly players not quite good enough for NZ or Argentina.  There is a chap born in Sandwell playing for West Brom in the Hungarian national team.

Edited 1 hour ago by Col

[Col]

And the vaguely successful late 80's early 90's Rep. of Ireland football team were mostly English.

 

[old bob at herne bay]

Well SoN semi finals are over , first time I have watched live speedway on TV this season. 

What a load of dross. Seen better entertainment at Hackney on a Saturday afternoon trainin session watching juniors practice. 

Possibly 2 races in the 42 heats of speedway. FTG rubbish on a very slick track, specially prepared by Morris.   

Unless the lad Morris gets some shale down on the track by Saturday looks like being a borefest with everyone riding 1 metre from the fence following each other around once they have got past bend 2 on the first lap. 

We havent seen the gating of the Poles , but on the performances so far , Kurtzty looks quickest from the starts so dont see anyone beating him on that track.  All the others are pretty inconsistent gaters ... 

Maybe they will get a biger crowd for the "final" - at £90 a pop for the best seats the racing will need to be good or there will be a riot. 

 

[szkocjasid]

2 hours ago, Ajr said:

How can you outscore a team and not qualify. So wrong 

I think it's a stupid rule, but no difference than a 4th place team winning the Premiership, 6th place team winning the Polish Extraliga or the 10th placed rider winning a GP!

Nowadays an "exciting" ending is more important than a deserving winner / qualifier (sadly)!

Edited 47 minutes ago by szkocjasid

[szkocjasid]

4 hours ago, Col said:

Bizarre exclusion for Mustonen, sure he impeded Bellego but they both stayed on their bikes would have made the race more interesting.  Wide line doesn't seem to be generating the speed it did last night.

Yeah, didn't understand that decision by the ref.

[THE DEAN MACHINE]

3 hours ago, IainB said:

It'll be interesting to see how he goes once his Kowalski engine goes pop 💥

It’s an ashtek GM 

[szkocjasid]

2 hours ago, Hawk127 said:

Only in speedway could a team accrue more points in the main meeting such as Ukraine and the team with fewer points in the Czech Republic qualifies for the final. No wonder few take this two wheeled sport seriously.

Happens in football with play-offs. Probably many other sports too.

I don't agree with it, but it's not a Speedway only rule.

[Youhave2minutes]

Battle between the Poles and Aussies for the trophy. Lambert will let Bewley down.