What will 2026 UK speedway bring?

[M.D]

1 minute ago, Phannan said:

I can’t honestly say I have any faith in that lot improving anything in any amount of time really. 

No, issues go back years, semi pro and a rebuild.

[1 valve]

10 minutes ago, M.D said:

This means in basic, at this present time, Poland have no control over rider and what they do on a Monday to Thursday, change this and they will have even greater control on what riders do affecting riders availability to league racing.

They do have some control via the terms of the contract agreed between club& rider. 
aka as I understand, from 2027, riders contracted to Ekstraliga will only be allowed to ride for one other team in Europe. 
Of course if they don’t want that limitation then they are quite entitled not sign the contract. 

[Phannan]

1 hour ago, TigerIain said:

Anyone that knows the facts knows the Glasgow promotion are not lacking in ambition. They just aren't stupid enough to risk their business propping up a failing Premiership in 2026. They do have ambitious plans, and have made them public, to grow Glasgow speedway but at a steady and sustainable pace. The same way any sensible businessman builds their business. 

If Glasgow and Poole were in the premiership then that would go a long way to making it more of a prestigious league. One that if they came out on top of, their ambitions would be possibly met. But I’m talking sporting ambitions, not just business ones with local derbies etc. I understand that businesses have to be profitable and sustainable, but therein lies the problem. Everyone is out to look after themselves and not look at the bigger picture of saving our sport. That’s why it’s going down the pan rapidly. And Glasgows business plan will amount to nothing. 

[Fromafar]

4 minutes ago, Phannan said:

If Glasgow and Poole were in the premiership then that would go a long way to making it more of a prestigious league. One that if they came out on top of, their ambitions would be possibly met. But I’m talking sporting ambitions, not just business ones with local derbies etc. I understand that businesses have to be profitable and sustainable, but therein lies the problem. Everyone is out to look after themselves and not look at the bigger picture of saving our sport. That’s why it’s going down the pan rapidly. And Glasgows business plan will amount to nothing. 

What successful business wants lose money.

ps

what is Glasgows business plan.Im not sure that you really know that one.🤔

[Phannan]

1 minute ago, Fromafar said:

What successful business wants lose money.

ps

what is Glasgows business plan.Im not sure that you really know that one.🤔

 No successful business wants to lose money. They want to thrive in a thriving industry. Which speedway isn’t and won’t be any time soon. No I don’t know their business plan but I know it won’t involve speedway long term. Nobody’s will. 

[M.D]

18 minutes ago, Phannan said:

If Glasgow and Poole were in the premiership then that would go a long way to making it more of a prestigious league. One that if they came out on top of, their ambitions would be possibly met. But I’m talking sporting ambitions, not just business ones with local derbies etc. I understand that businesses have to be profitable and sustainable, but therein lies the problem. Everyone is out to look after themselves and not look at the bigger picture of saving our sport. That’s why it’s going down the pan rapidly. And Glasgows business plan will amount to nothing. 

Every business should have its own business plan, but if the collective business model of the industry they work in is failing, then its going to fail despite their individual efforts.

[THE DEAN MACHINE]

For me what’s happening now is another missed opportunity just like in 2020 to reset the sport on a better path 

[Byker Biker]

5 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

For me what’s happening now is another missed opportunity just like in 2020 to reset the sport on a better path 

They're just not capable of it Dean

[THE DEAN MACHINE]

18 minutes ago, Byker Biker said:

They're just not capable of it Dean

I beginning to believe that to be true 

[THE DEAN MACHINE]

We can learn from Poland but we have got to stop trying to be or even compete with them 

[1 valve]

18 hours ago, Phannan said:

I can’t honestly say I have any faith in that lot improving anything in any amount of time really. 

By "that Lot" I presume you refer to the collective fourteen or so promoters responsible for putting on meetings in the UK? 
If so, there are a few who could be regarded as progressive, unfortunately the majority tend to be less selfless and insular to the wider and longer terms needs of the sport.   

