Bald Bloke Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 15 minutes ago, tellboy said: Lynn wouldn't have a 3 point reserve.If for instance Lynn got rid of Cook and Iversen that would give Lynn 14.27 to use before month end,that's Zmarzlik and a 5.27 rider😁.Cook/Klindt would give you 13.90 that's a 9 pointer and a 4.90 rider.None of them nowhere near a 3.If they were to tempt Lambert(which they won't )they could have something like 6.66 or 6.29.Or actually if Cook was to ride you could bring Lambert in for Klindt.So they could quite easily get a no1 in without having to get a 3 pointer.When I say easily,I mean on the average fitting idea,not actually being able to convince a no1 to come and ride here. What a thought.. I make NKI and Cook 12.87 (6.74. 6.13). Cook and Klindt 12.50 (6.13 . 6.37). Unless I'm confused, which is highly likely 😃. Still enough to avoid a 3 pointer though if I'm right.👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 2 hours ago, Aries said: I fear for him at the moment I’ve got to be honest. A dislocation can often be worse than a break to heal to do it twice in as many weeks has got to have an effect , he's not in the first flush of youth either as you get older healing takes longer . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 21 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: What a thought.. I make NKI and Cook 12.87 (6.74. 6.13). Cook and Klindt 12.50 (6.13 . 6.37). Unless I'm confused, which is highly likely 😃. Still enough to avoid a 3 pointer though if I'm right.👍 The team is under the limit by 1.40👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 5 minutes ago, tellboy said: The team is under the limit by 1.40👍 And i checked 3 times 😀 What a prize... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 Ipswich fan here and some of the comments by Ipswich fans on social media are embarrassing Blaming Kvech being at reserve last night … well nothing wrong with that it’s how Lynns team is built …. Also saying if we had a full team we would have won… we lost by 12 no guarantees and we were beaten by the better side Still King gets stick he is more than doing his job …. Ellis is struggling and Brennan is inconsistent 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 I don't see why King is singled out he may have struggled later in the meeting but he won heat 8 and he beat everyone he should be beating. Ellis and Brennan are both very inconsistent and are costing the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 Where is King getting stick, haven't seen anything on here? Most on here have singled out Ellis & Brennan in the engine room struggling at the moment and inadequate guests to cover for Dan T. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 7 hours ago, tellboy said: At this present time you only have about 7.54 to play with to replace Cook,who is apparently back next week anyway.You wouldn't really get a number 1 on that average imo.Lambert would come closest though on around a 7.61 I think.Lambert could replace Klindt? Good all round performance last night in the end,with only Iversen not performing.He'a had a strange season stat wise,only 3 race wins until he wins 3 at Oxford on Thursday,then he had 2 last places all season until he gets 3 last night,without his 2 exclusions oʻ🤔 Didn't Lambert ride 6 meetings in 2023 (his most recent mercenary adventure ) and average 9.60 - surely this should be his average...... I am aware there is only 2 home meetings in the sample but it is still the most accurate reflection of his standing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 49 minutes ago, Bash said: Where is King getting stick, haven't seen anything on here? Most on here have singled out Ellis & Brennan in the engine room struggling at the moment and inadequate guests to cover for Dan T. Gavan is obsessed with people giving King stick for some reason. Nearly every post mentions it. Im pretty sure Gavan brings it up whether anyone has mentioned King or not at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 2 hours ago, Bash said: Where is King getting stick, haven't seen anything on here? Most on here have singled out Ellis & Brennan in the engine room struggling at the moment and inadequate guests to cover for Dan T. He said social media, so maybe a Facebook group? Some of them can be pretty intense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 2 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Didn't Lambert ride 6 meetings in 2023 (his most recent mercenary adventure ) and average 9.60 - surely this should be his average...... I am aware there is only 2 home meetings in the sample but it is still the most accurate reflection of his standing The final issue of the averages of that season had him on a 7.81 average.If you was to take of the 2.5% Brit reduction that would leave him on about 7.61.Anyway regardless of that i was just pointing out that Lynn wouldn't end up having a 3 pointer at reserve even if they got a no1 with an average of 9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 (edited) 4 hours ago, Gavan said: Ipswich fan here and some of the comments by Ipswich fans on social media are embarrassing Blaming Kvech being at reserve last night … well nothing wrong with that it’s how Lynns team is built …. Also saying if we had a full team we would have won… we lost by 12 no guarantees and we were beaten by the better side Still King gets stick he is more than doing his job …. Ellis is struggling and Brennan is inconsistent Not as fanciful as you’d think. The heat 15 5-1 made the score look worse than it was, it was an 8 point deficit going in to heat 15 but you’d think a fit Doyle and Emil