Youhave2minutes Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 55 minutes ago, topaz325 said: Speedway 2025, Birmingham announce closure at the end of the season, problems at Worky, rain offs, many injuries, guests and more guests, riders going missing riding abroad (yes I know long standing issue). The sport is an absolute joke how itโs run. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocha Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 5 minutes ago, Normski said: All Workington riders have been banned from guesting while the clubs suspension is taking place. So Voulas and Foord both supposed to be riding tonight have been banned and will not be riding for Birmingham and Ipswich. Thus could be the case although it would be somewhat harsh to suspend riders just because the club they currently ride for has been suspended as that is out of their control. There is, however, another issue. If Ipswich replace Jenkins, would he then be removed from the Rising Star list as he has a CMA in excess of 4 so is no longer eligible and therefore cannot be re-introduced at a later date.ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 This isnโt hard to understand and canโt see why forum members over reactย Firstly Jason Edwards does not have a club he isnโt part of Birmingham he was released for Sam Hagonย The fact Birmingham are riding tonight is has as much relevance as Belle Vue riding tonight โฆ Edwards does not have a club Put it this way if Ipswich redeclare without Jenkins then if he comes back he can guest for any other club as he wonโt be a Witchโฆ come on speedway fans this isnโt that technicalย Foord was originally asked to guest It now appears all Workington riders are banned from guesting โฆ. Foord now canโt ride tonightย Speedway has lots of things that make the sport lack credibilityโฆ but tonight definitely isnโt one of themย ย 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 Canโt understand the Workington lads being blocked from guesting, not their fault their champ club is having difficulties is it, the two young lads riding elsewhere in another league tonight would make zero difference to that situation, howโs it different to ziscke riding for belle vue? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 2 minutes ago, Gavan said: This isnโt hard to understand and canโt see why forum members over reactย Firstly Jason Edwards does not have a club he isnโt part of Birmingham he was released for Sam Hagonย The fact Birmingham are riding tonight is has as much relevance as Belle Vue riding tonight โฆ Edwards does not have a club Put it this way if Ipswich redeclare without Jenkins then if he comes back he can guest for any other club as he wonโt be a Witchโฆ come on speedway fans this isnโt that technicalย Foord was originally asked to guest It now appears all Workington riders are banned from guesting โฆ. Foord now canโt ride tonightย Speedway has lots of things that make the sport lack credibilityโฆ but tonight definitely isnโt one of themย ย Not quite sure why everyone is struggling with this. Lynn are a perfect example. Declaring and re-declaring their side containing different RSโs whenever it suits. Ipswich are without their current rising Star, so they can choose another rising Star that isnโt currently declared in another teams 1-7. Whereโs the confusion? For what itโs worth Iโve NEVER liked the crock of sh!te that is the rising Star scheme. You have the NDL and Championship to develop riders. When theyโre good enough, theyโll naturally get their chance in the top flight (whilst itโs there). As for preferential picks in order of which position teams finished in a totally different season, donโt get me started on that farce! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 11 minutes ago, Gavan said: Foord was originally asked to guest It now appears all Workington riders are banned from guesting โฆ. Foord now canโt ride tonightย Speedway has lots of things that make the sport lack credibilityโฆ but tonight definitely isnโt one of themย ย I think this part is incorrect, it looks like Ipswich originally redeclared with Foord as a rising star, not as a guest. Presumably they then realised if they reverted back to Jenkins they could have Edwards guesting.ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 4 minutes ago, Aries said: Not quite sure why everyone is struggling with this. Lynn are a perfect example. Declaring and re-declaring their side containing different RSโs whenever it suits. Ipswich are without their current rising Star, so they can choose another rising Star that isnโt currently declared in another teams 1-7. Whereโs the confusion? For what itโs worth Iโve NEVER liked the crock of sh!te that is the rising Star scheme. You have the NDL and Championship to develop riders. When theyโre good enough, theyโll naturally get their chance in the top flight (whilst itโs there). As for preferential picks in order of which position teams finished in a totally different season, donโt get me started on that farce! cant imagine it will go on again next year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 (edited) Can't they just bring in Edwards as a 28 day injury replacement and then see what happens after that with Jenkins Edited July 7 by Bash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer1969 Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 Don't think Ipswich management are too happy with all this, the raceday preview on their website dated 4th July keeps very slightly changing, first it said Vinnie Foord would be guesting then was amended to Jason Edwards would be guesting now it saysย "Vinnie Foord had been due to guest but the club were forced into a late change and it is Jason Edwards who now rides at number seven".