[Phannan]

23 minutes ago, 1 valve said:

By "that Lot" I presume you refer to the collective fourteen or so promoters responsible for putting on meetings in the UK? 
If so, there are a few who could be regarded as progressive, unfortunately the majority tend to be less selfless and insular to the wider and longer terms needs of the sport.   

Couldn’t agree more with you. Until the sport is put before personal gain then it will always be in the state it’s in. Yes there will definitely be some of them that are pro active, though sadly not enough. 

[THE DEAN MACHINE]

I just can’t get my head around why the bspl are doing this and are so insistent on it,going against public opinion and presenting a bit of a joke of a concept that surely is going to do nothing but damage the popularity of the sport further, my gut tells me there is a gambling deal around the corner but if there isn’t I don’t know what to think. Also does the ACU have a code of care for one of its disciplines ? And could step in to stop these maniacs killing the sport 

Edited 15 hours ago by THE DEAN MACHINE

[PersonalResponsibility]

17 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

We can learn from Poland but we have got to stop trying to be or even compete with them 

There are similarities, for me, of going to watch basketball in this country. I sometimes go on a Friday night and watch a game and it's a great night out. Lots of entertainment, good atmosphere (even family friendly), and competitive action.

I'd never really considered it when I first start attending, but I genuinely have zero reference as to how good/bad these players are. I'm aware that it isn't the NBA, but otherwise it could be anywhere between the level below that and Sunday League. My mates tell me that apparently there's better basketball in Eastern Europe but I'm not bothered, I just enjoy a good night out.

This is not to say that British Basketball hasn't had its own issues, they've had more than enough. However, the clubs have taken some of the good stuff that the NBA does and applied it to their own product at the level they're at.

The best route for British speedway to take is something very similar. Work out what's best for British speedway and go from there. As you say, nothing wrong with picking up some things Poland does, but we won't outmuscle them on virtually any level.

Obviously, the kicker with taking this approach is you'd need a solid plan, the right ideas, some joined up thinking and to get the word out there. None of which I'd have faith in the current set of promoters to do.

[mikebv]

18 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

We can learn from Poland but we have got to stop trying to be or even compete with them 

I an sure something very similar was put on here around 10 years ago, and maybe longer....

Those running Speedway in the UK had a different idea, and, subsequently, used that different idea each season since.... 

Which hasn't ever included ploughing its own furrow, and being in charge of its own destiny, at whatever level initially it would have meant...

When it really should have....

 

[IainB]

1 hour ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

I just can’t get my head around why the bspl are doing this and are so insistent on it,going against public opinion and presenting a bit of a joke of a concept that surely is going to do nothing but damage the popularity of the sport further, my gut tells me there is a gambling deal around the corner but if there isn’t I don’t know what to think. Also does the ACU have a code of care for one of its disciplines ? And could step in to stop these maniacs killing the sport 

What would a "gambling deal" consist of though? There's no wide spread media exposure, that we know of, and there's only 14 venues for the sport and a many of them are in population back waters. It makes no commercial sense, in the current Speedway climate, that I can see, for a major betting company to be involved.

Edited 13 hours ago by IainB

[gjcone44]

some people think bingo is a great night out. 😁

[arnieg]

35 minutes ago, IainB said:

What would a "gambling deal" consist of though? There's no wide spread media exposure, that we know of, and there's only 14 venues for the sport and a many of them are in population back waters. It makes no commercial sense, in the current Speedway climate, that I can see, for a major betting company to be involved.

Are people in the gambling world looking at something to replace the revenue stream from greyhounds (which are down to 19 tracks in England and face the prospect of a total ban on the sport)

Edited 13 hours ago by arnieg

[IainB]

20 minutes ago, arnieg said:

Are people in the gambling world looking at something to replace the revenue stream from greyhounds (which are down to 19 tracks in England and face the prospect of a total ban on the sport)

It does seem more of a humane alternative

[YeOldPitGate]

22 minutes ago, IainB said:

It does seem more of a humane alternative

I'm having visions of a hare being installed on the inside of speedway tracks.