would have at the very least shared the final heat. Mountain scored a solitary point, so there is where your 8 point deficit is made. A modest five point return from Thompson which he’s more than capable of, would mean a superheat. All ifs buts and maybes of course and at the end of the day, nobody from Lynn will care a jot, but it’s not completely fanciful to suggest a fully fit Ipswich side could have gotten a result. Edited June 17 by Steve Irving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 3 hours ago, therefused said: Gavan is obsessed with people giving King stick for some reason. Nearly every post mentions it. Im pretty sure Gavan brings it up whether anyone has mentioned King or not at this point. I think he thinks he is King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelvinht Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 1 hour ago, Steve Irving said: Not as fanciful as you’d think. The heat 15 5-1 made the score look worse than it was, it was an 8 point deficit going in to heat 15 but you’d think a fit Doyle and Emil would have at the very least shared the final heat. Mountain scored a solitary point, so there is where your 8 point deficit is made. A modest five point return from Thompson which he’s more than capable of, would mean a superheat. All ifs buts and maybes of course and at the end of the day, nobody from Lynn will care a jot, but it’s not completely fanciful to suggest a fully fit Ipswich side could have gotten a result. Or a fit Ben Cook could have made a difference.... or Kildermand not got injured at the weekend. All 'if' 'buts' and 'maybes'. It's what happens on the day and over the last few seasons we've had more than our fair share of things not working out for reason or another. We won, we happy, on to the next one! 3 points behind Leicester... c'mon the stars... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 2 hours ago, tellboy said: The final issue of the averages of that season had him on a 7.81 average.If you was to take of the 2.5% Brit reduction that would leave him on about 7.61.Anyway regardless of that i was just pointing out that Lynn wouldn't end up having a 3 pointer at reserve even if they got a no1 with an average of 9. That average is from 2019 and therefore completely obsolete and irrelevant to what he should be IF he were to hold his nose and grace the UK again for another mini stint The Brit reduction is also for initial declaration only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 16 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: That average is from 2019 and therefore completely obsolete and irrelevant to what he should be IF he were to hold his nose and grace the UK again for another mini stint The Brit reduction is also for initial declaration only Well it obviously stood in 2023.Anyway that wasnt my point as I said earlier,I was replying to you when you said if Lynn got a no1 then they would have to have a 3 pointer.This is clearly not the case as of this month anyway😊 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 47 minutes ago, kelvinht said: Or a fit Ben Cook could have made a difference.... or Kildermand not got injured at the weekend. All 'if' 'buts' and 'maybes'. It's what happens on the day and over the last few seasons we've had more than our fair share of things not working out for reason or another. We won, we happy, on to the next one! 3 points behind Leicester... c'mon the stars... That’s exactly what I said Kelv and none of it matters does it. My point was a response to “Ipswich wouldn’t have won even with a fully fit team” when there is every chance they MAY have and the reasons I’ve given are more than valid. Not sure 7+1 from four rides from Cook’s RR was much of a handicap either the way he’d been riding this season over here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 Well hopefully when the second round comes around both teams will be at full strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 8 hours ago, Gavan said: Ipswich fan here and some of the comments by Ipswich fans on social media are embarrassing Blaming Kvech being at reserve last night … well nothing wrong with that it’s how Lynns team is built …. Also saying if we had a full team we would have won… we lost by 12 no guarantees and we were beaten by the better side Still King gets stick he is more than doing his job …. Ellis is struggling and Brennan is inconsistent I too have not seen King getting stick. He seems to have settled into the role he's expected to fulfil - as part of the engine room supporting Sayfutdinov and Doyle. Racing against KL, King, Brennan, and Ellis are pretty much matched directly with the likes of Klindt, Iversen, Harris, or Lawson - so they are all capable of beating each other (depending on lots of variables). As I always say - race the same match with the same riders another night, and you'll get a different result. if Iversen had been on form, KL might have got the BP! If Ellis had been a few points better, it would have been closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo95 Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 7 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Didn't Lambert ride 6 meetings in 2023 (his most recent mercenary adventure ) and average 9.60 - surely this should be his average...... I am aware there is only 2 home meetings in the sample but it is still the most accurate reflection of his standing Seems to be 6 matches this season so that is what Lambert's average should be. Victor Palovaara has a 4-2 split. Sure Peter Kildemand had the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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