ย ย If Workington riders have been banned from guesting it's a diabolical situation I don't like to see any club go under but Workington had 7 days to sort the problem but couldn't so they were given another 7 days to sort it and in the meantime riders are being deprived of being able to work through no fault of their own. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 43 minutes ago, 89buttons said: Canโt understand the Workington lads being blocked from guesting, not their fault their champ club is having difficulties is it, the two young lads riding elsewhere in another league tonight would make zero difference to that situation, howโs it different to ziscke riding for belle vue? Birmingham did Vuolas visa and as they sacked him it reverted to Workington and their riders cant ride due to these visa issues. Belle Vue did Zischke visa so hes allowed to ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 If Workington riders aren't allowed to ride as a guest for any other team it shouldve been made clear on 27th June when the Workington situation came to light.ย Tate Zischke can ride for Belle Vue as he is contracted to ride for them and they sorted his visa out.ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toady Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 30 minutes ago, Triple.H. said: If Workington riders aren't allowed to ride as a guest for any other team it shouldve been made clear on 27th June when the Workington situation came to light.ย effectively preventing those riders from earning a living, ridiculous.ย 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 5 minutes ago, Toady said: effectively preventing those riders from earning a living, ridiculous.ย Only the ones who need a visa, foord canโt guest because his NDT rides tonightย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 1 hour ago, Gavan said: but tonight definitely isnโt one of them ย I think it is shouldnโt someone in authority know that the Workington riders are banned from taking guest booking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 24 minutes ago, cowboy cookie returns? said: I think it is shouldnโt someone in authority know that the Workington riders are banned from taking guest booking? I agree with that totallyย What Iโm going on about is the โfansโ who canโt understand why Edwards is riding โฆ. The simple answer is โฆ. HE DOESNT HAVE A CLUBโฆโฆ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 2 minutes ago, Gavan said: I agree with that totallyย What Iโm going on about is the โfansโ who canโt understand why Edwards is riding โฆ. The simple answer is โฆ. HE DOESNT HAVE A CLUBโฆโฆ. Because he is/was out injured otherwise he would have a club, if he knew he was going for a practice last night then he should of told Bham that if all went well he would be back, if he did and Bham didnโt want him then fine but did he tell them or did he just tell Ipswich ? If Birmingham redeclare him tomorrow or in next few days then itโs makes a complete mockery of the sport as a team sport, credibility is everything, speedway has non ย and fans and I use the word lightly who donโt see the issue are the sycophants that are enabling the end of the sport in this countryย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 12 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Because he is/was out injured otherwise he would have a club, if he knew he was going for a practice last night then he should of told Bham that if all went well he would be back, if he did and Bham didnโt want him then fine but did he tell them or did he just tell Ipswich ? If Birmingham redeclare him tomorrow or in next few days then itโs makes a complete mockery of the sport as a team sport, credibility is everything, speedway has non ย and fans and I use the word lightly who donโt see the issue are the sycophants that are enabling the end of the sport in this countryย Itโs irrelevant though, Gavan is correct he doesnโt have a club so is free to guest. Not sure why youโre blaming the fans for enabling it when itโs the ridiculous rulebook which is the issueย 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 12 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Because he is/was out injured otherwise he would have a club, if he knew he was going for a practice last night then he should of told Bham that if all went well he would be back, if he did and Bham didnโt want him then fine but did he tell them or did he just tell Ipswich ? If Birmingham redeclare him tomorrow or in next few days then itโs makes a complete mockery of the sport as a team sport, credibility is everything, speedway has non ย and fans and I use the word lightly who donโt see the issue are the sycophants that are enabling the end of the sport in this countryย Itโs irrelevant though, Gavan is correct he doesnโt have a club so is free to guest. Not sure why youโre blaming the fans for enabling it when itโs the ridiculous rulebook which is the issueย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellers101 Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 Fancy an away win at The Dust Bowl tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 Not many predictions. It should be a close one, I'll go 44-46 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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